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CX7TT

Year vs serial number

My K3s serial number is 10599 (somebody at Elecraft must have known the only signal reports I get in contests) HA!

Would the number correspond to manufacture in 2016 or 2017? Factory assembled.

73 y Merry Christmas

Tom
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kc8wh.mh

Re: Year vs serial number

TomMy K3s is serial number 11029. Factory built. I bought it in November of 2016.Hope that helps.73Mike KC8WHSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: [hidden email] Date: 12/21/20 1:23 AM (GMT-05:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Year vs serial number My K3s serial number is 10599 (somebody at Elecraft must have known the only signal reports I get in contests) HA!Would the number correspond to manufacture in 2016 or 2017? Factory assembled.73 y Merry ChristmasTomHP1XTK2GO______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:[hidden email] list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to [hidden email]
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Steve Boles

Re: Year vs serial number

Very interesting...
My serial number is 11,712 and I purchased my K3s September 4th, 2018 -
factory assembled... Steve
ARS: W4SB //

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 7:54 AM kc8wh.mh <[hidden email]> wrote:

> TomMy K3s is serial number 11029. Factory built. I bought it in November
> of 2016.Hope that helps.73Mike KC8WHSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy
> smartphone
> -------- Original message --------From: [hidden email] Date: 12/21/20
> 1:23 AM (GMT-05:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft]
> Year vs serial number My K3s serial number is 10599 (somebody at Elecraft
> must have known the only signal reports I get in contests) HA!Would the
> number correspond to manufacture in 2016 or 2017? Factory assembled.73 y
> Merry
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Kimo Chun

Re: Year vs serial number

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Just as an exercise, since my K3S s/ 11727 shipped 9/24/2018 (though I
purchased it later from the original buyer), I estimate they were averaging
somewhere around 1 K3S shipped per day from November 2016 and September
2018.

11712 + 15 = 11727 (20 days later). So maybe 25 or more per month?

11712 - 11029 = 683 units between Nov 2016 and Sept 4, 2018 (669 days).
This assumes 11029 was shipped Nov 4, 2016.
So it is possible the 1 per day or a bit more is within the realm of
possibility between those dates.

So 11029 - 10599 = 430. 430 days before is Sept 1, 2015. Naturally, their
production and shipping would be in spurts and would ramp up from early
release to full production (minus stoppages and weekends/holidays, etc.).
So it just gives you a very rough idea on how many they may have sold. When
were the first K3S's shipped?

Besides, I imagine you could call Elecraft with your serial number and they
could tell you when it first shipped.

Regarding shipping to HI/AK/PR: What irks me is how people get free
shipping in the upper 48 but almost never do we in Hawaii get offered a
discount on the shipping of the difference between the two. We pay full
pop. I've pointed it out to some vendors but never get a reply.
Discrimination? Lazy? Stupid marketers along with incompetent site POS
programmers? Or, likely, our business volume just doesn't merit any
consideration (see previous descriptions).

Vendors who promote that on their sites would get my business and
recommendation.

73, Kimo KH7U (on vacation so I can waste time on things like this)

Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 19:23:24 -0500
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Very interesting...
My serial number is 11,712 and I purchased my K3s September 4th, 2018 -
factory assembled... Steve
ARS: W4SB //

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M0XDF

Re: Year vs serial number

People appear to have forgotton the Elecraft Owners Database - http://www.zerobeat.net/cgi-bin/k2data/db.cgi <http://www.zerobeat.net/cgi-bin/k2data/db.cgi>

Lots of Serial numbers here.

73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)

