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VK1DW

Yamaha CM500

Does anyone know of a US store that will ship Yamaha CM 500 to an
international address, that is a country other than USA and Canada?

Deane
VK1DW
K3 3940

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Jim Brown-10

Re: Yamaha CM500

On 11/17/2010 10:41 PM, Deane Walkington wrote:
> Does anyone know of a US store that will ship Yamaha CM 500 to an
> international address, that is a country other than USA and Canada?

Is this part of Yamaha's product line not distributed in VK?

73, Jim K9YC
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Fabio Mantovani

Re: Yamaha CM500

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Hi Deane,
I found the link below... I too was interested in buying a CM500
headset, but it seems that it's not a product sold in Europe (I don't
know why indeed).

http://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/en/instrument/Clavinova/category/Accessories/product/1138381?currency=EUR

At the moment I didn't buy it because of the shipping costs which are
not competitive enough against other models and brands sold directly
here in EU.

Good luck,
Ciao
Fabio
IZ4AFW / NZ1W

Il 18/11/2010 7.41, Deane Walkington ha scritto:

> Does anyone know of a US store that will ship Yamaha CM 500 to an
> international address, that is a country other than USA and Canada?
>
> Deane
> VK1DW
> K3 3940
>
>
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Kevin Hibbs

Re: Yamaha CM500

In reply to this post by VK1DW

I got mine from B and H Photo in NYC. I believe they ship internationally.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/find/HelpCenter/Shipping.jsp

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/375558-REG/Yamaha_CM500_CM500_Headset_with.html

73,
Kevin
KG4TEI

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Deane Walkington
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Svend Spanget

Re: Yamaha CM500

Yeah - for 65$.....
73 de Svend, OZ7UV

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> Fra: Kevin Hibbs <[hidden email]>
> Til: Deane Walkington <[hidden email]>
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Dato: Tor, 18. nov 2010 12:50
> Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500
>
> I got mine from B and H Photo in NYC. I believe they ship
> internationally.
>
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/find/HelpCenter/Shipping.jsp
>
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/375558-REG/Yamaha_CM500_CM500_Headset_with.html
>
> 73,
> Kevin
> KG4TEI
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Deane Walkington
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a US store that will ship Yamaha CM 500 to an
> > international address, that is a country other than USA and Canada?
> >
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> > K3 3940
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Jon Kåre Hellan

Re: Yamaha CM500

On 11/18/2010 02:04 PM, Svend Spanget wrote:
> Yeah - for 65$.....
> 73 de Svend, OZ7UV

Is this really a U.S. only product, or does it just have a different name on the European
market?

>
> ----- Original meddelelse -----
>
>> Fra: Kevin Hibbs<[hidden email]>
>> Til: Deane Walkington<[hidden email]>
>> Cc: [hidden email]
>> Dato: Tor, 18. nov 2010 12:50
>> Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500
>>
>> I got mine from B and H Photo in NYC. I believe they ship
>> internationally.
>>
>> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/find/HelpCenter/Shipping.jsp
>>
>> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/375558-REG/Yamaha_CM500_CM500_Headset_with.html
>>
>> 73,
>> Kevin
>> KG4TEI
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Deane Walkington
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Does anyone know of a US store that will ship Yamaha CM 500 to an
>>> international address, that is a country other than USA and Canada?
>>>
>>> Deane
>>> VK1DW
>>> K3 3940
>>>
>>>
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Jim Brown-10

Re: Yamaha CM500

In reply to this post by Svend Spanget

On 11/18/2010 5:04 AM, Svend Spanget wrote:
> Yeah - for 65$.....
> 73 de Svend, OZ7UV
>

My XYL just bought $200 worth of fabric to use in her artists workshop
from a distributor in the UK. The selection was great and the prices
were good, but when she added the cost for shipping, customs, and 3% to
Mastercard, it was pretty close to what she would have paid from a US
vendor. The difference was selection -- the US vendor didn't have what
she wanted. She didn't save money, but she got what she wanted.

Manufacturers OFTEN play games with respect to what products they sell
where, apply multiple model numbers to the same product to allow certain
big retailers to get higher markups, etc. These decisions are based on
things like their whether they distribution and marketing for that sort
of product in a given region or country, the competition they will have
there, the tariffs, and whether they think the people in that region
want enough of their product for it to be profitable.

