bandwidth question of K2
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When I am set to LSB on 40 meters without any filter engaged, what is the bandwidth that I can receive?
I am using my K2 as a tunable IF for a LF converter that I experiment with, and I heard a station last night that was well above where I was tuning (almost 20 kHz) and I am trying to rationalize that to myself. Chris _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: bandwidth question of K2
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Chris,
When you say 'without any filter engaged' am I right in assuming that this means that you have bypassed the KSB2's crystal filter and the K2's IF crystal filter? If that is the case then the K2's circuits after its TUF mixer would behave in the same way as a simple direct conversion receiver, whose bandwidth would be determined by the two crystal filter just ahead of the product detector and the audio circuits. I don't have my K2 manual here to see if there is anything else. However I suspect that the reason that you heard a station almost 20 kHz above where you were tuning is that it was being 'heard' by a spurious response of the K2 or your LF converter, or a combination of both. Another possibility is that a spurious response of your LF converter was hearing some oscillator in the K2, but I am assuming that the station 20 kHz up was a real station. If of any help I could run a spurious response check for you later this evening (our time) if you would let me know the LO frequency of your LF converter, the LF input frequency to which you were tuned, and the 40m frequency to which your K2 was tuned when you heard the station 20 kHz above where you were tuned. 73, Geoff GM4ESD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Waldrup" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 2:24 PM Subject: [Elecraft] bandwidth question of K2 When I am set to LSB on 40 meters without any filter engaged, what is the bandwidth that I can receive? I am using my K2 as a tunable IF for a LF converter that I experiment with, and I heard a station last night that was well above where I was tuning (almost 20 kHz) and I am trying to rationalize that to myself. Chris _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hi Geoff,
Thanks for your input. I didn't disengage any filters but none of the three filters that I had programmed into the uinit were selected. I do a lot of aeronautical NDB (non directional beacon) hunting and those were coming in normally . I use a homebrew AMRAD LF converter with the IF at 7 Mhz. Last night I decided to try my first attempt at DGPS beacon hunting, and the decoder software actually decodes the bit stream and gives information about the station. The local NDB on 350 Khz was strong as usual last night. I tuned to 7.302 Mhz (302 Khz) to tune what I thought was the semi local DGPS beacon in Greensboro. I was getting ID's from DGPS stations in Holland and India, and I got a message that my computer was locked to one in Victoria Australia. The one in Holland is at 302 Khz so I believe this one but the one in Australia is somewhere around 318 or 320 Khz. The PC did take an hour to decode the 7 beacons, so I am not sure if something is wrong. The signal I am getting is digital of some nature, so it isn't like the NDB's where you can hear CW. I wasn't sure without any filter manually selected by me, how wide a signal I would be able to receive with the K2. Chris KD4BJ Raleigh, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy" <[hidden email]> To: "Chris Waldrup" <[hidden email]> Cc: "Elecraft Discussion List" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] bandwidth question of K2 > Chris, > > When you say 'without any filter engaged' am I right in assuming that this > means that you have bypassed the KSB2's crystal filter and the K2's IF > crystal filter? If that is the case then the K2's circuits after its TUF > mixer would behave in the same way as a simple direct conversion receiver, > whose bandwidth would be determined by the two crystal filter just ahead > of the product detector and the audio circuits. I don't have my K2 manual > here to see if there is anything else. > > However I suspect that the reason that you heard a station almost 20 kHz > above where you were tuning is that it was being 'heard' by a spurious > response of the K2 or your LF converter, or a combination of both. Another > possibility is that a spurious response of your LF converter was hearing > some oscillator in the K2, but I am assuming that the station 20 kHz up > was a real station. If of any help I could run a spurious response check > for you later this evening (our time) if you would let me know the LO > frequency of your LF converter, the LF input frequency to which you were > tuned, and the 40m frequency to which your K2 was tuned when you heard the > station 20 kHz above where you were tuned. > > 73, > Geoff > GM4ESD > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Waldrup" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 2:24 PM > Subject: [Elecraft] bandwidth question of K2 > > > When I am set to LSB on 40 meters without any filter engaged, what is the > bandwidth that I can receive? > I am using my K2 as a tunable IF for a LF converter that I experiment > with, and I heard a station last night that was well above where I was > tuning (almost 20 kHz) and I am trying to rationalize that to myself. > > Chris > > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: bandwidth question of K2
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Chris Waldrup wrote:
> > Thanks for your input. I didn't disengage any filters but none of the > three filters that I had programmed into the uinit were selected. You can't not select a filter. I think what you probably mean is that you had the OP1 filter selected, which is the filter on the SSB card, not the variable width filter on the main board. The specification for that is in the manual for the SSB option, although it varies with the vintage of the K2. -- David Woolley "The Elecraft list is a forum for the discussion of topics related to Elecraft products and more general topics related ham radio" List Guidelines <http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm> _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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