The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. -- Albert Einstein

> On 23 Dec 2020, at 21:42, Kimo Chun <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Just as an exercise, since my K3S s/ 11727 shipped 9/24/2018 (though I
> purchased it later from the original buyer), I estimate they were averaging
> somewhere around 1 K3S shipped per day from November 2016 and September
> 2018.
>
> 11712 + 15 = 11727 (20 days later). So maybe 25 or more per month?
>
> 11712 - 11029 = 683 units between Nov 2016 and Sept 4, 2018 (669 days).
> This assumes 11029 was shipped Nov 4, 2016.
> So it is possible the 1 per day or a bit more is within the realm of
> possibility between those dates.
>
> So 11029 - 10599 = 430. 430 days before is Sept 1, 2015. Naturally, their
> production and shipping would be in spurts and would ramp up from early
> release to full production (minus stoppages and weekends/holidays, etc.).
> So it just gives you a very rough idea on how many they may have sold. When
> were the first K3S's shipped?
>
> Besides, I imagine you could call Elecraft with your serial number and they
> could tell you when it first shipped.
>
> Regarding shipping to HI/AK/PR: What irks me is how people get free
> shipping in the upper 48 but almost never do we in Hawaii get offered a
> discount on the shipping of the difference between the two. We pay full
> pop. I've pointed it out to some vendors but never get a reply.
> Discrimination? Lazy? Stupid marketers along with incompetent site POS
> programmers? Or, likely, our business volume just doesn't merit any
> consideration (see previous descriptions).
>
> Vendors who promote that on their sites would get my business and
> recommendation.
>
> 73, Kimo KH7U (on vacation so I can waste time on things like this)
>
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 19:23:24 -0500
> From: Steve Boles <[hidden email]>
> To: "kc8wh.mh" <[hidden email]>
> Cc: [hidden email], [hidden email]
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>
> Very interesting...
> My serial number is 11,712 and I purchased my K3s September 4th, 2018 -
> factory assembled... Steve
> ARS: W4SB //
>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 7:54 AM kc8wh.mh <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> TomMy K3s is serial number 11029. Factory built. I bought it in November
>> of 2016.Hope that helps.73Mike KC8WHSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy
>> smartphone
>> -------- Original message --------From: [hidden email] Date: 12/21/20
>> 1:23 AM (GMT-05:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft]
>> Year vs serial number My K3s serial number is 10599 (somebody at Elecraft
>> must have known the only signal reports I get in contests) HA!Would the
>> number correspond to manufacture in 2016 or 2017? Factory assembled.73 y
>> Merry
>> ChristmasTomHP1XTK2GO_______________________________________
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Don Wilhelm

Re: Genius vs. Stupidity

I really like that quote from Albert Einstein.
Ignorance can be cured with information, but stupidity lives on in its
dismissal of facts and information.

Merry Christmas all, stay safe.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/23/2020 7:12 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:

>
> The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. -- Albert Einstein
>
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David Bunte

Re: Genius vs. Stupidity

Don -

I also like that quote... sadly there is no credible evidence that Albert
Einstein ever said or wrote that. There is evidence that it is
significantly older.

73 es Happy Holidays de Dave - K9FN

On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 7:37 PM Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I really like that quote from Albert Einstein.
> Ignorance can be cured with information, but stupidity lives on in its
> dismissal of facts and information.
>
> Merry Christmas all, stay safe.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 12/23/2020 7:12 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
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> >
> > The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its
> limits. -- Albert Einstein
> >
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Jim Sheldon

Re: Genius vs. Stupidity

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Don, I usually don’t chime in on these things but I had to throw in my 2 cents worth on this one.

I added a line to another popular saying, “You can’t fix Stupid”. I added, “Neither can you legislate intelligence”.

Sort of appropriate for 2020, LOL.

Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and hopes for a better 2021 to come.

Jim, W0EB

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 23, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I really like that quote from Albert Einstein.
> Ignorance can be cured with information, but stupidity lives on in its dismissal of facts and information.
>
> Merry Christmas all, stay safe.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>> On 12/23/2020 7:12 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
>>
>> The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. -- Albert Einstein
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Joe K2UF

Re: Genius vs. Stupidity

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Duct tape can not fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound. ;o)>

Merry Christmas to all,

73 Joe K2UF

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I really like that quote from Albert Einstein.
Ignorance can be cured with information, but stupidity lives on in its
dismissal of facts and information.

Merry Christmas all, stay safe.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/23/2020 7:12 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:

>
> The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its
> limits. -- Albert Einstein
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Phil Kane-2

Re: Genius vs. Stupidity

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On 12/23/2020 4:35 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> I really like that quote from Albert Einstein.

> Ignorance can be cured with information, but stupidity lives on in its
> dismissal of facts and information.

My favorite quote from Einstein that he never said is:

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results."

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon

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k6mrmagnet

Re: Genius vs. Stupidity

Einstein had a whole bunch of great quotes:

“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

Ken K6MR

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On 12/23/2020 4:35 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> I really like that quote from Albert Einstein.

> Ignorance can be cured with information, but stupidity lives on in its
> dismissal of facts and information.

My favorite quote from Einstein that he never said is:

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results."

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon

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Adrian-3

Re: Genius vs. Stupidity

Hams must be insane then.. We keep putting out calls on the same gear, and
keep getting different results as expected.

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> Einstein had a whole bunch of great quotes:
>
> “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm
> not sure about the former."
>
> Ken K6MR
>
> From: Phil Kane<mailto:[hidden email]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 19:57
> To: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Genius vs. Stupidity
>
> On 12/23/2020 4:35 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
> > I really like that quote from Albert Einstein.
>
> > Ignorance can be cured with information, but stupidity lives on in its
> > dismissal of facts and information.
>
> My favorite quote from Einstein that he never said is:
>
> "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
> different results."
>
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402
>
> From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: Genius vs. Stupidity

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Another good one:
"It's not what you don't know that's the problem, it's what you're sure
about that ain't so."

