contest reflections on K2 - addendum
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>1. QSK. This is user skill level dependent. If you do 20 wpm or less, the K2 QSK may be fine for you. During contesting, I am going at least 32-34 wpm, and not uncommonly at 40wpm. Hmmm...guess I should return the stack of plaques I've won over the years since I have NEVER used QSK. This includes all 6 current USA records for CQ WW, ARRL DX and CQ WPX on 10m, both CW and SSB. I also normally compare favorably with the top USA multi-multi stations: http://users.vnet.net/btippett/new_page_6.htm >2. Stable power output. I use multiple antennas PER BAND. So whenever I change antennas, I have to hit TUNE. You need a peak-responding meter like a Mirage MP1. No need to hit TUNE since it responds quite well to fast CW. >3. AGC. Using the K2 S meter, signals here range from zero S units on the meter (even though atmospheric noise is supposed to be S1) to 40 or even 60 over 9 (all LEDs lit up). A 40 over 9 signal is VERY LOUD in the phones while S1 is not. Orion's flat AGC response was a major dislike by operators at W8JI in multiop 160 contests. Yaesu and Ten-Tec have both now added Sloped AGC options to their flat responses. See K8ZOA's interesting results below: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2007-May/067727.html As you said above..."different strokes". 73, Bill W4ZV _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I'm not a (very) well-known contester ... C6, 4M5I, others ....
VP5PP (2nd) in world) in ARRL CW DX, ARRL 160 CW 1st place NW Division, many CW SS wins, etc. My K2's works break-in fine, BUT, I can't imagine the nerve- wracking, mind-numbing use of full break-in for a contest! Wow! I suppose one might hear an "intruder" on one's frequency, but most of us would just plod along and ignore him ... (:-)) Can't think of much else gained by full break-in. As Bill says ... different strokes. (:-)) 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [hidden email] _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In a message dated 5/28/07 1:38:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email]
writes: > I can't imagine the nerve- > wracking, mind-numbing use of full break-in for a contest! I can - I've done it. I'm not a big-gun contester by any means, and do a lot more H&P than running a freq. I found it good in the following situations: 1) When doing hunt&pounce and trying to bust a pileup, QSK lets me hear when the station calling answers somebody else, and so I don't waste time or add to the QRM, I just stop sending. With two VFOs, I'll leave one VFO on the pileup and use the other to seek new ones. 2) If I'm holding a frequency and a big gun plops down nearby, I know it right away and don't waste time trying to fight him. 73 de Jim, N2EY ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I think QSK in hunt&peck is also useless
unless you are sending 15 wpm. With short calls like n2ey, QSK hardly benefits to try and stop sending when 'he' calls someone else. With short calls you are already done., so what's the point? One VFO on the pileup and the other on H&P, well, what's QSK got to do with all that? de Joe, aa4nn >> I can't imagine the nerve- >> wracking, mind-numbing use of full break-in for a contest! > > I can - I've done it. I'm not a big-gun contester by any means, and do a > lot > more H&P than running a freq. > > I found it good in the following situations: > > 1) When doing hunt&pounce and trying to bust a pileup, QSK lets me hear > when > the station calling answers somebody else, and so I don't waste time or > add to > the QRM, I just stop sending. With two VFOs, I'll leave one VFO on the > pileup > and use the other to seek new ones. > > 2) If I'm holding a frequency and a big gun plops down nearby, I know it > right away and don't waste time trying to fight him. > > 73 de Jim, N2EY _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Ken Kopp
Hi Ken,
When I am running I agree with you. But when I am chasing someone I find QSK to be very helpful. Sometimes you can work someone and exchange reports while someone without QSK is still calling and not realizing what just happened. 73, N2TK, Tony -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ken Kopp Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 1:38 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] K2's break-in I'm not a (very) well-known contester ... C6, 4M5I, others .... VP5PP (2nd) in world) in ARRL CW DX, ARRL 160 CW 1st place NW Division, many CW SS wins, etc. My K2's works break-in fine, BUT, I can't imagine the nerve- wracking, mind-numbing use of full break-in for a contest! Wow! I suppose one might hear an "intruder" on one's frequency, but most of us would just plod along and ignore him ... (:-)) Can't think of much else gained by full break-in. As Bill says ... different strokes. (:-)) 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [hidden email] _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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It's funny how different folks really do like (and need) different things. K2 QSK: I love it. It is quiet. I've had lots of TT stuff and never understood the rant about how great their QSK was. To me it was thumpy and noisy. The RX would respond poorly to the sudden rush of incoming signal and there were switching transients in the headphone monitor that made the overall experience of carrying on a QSO less than wonderful. The K2 is much quieter and well behaved. It sounds great. I now see that part of that is that the QSK is a tad on the slow side but so far, I have not found that to be any sort of limitation. K2 AGC: Having a slope to the audio output (more RF in produces more audio out) sure makes the rig more comfortable to listen to. S/N ratio results in an actual difference between the signal and noise in the cans. My Kenwood had no slope and the noise between signals was at the same audio level as the signal. Tiring to listen to. As a casual operator and occasional dabbler in contests, the K2 is more than enough rig! - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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