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Chris Tate - N6WM
I have installed a number of W2 watt meters in a large contest station in the bay area.  In general this has worked out real well, but now that I am setting up a second SO2R position I need to ask if anyone has either written some software or if it is at all possible to


1.        Observe data from both sensor 1 and 2 at the same time

2.       Switch without manual intervention (pressing the button) between sensor 1 and 2.

If anyone has an intuitive solution to this so I don't have to move to 2 physical watt meters it would be great.

Apologies if this has been discussed at some point in the past.


Thanks
Chris
N6WM
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Re: and now something completely different.. the w2

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1. Not possible. The two sensors feed into an electronic switch that
connects one sensor at a time to the microprocessor/LED bargraph display.

2. See the "W2 Owners Manual Rev D2", available on the Elecraft website.
On page 5, "Important note" #5, it describes how to put the W2 into
"search" mode. The W2 will automatically connect to the sensor getting
RF. I wouldn't recommend allowing *both* sensors to be hot; CW or SSB
will cause the sensors to switch rapidly and the resulting display would
be meaningless.

73,
Brian, W6FVI

On 2/23/2016 7:18 AM, Chris Tate - N6WM wrote:

> I have installed a number of W2 watt meters in a large contest station in the bay area.  In general this has worked out real well, but now that I am setting up a second SO2R position I need to ask if anyone has either written some software or if it is at all possible to
>
>
> 1.        Observe data from both sensor 1 and 2 at the same time
>
> 2.       Switch without manual intervention (pressing the button) between sensor 1 and 2.
>
> If anyone has an intuitive solution to this so I don't have to move to 2 physical watt meters it would be great.
>
> Apologies if this has been discussed at some point in the past.
>
>
> Thanks
> Chris
> N6WM
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Chris Tate - N6WM
Thanks Brian and thanks to Jack W6 F ine B usiness for getting back to me as well.. I think I am on the path to a solution.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 2:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] and now something completely different.. the w2

1. Not possible. The two sensors feed into an electronic switch that connects one sensor at a time to the microprocessor/LED bargraph display.

2. See the "W2 Owners Manual Rev D2", available on the Elecraft website.
On page 5, "Important note" #5, it describes how to put the W2 into "search" mode. The W2 will automatically connect to the sensor getting RF. I wouldn't recommend allowing *both* sensors to be hot; CW or SSB will cause the sensors to switch rapidly and the resulting display would be meaningless.

73,
Brian, W6FVI

On 2/23/2016 7:18 AM, Chris Tate - N6WM wrote:

> I have installed a number of W2 watt meters in a large contest station in the bay area.  In general this has worked out real well, but now that I am setting up a second SO2R position I need to ask if anyone has either written some software or if it is at all possible to
>
>
> 1.        Observe data from both sensor 1 and 2 at the same time
>
> 2.       Switch without manual intervention (pressing the button) between sensor 1 and 2.
>
> If anyone has an intuitive solution to this so I don't have to move to 2 physical watt meters it would be great.
>
> Apologies if this has been discussed at some point in the past.
>
>
> Thanks
> Chris
> N6WM
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Re: and now something completely different.. the w2

Dave G3WGN M6O
Chris, please let us know the 'how to' when you have it up and running.
73 David G3WGN  M6O  WJ6O

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Chris Tate - N6WM wrote
Thanks Brian and thanks to Jack W6 F ine B usiness for getting back to me as well.. I think I am on the path to a solution.

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Brian & Cyndi
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 2:57 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] and now something completely different.. the w2

1. Not possible. The two sensors feed into an electronic switch that connects one sensor at a time to the microprocessor/LED bargraph display.

2. See the "W2 Owners Manual Rev D2", available on the Elecraft website.
On page 5, "Important note" #5, it describes how to put the W2 into "search" mode. The W2 will automatically connect to the sensor getting RF. I wouldn't recommend allowing *both* sensors to be hot; CW or SSB will cause the sensors to switch rapidly and the resulting display would be meaningless.

73,
Brian, W6FVI

On 2/23/2016 7:18 AM, Chris Tate - N6WM wrote:
> I have installed a number of W2 watt meters in a large contest station in the bay area.  In general this has worked out real well, but now that I am setting up a second SO2R position I need to ask if anyone has either written some software or if it is at all possible to
>
>
> 1.        Observe data from both sensor 1 and 2 at the same time
>
> 2.       Switch without manual intervention (pressing the button) between sensor 1 and 2.
>
> If anyone has an intuitive solution to this so I don't have to move to 2 physical watt meters it would be great.
>
> Apologies if this has been discussed at some point in the past.
>
>
> Thanks
> Chris
> N6WM
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Re: and now something completely different.. the w2

Chris Tate - N6WM
Hi Dave hope all is well, haven't seen you for quite a while now.


It works.. and the magic answer was... drum roll

See the "W2 Owners Manual Rev D2", available on the Elecraft website.
> On page 5, "Important note" #5, it describes how to put the W2 into
> "search" mode. The W2 will automatically connect to the sensor getting RF.
> I wouldn't recommend allowing *both* sensors to be hot; CW or SSB will
> cause the sensors to switch rapidly and the resulting display would be
> meaningless.

