Zero-beating a KX1
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I recently obtained a KX1, which I am delighted with it. However, I haven’t found a way to zero-beat a signal other than to go to the menu to listen to the sidetone, memorize it and then return to the VFO. I found a faster way to to that, but it is still just memorizing and going back and forth. Is there a better way to zero-beat? For those of us who don’t have perfect pitch? :-)
Kelly AJ6KZ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Kelly,
If you do not have perfect pitch, then what you are doing is one way. Another way would be to build a tone generator for your preferred sidetone pitch and use that. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/7/2020 5:00 PM, Kelly Breed wrote: > I recently obtained a KX1, which I am delighted with it. However, I haven’t found a way to zero-beat a signal other than to go to the menu to listen to the sidetone, memorize it and then return to the VFO. I found a faster way to to that, but it is still just memorizing and going back and forth. Is there a better way to zero-beat? For those of us who don’t have perfect pitch? :-) ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I believe the only way is to match the pitch to the sidetone pitch,
Kelly. At least I never found another way during all the time I had my KX1. The KX1 is a really nifty little package, no? I finally sold mine when injuries from adventures in my 20's coupled with the accumulated birthdays began to limit what I could do in the field. I use my K2, battery, and solar charger now since I never get very far from the truck. I also found that zero beat was overrated. "Close enough" seems to be "good enough." 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 6/7/2020 2:00 PM, Kelly Breed wrote: > I recently obtained a KX1, which I am delighted with it. However, I haven’t found a way to zero-beat a signal other than to go to the menu to listen to the sidetone, memorize it and then return to the VFO. I found a faster way to to that, but it is still just memorizing and going back and forth. Is there a better way to zero-beat? For those of us who don’t have perfect pitch? :-) > > Kelly > AJ6KZ > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Thank you, Don!
The idea was not to have more pieces of equipment, so I’ll continue the way I have been. It was nice to confirm that there is no better built-in way to do it. 73, Kelly AJ6KZ > On Jun 7, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Kelly, > > If you do not have perfect pitch, then what you are doing is one way. Another way would be to build a tone generator for your preferred sidetone pitch and use that. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/7/2020 5:00 PM, Kelly Breed wrote: >> I recently obtained a KX1, which I am delighted with it. However, I haven’t found a way to zero-beat a signal other than to go to the menu to listen to the sidetone, memorize it and then return to the VFO. I found a faster way to to that, but it is still just memorizing and going back and forth. Is there a better way to zero-beat? For those of us who don’t have perfect pitch? :-) ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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There once was a nifty CW tuning aid board available for the K1 which I wish I had built but never did. A web search didn't turn it up but this link came up with, I think, the same basic circuit: [ http://www.n5ese.com/zerobeat.htm ]( http://www.n5ese.com/zerobeat.htm ) 72, Brian, K0DTJ -----Original Message----- From: "Kelly Breed" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 16:27 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Zero-beating a KX1 Thank you, Don! The idea was not to have more pieces of equipment, so I’ll continue the way I have been. It was nice to confirm that there is no better built-in way to do it. 73, Kelly AJ6KZ > On Jun 7, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Kelly, > > If you do not have perfect pitch, then what you are doing is one way. Another way would be to build a tone generator for your preferred sidetone pitch and use that. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/7/2020 5:00 PM, Kelly Breed wrote: >> I recently obtained a KX1, which I am delighted with it. However, I haven’t found a way to zero-beat a signal other than to go to the menu to listen to the sidetone, memorize it and then return to the VFO. I found a faster way to to that, but it is still just memorizing and going back and forth. Is there a better way to zero-beat? For those of us who don’t have perfect pitch? :-) ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Ref the linked article - "you slowly tune the received signal until it reaches the magic tone that means "zero-beat". Usually, this is the same tone as your CW sidetone, 500-800 Hz, depending on your rig. You need a good ear for pitch." Has everyone forgotten what to "zero beat" means or is it simply that the term has become so abused that it means something different now. Zero beat used to mean to shift the frequency of one signal relative to the frequency of another signal until the audible beat frequency reduced to zero. In those olden days, using an AM receiver to receive CW, the technique I remember was to set the BFO (Beat frequency Oscillator) to zero offset, tune the signal for zero beat, then adjust the BFO offset for desired pitch. How can tuning a single frequency to desired pitch be zero beating. There is no beat frequency to zero. Andy, k3wyc ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I installed a N0SS (much missed silent key)
zero beat indicator, works excellent. I put one in my K1 and K2 also. leroy AB7CE -----Original Message----- From: Kelly Breed Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2020 3:00 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Zero-beating a KX1 I recently obtained a KX1, which I am delighted with it. However, I haven’t found a way to zero-beat a signal other than to go to the menu to listen to the sidetone, memorize it and then return to the VFO. I found a faster way to to that, but it is still just memorizing and going back and forth. Is there a better way to zero-beat? For those of us who don’t have perfect pitch? :-) Kelly AJ6KZ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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