Actually, you don't need a keying interface. The K3 does it all. And I,
too, have had no problem keying the K3 from N1MM without a Winkey. In the Config menu, go to PTT-KEY. Rotate VFO A to choose OFF-DTR. (You can also choose any combination of DTR and RTS from the serial port to control PTT and Keying. See Table 3-12 in the KE7X book, if you have it). OFF-DTR means that there is no PTT control and the K3 will expect a keying signal on the serial port DTR signal. In N1MM (I can't speak for other programs), go to the CONFIGURER->HARDWARE and click the CW/Other Details box for the serial port you connected to the K3. Click on SET and make DTR be CW. That's it. The serial port will be the radio control interface and also will key the radio when N1MM sends CW. No LPT or any other keying interface needed. I haven't done it (no SSB contesting experience) but I suspect that the PTT capability can be use to key the radio when N1MM is being a voice keyer. DX guys, see you this weekend :-) 73 Fred "The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation" www.ke7x.com -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Julius Fazekas n2wn Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 1:15 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] another contesting how-to question Tim, Winkeyer is a great piece of equipment and was needed for the K2 after some changes to N1MM years back, due to timing issues. For the K3, you do not "need" Winkeyer at all, and we're talking up to 40 WPM. You do need two ports. You can use the LPT port or USB to Serial adapter from your computer, or there are serial add-on cards to be had. N1MM generates CW. You will need to build/buy a very simple serial port keying interface to key the K3 from the program. It is in the N1MM start document, and I see there are a couple folks who have built little boards for CW/PTT/FSK for this purpose. Winkeyer may be a cost effective option, if you don't have a usable second port option. I traded my last built Winkeyer for an un-built kit and some aluminum tubing. The keyer is still unbuilt. The aluminum is in 40M vertical form ;o) Check the getting started with N1MM document, it explains a lot of this in easy to read details. One of the better start=up guides I've seen... GL in ARRL DX CW! 73, Julius n2wn ----- Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html Tennessee QSO Party http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 Elecraft K3/100 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/another-contesting-how-to-question- tp7283861p7285354.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On 2/14/2012 4:33 PM, Ted Bryant wrote:
> Thanks, Fred. Let's try it out. > > N1MM documentation on radio control interfacing: > > http://tinyurl.com/6ngd9xp Worked for me. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I stand corrected Mitch. You are right, it can be done straight through the Serial (or USB to Serial) port. For some reason or another I was thinking of FSK...
No hiccups that I've noticed with three different computers older to newer, all win based... Thanks Mitch! 73, Julius
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Another good document, easy to follow, and worth having (unless you completely space and forget about it)!
Thanks for putting it together Fred... and GL in ARRL DX! Maybe the prop gods will be kinder. Cheers, Julius
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I had RTTY on the brain Fred! I bought a used K3 a while back and he included your book with it. It helped with some settings I was struggling with, I had forgot I had it until your post. GL this weekend. I'll be on a bit, but not FT. Taking my wife out to a play Saturday night... Cheers, Julius Julius Fazekas
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Elecraft K3/100 # From: "Cady, Fred [via Elecraft]" <[hidden email]> To: Julius Fazekas n2wn <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 7:38 PM Subject: Re: another contesting how-to question
Actually, you don't need a keying interface. The K3 does it all. And I,
too, have had no problem keying the K3 from N1MM without a Winkey. In the Config menu, go to PTT-KEY. Rotate VFO A to choose OFF-DTR. (You can also choose any combination of DTR and RTS from the serial port to control PTT and Keying. See Table 3-12 in the KE7X book, if you have it). OFF-DTR means that there is no PTT control and the K3 will expect a keying signal on the serial port DTR signal. In N1MM (I can't speak for other programs), go to the CONFIGURER->HARDWARE and click the CW/Other Details box for the serial port you connected to the K3. Click on SET and make DTR be CW. That's it. The serial port will be the radio control interface and also will key the radio when N1MM sends CW. No LPT or any other keying interface needed. I haven't done it (no SSB contesting experience) but I suspect that the PTT capability can be use to key the radio when N1MM is being a voice keyer. DX guys, see you this weekend :-) 73 Fred "The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation" www.ke7x.com -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Julius Fazekas n2wn Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 1:15 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] another contesting how-to question Tim, Winkeyer is a great piece of equipment and was needed for the K2 after some changes to N1MM years back, due to timing issues. For the K3, you do not "need" Winkeyer at all, and we're talking up to 40 WPM. You do need two ports. You can use the LPT port or USB to Serial adapter from your computer, or there are serial add-on cards to be had. N1MM generates CW. You will need to build/buy a very simple serial port keying interface to key the K3 from the program. It is in the N1MM start document, and I see there are a couple folks who have built little boards for CW/PTT/FSK for this purpose. Winkeyer may be a cost effective option, if you don't have a usable second port option. I traded my last built Winkeyer for an un-built kit and some aluminum tubing. The keyer is still unbuilt. The aluminum is in 40M vertical form ;o) Check the getting started with N1MM document, it explains a lot of this in easy to read details. One of the better start=up guides I've seen... GL in ARRL DX CW! 73, Julius n2wn ----- Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html Tennessee QSO Party http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 Elecraft K3/100 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/another-contesting-how-to-question- tp7283861p7285354.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below:
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