The important note # 5 I overlooked during manual scanning..  a bit obscure I personally would probably promote that to a section in the manual called dual sensor operation.   JM2C

When you are using 1 meter with 2 antennas and have installed both sensors, hold down the sensor button and that puts the sensors into a polling mode.  It is reflected by a rapid flickering of both sensor lights.  Then the software and meter will reflect the RF to the sensor currently being transmitted.

The flickering lights are a bit.. err.  much.. but it all works FB.  Just down drive RF through both sensors at the same time or it will confuse the electronics and not display useful info.  I

Again thanks to the W6FVI and W6FB for your help and G3WGN/M6O for your calls and pointing to us 6 landers!


All good.

~Chris
N6WM


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Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 3:51 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] and now something completely different.. the w2

Chris, please let us know the 'how to' when you have it up and running.
73 David G3WGN  M6O  WJ6O

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Chris Tate - N6WM wrote
> Thanks Brian and thanks to Jack W6 F ine B usiness for getting back to
> me as well.. I think I am on the path to a solution.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:

> elecraft-bounces@.qth

> ] On Behalf Of Brian & Cyndi
> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 2:57 PM
> To:

> elecraft@.qth

> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] and now something completely different.. the
> w2
>
> 1. Not possible. The two sensors feed into an electronic switch that
> connects one sensor at a time to the microprocessor/LED bargraph display.
>
> 2. See the "W2 Owners Manual Rev D2", available on the Elecraft website.
> On page 5, "Important note" #5, it describes how to put the W2 into
> "search" mode. The W2 will automatically connect to the sensor getting RF.
> I wouldn't recommend allowing *both* sensors to be hot; CW or SSB will
> cause the sensors to switch rapidly and the resulting display would be
> meaningless.
>
> 73,
> Brian, W6FVI
>
> On 2/23/2016 7:18 AM, Chris Tate - N6WM wrote:
>> I have installed a number of W2 watt meters in a large contest
>> station in the bay area.  In general this has worked out real well,
>> but now that I am setting up a second SO2R position I need to ask if
>> anyone has either written some software or if it is at all possible
>> to
>>
>>
>> 1.        Observe data from both sensor 1 and 2 at the same time
>>
>> 2.       Switch without manual intervention (pressing the button) between
>> sensor 1 and 2.
>>
>> If anyone has an intuitive solution to this so I don't have to move
>> to 2 physical watt meters it would be great.
>>
>> Apologies if this has been discussed at some point in the past.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Chris
>> N6WM
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Re: and now something completely different.. the w2

Chris Tate - N6WM
Oh one more thing, this of course means that you cannot have both in the same antenna chain in this mode.. the big case for this being if you wanted an inboard low power sensor, and an outboard high power sensor.  This is not possible with the W2 and you would need 2 wattmeters. But it works for 2 antenna SO2R.  Perhaps with a W3? ;-) ;-)

~C./WM

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Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 4:21 PM
To: Dave G3WGN M6O <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] and now something completely different.. the w2

Hi Dave hope all is well, haven't seen you for quite a while now.


It works.. and the magic answer was... drum roll

See the "W2 Owners Manual Rev D2", available on the Elecraft website.
> On page 5, "Important note" #5, it describes how to put the W2 into
> "search" mode. The W2 will automatically connect to the sensor getting RF.
> I wouldn't recommend allowing *both* sensors to be hot; CW or SSB will
> cause the sensors to switch rapidly and the resulting display would be
> meaningless.

The important note # 5 I overlooked during manual scanning..  a bit obscure I personally would probably promote that to a section in the manual called dual sensor operation.   JM2C

When you are using 1 meter with 2 antennas and have installed both sensors, hold down the sensor button and that puts the sensors into a polling mode.  It is reflected by a rapid flickering of both sensor lights.  Then the software and meter will reflect the RF to the sensor currently being transmitted.

The flickering lights are a bit.. err.  much.. but it all works FB.  Just down drive RF through both sensors at the same time or it will confuse the electronics and not display useful info.  I

Again thanks to the W6FVI and W6FB for your help and G3WGN/M6O for your calls and pointing to us 6 landers!


All good.