It costs a lot of money to sell in a different country from where goods
are manufactured, both because of trade costs, and because you've got to
have marketing and support in that country. It costs more to acquire an
Elecraft product outside the US, and it costs more to EU products (like
microphones from Sennheiser, Neumann, AKG, Beyer, and Schoeps) in the
US. Added to all of this is the matter of currency. I don't know, but I
suspect, that radios made in Japan are more expensive here than there.

73, Jim K9YC
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Olli Tuppurainen

Re: Yamaha CM500

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This is what B&H photo web shop is claiming if choose EU destination ( or at
least Finland )

" Due to the manufacturers restrictions, B&H Photo is unable to ship this
item to an international destination: We apologize for any inconvenience
this may have caused you. "

Olli
OH6CT

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Aihe: Re: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500

I got mine from B and H Photo in NYC. I believe they ship internationally.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/find/HelpCenter/Shipping.jsp

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/375558-REG/Yamaha_CM500_CM500_Headset_
with.html

73,
Kevin
KG4TEI

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Deane Walkington
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K6LMP

Re: Yamaha CM500

This looks like a situation in which the only means for members of this list to obtain one of these headsets (which I own and like very much!) is for a U.S. ham to buy it, have it shipped to his QTH, and then reship to an international QTH.

I am willing to undertake this effort, with no "handling fee", for anyone who wishes. Please contact me off list if you would like for me to get a CM500 for you, and we can work out details for payment in advance to me of the purchase cost, shipping cost to my QTH, and then my reshipping to overseas QTH. Postal shipment to European destinations would be about $24, perhaps $14 if it will fit in a small flat rate priority mail box (which I doubt). Purchase from B&H and cheapest-option US shipping is $44.39 plus $3.60 shipping, or about $48 (€34). The total cost thus would be about $72, or perhaps $62 with the small box, which would be about €50 or €43 at current exchange rates. Shipping costs will vary depending on method of international shipment chosen, etc. Paypal preferred for transfer of money.

73

Lew K6LMP

On Nov 18, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Olli Tuppurainen wrote:

> This is what B&H photo web shop is claiming if choose EU destination ( or at
> least Finland )
>
> " Due to the manufacturer’s restrictions, B&H Photo is unable to ship this
> item to an international destination: We apologize for any inconvenience
> this may have caused you. "
>
> Olli
> OH6CT
>
> -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
> Lähettäjä: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] Puolesta Kevin Hibbs
> Lähetetty: 18. marraskuuta 2010 13:51
> Vastaanottaja: Deane Walkington
> Kopio: [hidden email]
> Aihe: Re: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500
>
> I got mine from B and H Photo in NYC. I believe they ship internationally.
>
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/find/HelpCenter/Shipping.jsp
>
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/375558-REG/Yamaha_CM500_CM500_Headset_
> with.html
>
> 73,
> Kevin
> KG4TEI
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Deane Walkington
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Does anyone know of a US store that will ship Yamaha CM 500 to an
>> international address, that is a country other than USA and Canada?
>>
>> Deane
>> VK1DW
>> K3 3940
>>
>>
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roncasa

Re: Yamaha CM500

I don't mean to upset anyone,
but the name suggests a motorcycle.
If there are any bikers out there, you know what I mean. (smile)

Ron, wb1hga
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Jack Smith-6

Re: Yamaha CM500

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Lew

Don't forget that PayPal will take about 3% out of the payment.

Jack K8ZOA

On 11/18/2010 12:56 PM, Lew Phelps K6LMP wrote:

> This looks like a situation in which the only means for members of this list to obtain one of these headsets (which I own and like very much!) is for a U.S. ham to buy it, have it shipped to his QTH, and then reship to an international QTH.
>
> I am willing to undertake this effort, with no "handling fee", for anyone who wishes. Please contact me off list if you would like for me to get a CM500 for you, and we can work out details for payment in advance to me of the purchase cost, shipping cost to my QTH, and then my reshipping to overseas QTH. Postal shipment to European destinations would be about $24, perhaps $14 if it will fit in a small flat rate priority mail box (which I doubt). Purchase from B&H and cheapest-option US shipping is $44.39 plus $3.60 shipping, or about $48 (€34). The total cost thus would be about $72, or perhaps $62 with the small box, which would be about €50 or €43 at current exchange rates. Shipping costs will vary depending on method of international shipment chosen, etc. Paypal preferred for transfer of money.
>
> 73
>
> Lew K6LMP
>
>
> On Nov 18, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Olli Tuppurainen wrote:
>
>> This is what B&H photo web shop is claiming if choose EU destination ( or at
>> least Finland )
>>
>> " Due to the manufacturer’s restrictions, B&H Photo is unable to ship this
>> item to an international destination: We apologize for any inconvenience
>> this may have caused you. "
>>
>> Olli
>> OH6CT
>>
>> -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
>> Lähettäjä: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] Puolesta Kevin Hibbs
>> Lähetetty: 18. marraskuuta 2010 13:51
>> Vastaanottaja: Deane Walkington
>> Kopio: [hidden email]
>> Aihe: Re: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500
>>
>> I got mine from B and H Photo in NYC. I believe they ship internationally.
>>
>> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/find/HelpCenter/Shipping.jsp
>>
>> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/375558-REG/Yamaha_CM500_CM500_Headset_
>> with.html
>>
>> 73,
>> Kevin
>> KG4TEI
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Deane Walkington
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Does anyone know of a US store that will ship Yamaha CM 500 to an
>>> international address, that is a country other than USA and Canada?
>>>
>>> Deane
>>> VK1DW
>>> K3 3940
>>>
>>>
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Dave Hachadorian