On 12/24/2020 03:56 AM, Phil Kane wrote:

> On 12/23/2020 4:35 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
>> I really like that quote from Albert Einstein.
>
>> Ignorance can be cured with information, but stupidity lives on in its
>> dismissal of facts and information.
>
> My favorite quote from Einstein that he never said is:
>
> "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
> different results."
>
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402
>
> From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: Genius vs. Stupidity

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Something like the following was attributed to Albert:

“There is a question that makes me hazy,
Is it you, or I, that is crazy?

I worked at a DOE research lab many years ago for someone who met and spoke with Einstein. My boss asserted that, after talking to Einstein, he knew who was crazy. Never told me who, though. . .

Keeping Watch-
shu

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Clay Autery-2

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MANY higher-intelligence folks APPEAR to be "insane" to other folks
falling higher up on the bell curve.
I am in no way anywhere nearly as intelligent as the Professor, but have
had any number of encounters in my 57 years where either the "look" or
the actual words from the person with whom I was interacting clearly
communicated that they thought I was "insane".

"I'm not crazy; my mother had me tested!" - Sheldon Cooper, Big Bang
Theory <big smile>

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On 12/25/20 17:28, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote:

> Something like the following was attributed to Albert:
>
> “There is a question that makes me hazy,
> Is it you, or I, that is crazy?
>
> I worked at a DOE research lab many years ago for someone who met and spoke with Einstein. My boss asserted that, after talking to Einstein, he knew who was crazy. Never told me who, though. . .
>
> Keeping Watch-
> shu
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It all depends on where you are on the curve.

On Friday, December 25, 2020, 07:11:43 PM EST, Clay Autery <[hidden email]> wrote:

MANY higher-intelligence folks APPEAR to be "insane" to other folks
falling higher up on the bell curve.
I am in no way anywhere nearly as intelligent as the Professor, but have
had any number of encounters in my 57 years where either the "look" or
the actual words from the person with whom I was interacting clearly
communicated that they thought I was "insane".

"I'm not crazy; my mother had me tested!" - Sheldon Cooper, Big Bang
Theory <big smile>

______________________
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(318) 518-1389

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k6dgw

Re: Genius vs. Stupidity

Actually, it all depends on who gets to draw the curve

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 12/25/2020 4:21 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

> It all depends on where you are on the curve.
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, December 25, 2020, 07:11:43 PM EST, Clay Autery <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> MANY higher-intelligence folks APPEAR to be "insane" to other folks
> falling higher up on the bell curve.
> I am in no way anywhere nearly as intelligent as the Professor, but have
> had any number of encounters in my 57 years where either the "look" or
> the actual words from the person with whom I was interacting clearly
> communicated that they thought I was "insane".
>
> "I'm not crazy; my mother had me tested!" - Sheldon Cooper, Big Bang
> Theory <big smile>
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> (318) 518-1389
>

Wes Stewart-2

Re: Genius vs. Stupidity

If you were woke, you'd know that the bell curve is racist.

Wes N7WS

On 12/25/2020 5:57 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

> Actually, it all depends on who gets to draw the curve
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> On 12/25/2020 4:21 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>> It all depends on where you are on the curve.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 25, 2020, 07:11:43 PM EST, Clay Autery
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> MANY higher-intelligence folks APPEAR to be "insane" to other folks
>> falling higher up on the bell curve.
>> I am in no way anywhere nearly as intelligent as the Professor, but have
>> had any number of encounters in my 57 years where either the "look" or
>> the actual words from the person with whom I was interacting clearly
>> communicated that they thought I was "insane".
>>
>> "I'm not crazy; my mother had me tested!" - Sheldon Cooper, Big Bang
>> Theory <big smile>
>>
>> ______________________
>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>> (318) 518-1389

Alan - G4GNX

Re: Genius vs. Stupidity

Oh God, please don't let us degenerate to this on a Ham Radio group.

73,

Alan. G4GNX

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>If you were woke, you'd know that the bell curve is racist.
>
>Wes N7WS
>
>On 12/25/2020 5:57 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>>Actually, it all depends on who gets to draw the curve
>>
>>73,
>>
>>Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>>Sparks NV DM09dn
>>Washoe County
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>>On 12/25/2020 4:21 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>>> It all depends on where you are on the curve.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 25, 2020, 07:11:43 PM EST, Clay Autery <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> MANY higher-intelligence folks APPEAR to be "insane" to other folks
>>>falling higher up on the bell curve.
>>>I am in no way anywhere nearly as intelligent as the Professor, but have
>>>had any number of encounters in my 57 years where either the "look" or
>>>the actual words from the person with whom I was interacting clearly
>>>communicated that they thought I was "insane".
>>>
>>>"I'm not crazy; my mother had me tested!" - Sheldon Cooper, Big Bang
>>>Theory <big smile>
>>>
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>>>(318) 518-1389
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Re: Genius vs. Stupidity

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LOL!!!

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On 12/25/20 19:17, Wes wrote:
> If you were woke, you'd know that the bell curve is racist.
>
> Wes N7WS
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