~Chris
N6WM


-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave G3WGN M6O
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 3:51 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] and now something completely different.. the w2

Chris, please let us know the 'how to' when you have it up and running.
73 David G3WGN  M6O  WJ6O

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Chris Tate - N6WM wrote
> Thanks Brian and thanks to Jack W6 F ine B usiness for getting back to
> me as well.. I think I am on the path to a solution.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:

> elecraft-bounces@.qth

> ] On Behalf Of Brian & Cyndi
> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 2:57 PM
> To:

> elecraft@.qth

> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] and now something completely different.. the
> w2
>
> 1. Not possible. The two sensors feed into an electronic switch that
> connects one sensor at a time to the microprocessor/LED bargraph display.
>
> 2. See the "W2 Owners Manual Rev D2", available on the Elecraft website.
> On page 5, "Important note" #5, it describes how to put the W2 into
> "search" mode. The W2 will automatically connect to the sensor getting RF.
> I wouldn't recommend allowing *both* sensors to be hot; CW or SSB will
> cause the sensors to switch rapidly and the resulting display would be
> meaningless.
>
> 73,
> Brian, W6FVI
>
> On 2/23/2016 7:18 AM, Chris Tate - N6WM wrote:
>> I have installed a number of W2 watt meters in a large contest
>> station in the bay area.  In general this has worked out real well,
>> but now that I am setting up a second SO2R position I need to ask if
>> anyone has either written some software or if it is at all possible
>> to
>>
>>
>> 1.        Observe data from both sensor 1 and 2 at the same time
>>
>> 2.       Switch without manual intervention (pressing the button) between
>> sensor 1 and 2.
>>
>> If anyone has an intuitive solution to this so I don't have to move
>> to 2 physical watt meters it would be great.
>>
>> Apologies if this has been discussed at some point in the past.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Chris
>> N6WM
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Re: and now something completely different.. the w2

Dave G3WGN M6O
Thanks Chris!  My use case is 2 antenna SO2R.  I can always put tape over the sensor lights :-)
Doing fine here and at last homing in on a contest QTH.  Hope all is well with you.  I have Visalia 2017 in planning so hope to see you there or in the Bay Area next spring.
73, David G3WGN  M6O

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Subject: RE: [Elecraft] and now something completely different.. the w2

Oh one more thing, this of course means that you cannot have both in the same antenna chain in this mode.. the big case for this being if you wanted an inboard low power sensor, and an outboard high power sensor.  This is not possible with the W2 and you would need 2 wattmeters. But it works for 2 antenna SO2R.  Perhaps with a W3? ;-) ;-)

~C./WM

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Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 4:21 PM
To: Dave G3WGN M6O <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] and now something completely different.. the w2

Hi Dave hope all is well, haven't seen you for quite a while now.


It works.. and the magic answer was... drum roll

See the "W2 Owners Manual Rev D2", available on the Elecraft website.
> On page 5, "Important note" #5, it describes how to put the W2 into
> "search" mode. The W2 will automatically connect to the sensor getting RF.
> I wouldn't recommend allowing *both* sensors to be hot; CW or SSB will
> cause the sensors to switch rapidly and the resulting display would be
> meaningless.

The important note # 5 I overlooked during manual scanning..  a bit obscure I personally would probably promote that to a section in the manual called dual sensor operation.   JM2C

When you are using 1 meter with 2 antennas and have installed both sensors, hold down the sensor button and that puts the sensors into a polling mode.  It is reflected by a rapid flickering of both sensor lights.  Then the software and meter will reflect the RF to the sensor currently being transmitted.

The flickering lights are a bit.. err.  much.. but it all works FB.  Just down drive RF through both sensors at the same time or it will confuse the electronics and not display useful info.  I

Again thanks to the W6FVI and W6FB for your help and G3WGN/M6O for your calls and pointing to us 6 landers!


All good.

~Chris
N6WM


-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave G3WGN M6O
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 3:51 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] and now something completely different.. the w2

Chris, please let us know the 'how to' when you have it up and running.
73 David G3WGN  M6O  WJ6O

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Chris Tate - N6WM wrote
> Thanks Brian and thanks to Jack W6 F ine B usiness for getting back to
> me as well.. I think I am on the path to a solution.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:

> elecraft-bounces@.qth

> ] On Behalf Of Brian & Cyndi
> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 2:57 PM
> To:

> elecraft@.qth

> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] and now something completely different.. the
> w2
>
> 1. Not possible. The two sensors feed into an electronic switch that
> connects one sensor at a time to the microprocessor/LED bargraph display.
>
> 2. See the "W2 Owners Manual Rev D2", available on the Elecraft website.
> On page 5, "Important note" #5, it describes how to put the W2 into
> "search" mode. The W2 will automatically connect to the sensor getting RF.
> I wouldn't recommend allowing *both* sensors to be hot; CW or SSB will
> cause the sensors to switch rapidly and the resulting display would be
> meaningless.
>
> 73,
> Brian, W6FVI
>
> On 2/23/2016 7:18 AM, Chris Tate - N6WM wrote:
>> I have installed a number of W2 watt meters in a large contest
>> station in the bay area.  In general this has worked out real well,
>> but now that I am setting up a second SO2R position I need to ask if
>> anyone has either written some software or if it is at all possible
>> to
>>
>>
>> 1.        Observe data from both sensor 1 and 2 at the same time
>>
>> 2.       Switch without manual intervention (pressing the button) between
>> sensor 1 and 2.
>>
>> If anyone has an intuitive solution to this so I don't have to move
>> to 2 physical watt meters it would be great.
>>
>> Apologies if this has been discussed at some point in the past.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Chris
>> N6WM
>> ______________________________________________________________
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