Re: Yamaha CM500

In reply to this post by K6LMP

Rather than jumping through fiery hoops to get a CM500, I suggest
you try a local computer store, and find a comfortable
computer-type headset. These devices all use electret
microphones, and the K3 equalizer can make any of them sound
great.

For example, this one for $12 sounds great, but is not quite as
comfortable as the CM500:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826193029

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ

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AD4C2009

Re: Yamaha CM500

In reply to this post by K6LMP

That is what I did twice already for two hams in Europe,one in France and the other in Spain,at the end I think they ended up paying around $72 US and they are happy now.

AD4C

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--- On Thu, 11/18/10, Lew Phelps K6LMP <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Lew Phelps K6LMP <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
Date: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 5:56 PM

This looks like a situation in which the only means for members of this list to obtain one of these headsets (which I own and like very much!) is for a U.S. ham to buy it, have it shipped to his QTH, and then reship to an international QTH.

I am willing to undertake this effort, with no "handling fee", for anyone who wishes. Please contact me off list if you would like for me to get a CM500 for you, and we can work out details for payment in advance to me of the purchase cost, shipping cost to my QTH, and then my reshipping to overseas QTH. Postal shipment to European destinations would be about $24, perhaps $14 if it will fit in a small flat rate priority mail box (which I doubt). Purchase from B&H and cheapest-option US shipping is $44.39 plus $3.60 shipping, or about $48 (€34). The total cost thus would be about $72, or perhaps $62 with the small box, which would be about €50 or €43 at current exchange rates. Shipping costs will vary depending on method of international shipment chosen, etc. Paypal preferred for transfer of money.

73

Lew K6LMP

On Nov 18, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Olli Tuppurainen wrote:

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: Yamaha CM500

In reply to this post by Dave Hachadorian

> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826193029

That item is actually showing at $6.99 today (with $4.99 domestic
shipping).

If one is looking for an equivalent to the CM-500, this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826263020
even looks like the CM-500 for about 2/3 the B&H Photo price.

I also see other "name brand" Koss and Senheiser headsets for
less than $50 that are known for decent comfort/performance
while some of the "off brand" stuff looks like "plain box"
versions of the name product.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 11/18/2010 1:30 PM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:

> Rather than jumping through fiery hoops to get a CM500, I suggest
> you try a local computer store, and find a comfortable
> computer-type headset. These devices all use electret
> microphones, and the K3 equalizer can make any of them sound
> great.
>
> For example, this one for $12 sounds great, but is not quite as
> comfortable as the CM500:
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826193029
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> Yuma, AZ
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Jim Brown-10

Re: Yamaha CM500

YES! Dave and Joe have given you excellent advice. Thanks to the
flexibility of the K3's audio setup and EQ, almost any decent mic that
isn't broken can easily be made to sound great. In general, if it's an
electret mic, follow my instructions for the CM500 for both wiring and
setup, then get signal reports and tweak as needed. If it's a dynamic
mic, leave out the bias resistor.

It's best to buy where you can try it on if possible -- headphone
comfort is a big part of your satisfaction. Sennheiser is a very good
brand, and widely distributed, but I've never seen a low cost Sennheiser
boom mic headset. I've never liked Koss (and I've owned several pairs
over the years), but I've seen good reports recently on a Koss that's
similar to the CM500. About six years ago, I bought a half dozen
different Plantronics computer headsets at a hamfest that were a sales
sample kit. I think I paid $20 for all six. I made the needed cable
adapters to use them with my ham rigs. Every one of them sounded great,
but only a few comfortable enough to use for very long.

The main message here is that the Heil stuff is wildly over-rated,
over-advertised, and over-priced, and there's no good reason to spend
what it costs to buy it when you can get things that sound and feel as
good or better for a third the price.

73, Jim Brown K9YC

On 11/18/2010 12:00 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

> > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826193029
>
> That item is actually showing at $6.99 today (with $4.99 domestic
> shipping).
>
> If one is looking for an equivalent to the CM-500, this one:
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826263020
> even looks like the CM-500 for about 2/3 the B&H Photo price.
>
> I also see other "name brand" Koss and Senheiser headsets for
> less than $50 that are known for decent comfort/performance
> while some of the "off brand" stuff looks like "plain box"
> versions of the name product.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 11/18/2010 1:30 PM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:
>> Rather than jumping through fiery hoops to get a CM500, I suggest
>> you try a local computer store, and find a comfortable
>> computer-type headset. These devices all use electret
>> microphones, and the K3 equalizer can make any of them sound
>> great.
>>
>> For example, this one for $12 sounds great, but is not quite as
>> comfortable as the CM500:
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826193029
>>
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Re: Yamaha CM500

In reply to this post by Joe Subich, W4TV-4

KOSS is a very good brand of audio gears but where the specs?

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--- On Thu, 11/18/10, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 8:00 PM

> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826193029

That item is actually showing at $6.99 today (with $4.99 domestic
shipping).

If one is looking for an equivalent to the CM-500, this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826263020
even looks like the CM-500 for about 2/3 the B&H Photo price.

I also see other "name brand" Koss and Senheiser headsets for
less than $50 that are known for decent comfort/performance
while some of the "off brand" stuff looks like "plain box"
versions of the name product.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 11/18/2010 1:30 PM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:

Lu Romero - W4LT

Re: Yamaha CM500

In reply to this post by VK1DW

All:

I have the Koss headset that Joe W4TV illustrates from New Egg. It cost me
$23 last year from Full Compass (Yet another headset? But it was on Sale!
I couldn't resist!). Mine is labeled "SB-40". Its absolutely and EXACTLY
IDENTICAL to my CM-500, in every detail, except for one important thing.
The mic capsule. The mic capsule on this headset is dynamic and is absolute
and pure junk.

However.

A Heil capsule and holder from the BM series of headsets fits PERFECTLY on
the end of this headset's flexible boom.

I have several old BM-5 and BM-10 headsets in my junk box. I love them.
Light and comfortable, you can forget you're wearing a headset. But they
are notorious for breaking the little plastic clip that holds the metal boom
on the headset, and the open air design, while extremely comfortable,
doesn't lend itself to noisy SSB multi op environments...

So in search of a solution, I took a close look at the Koss headset and
found that its a simple matter to remove two screws from the mic holder on
the end of the boom and it comes right off, leaving the capsule dangling on
two wires!

Unsolder the Koss mic capsule. Place it right in the garbage can...

Unscrew the pop screen, unsolder the capsule and then remove the capsule
holder from the metal tube boom of an old Heil BM-5/10 headset by gently
twisting it off of the tube. With a Dremmel tool, widen the BM-5/10 mic
holder's boom hole a little bit so it fits snugly on the Koss boom (add some
epoxy if you feel safer with gluing it on, I don't, what if it cracks?).
Then, slide a 1/2 inch of shrink tube on to the Koss boom and install the
Heil holder, thread the wires through, and heat the shrink tube to hold the
Heil capsule holder onto the flexible boom (and make it replaceable by
cutting the shrink tube off with a xacto knife if you need to later).
Finally, solder your choice of Heil capsule (in my case, a DX-4) onto the
wires. Replace the pop filter by screwing it back on.

PRESTO!

A very comfortable, rugged, closed ear headset that seals sound out,
suitable for use in multi op environments! Yamaha CM-500 comfort for use on
TenTec Orions when I travel to NQ4I, where my CM500 does not work!

Solved my problem!

-Lu-w4lt-
K3 # 3182

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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:00:19 -0500
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500
To: [hidden email]
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826193029

That item is actually showing at $6.99 today (with $4.99 domestic
shipping).

If one is looking for an equivalent to the CM-500, this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826263020
even looks like the CM-500 for about 2/3 the B&H Photo price.

I also see other "name brand" Koss and Senheiser headsets for
less than $50 that are known for decent comfort/performance
while some of the "off brand" stuff looks like "plain box"
versions of the name product.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

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Re: Yamaha CM500

On 11/19/2010 5:48 AM, Luis V. Romero wrote:
> when I travel to NQ4I, where my CM500 does not work!

Lu -- thanks for the detailed rundown on the Koss unit.

I don't know what radios are at NQ4I, but I'm headed to PJ4 for CQWWCW,
where FT1000MPs are used. Before and after the contest, I may want to
work SSB, so I made a simple connector adapter for my CM500 mic (8-pin
mic plug, one resistor, short length of coax, to female TRS 1/8-in
jack). Last night, I checked it out with the MP that's still in my
closet as a backup rig. I had to turn down the mic gain a LOT, but K6XX
tells me that it sounds fine.

The resistor goes from the 8VDC pin on the mic connector to the MIC hot
pin on the connector. I think I used 4.7K or 6.8K. Any value in that
range is fine.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: Yamaha CM500

Jim,

This will get the CM-500 in the right range:

Yaesu CM-500
5.6K
2 -----------^^^^^-------+-------> RING
|
8 -----+--------)|-------+-------> Tip
| .047 uF
\
/
\ 560
/
|
5,7 ----+--------------------------> Sleeve

The .047 uF and 560 Ohm should bring down the drive level to
something more appropriate for the Yaesu rigs (17 dB at 1 KHz)
*and* provide a low frequency roll-off to help with the excessive
bass in the "raw" CM-500.

Lu, the same connections should work with both Yaesu and Orion II.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 11/19/2010 2:15 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

> On 11/19/2010 5:48 AM, Luis V. Romero wrote:
>> when I travel to NQ4I, where my CM500 does not work!
>
> Lu -- thanks for the detailed rundown on the Koss unit.
>
> I don't know what radios are at NQ4I, but I'm headed to PJ4 for CQWWCW,
> where FT1000MPs are used. Before and after the contest, I may want to
> work SSB, so I made a simple connector adapter for my CM500 mic (8-pin
> mic plug, one resistor, short length of coax, to female TRS 1/8-in
> jack). Last night, I checked it out with the MP that's still in my
> closet as a backup rig. I had to turn down the mic gain a LOT, but K6XX
> tells me that it sounds fine.
>
> The resistor goes from the 8VDC pin on the mic connector to the MIC hot
> pin on the connector. I think I used 4.7K or 6.8K. Any value in that
> range is fine.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
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Lu Romero - W4LT

Re: Yamaha CM500

In reply to this post by VK1DW

No problem, Jim:

Its not that I cant make the Electret CM-500 work on the Orions at NQ4I (I
have the bias box), its just that the mic sounds really bad on that rig, no
matter what I try to do with the rig's EQ, or what little EQ capability is
in the rig (They are Orion 1's). These Orions are really bassy. I have
diddled with the carrier shift and transmit bandpass and have gotten the
rigs to sound pretty good, but there is still a lot of difference between
the radios (there are 8 of them), even with the same exact settings.

I have been "volunteered" as the audio guy up there. Of all the mics we
have tried (and we have tried a lot of them), These Orion 1's seems to
really like the DX4 capsule. Recently, Rick has begun installing W2IHY EQ
Pus units, and these seem to make the Orions sound quite good. The IHY
compressor is leagues ahead of the TenTec internal processor. This along
with some transmit bandwidth contouring has really "unmuddied" the stations.
There are EQ Plus units on 20 run and 40 run now, with 80 run coming soon,
then 15 run.

I will keep that circuit in mind for other uses, maybe with an Icom 7700.

-lu-w4lt
K3 # 3192

Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 11:15:02 -0800
From: Jim Brown <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500
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On 11/19/2010 5:48 AM, Luis V. Romero wrote:
> when I travel to NQ4I, where my CM500 does not work!

Lu -- thanks for the detailed rundown on the Koss unit.

I don't know what radios are at NQ4I, but I'm headed to PJ4 for CQWWCW,
where FT1000MPs are used. Before and after the contest, I may want to
work SSB, so I made a simple connector adapter for my CM500 mic (8-pin
mic plug, one resistor, short length of coax, to female TRS 1/8-in
jack). Last night, I checked it out with the MP that's still in my
closet as a backup rig. I had to turn down the mic gain a LOT, but K6XX
tells me that it sounds fine.

The resistor goes from the 8VDC pin on the mic connector to the MIC hot
pin on the connector. I think I used 4.7K or 6.8K. Any value in that
range is fine.

73, Jim K9YC

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