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I keep trying to find a way to sort this list so I can read about K2
stuff, without fishing through hundrds of messages to determine what is relevant. At one time there was strong guidance to put the radio family (K1 K2 K3) at the beggining of the Subject line. That is a great idea, but nobody does it. Would there be any objection to readers changing thread names to add that? I have tried filters, but they (at least what my ISP offers) just don't work very well. You never really know if/where the family name will be found in messages, and I see more cases recently where it is challenging to tell what family is being addressed after I read the message. Is there any reconsideration of separating the list? It seems llike there is plenty of traffic to support at least two lists. Anybody can subscribe to multiple lists, so I don't see how separate lists could be bad Thanks and 73, Tom KG3V _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I find most people do put K2, K3 etc in their postings and this is how I do
this in Entiurage, which is the MS Mac equivalent of Outlook, I'm about to switch to Apple PIM (address book, iCal, Mail) and will do equivalent in there. 1. using Mail List Manager (you can use rules), set a category of Electraft on all mail from the Elecraft Reflector Then rules for any mail marked as Elecraft in step 1 ... 2. if it has K3 in the subject, stop processing more rules 3. if it has K1, KX1 or K2 in the subject, delete it 73 de M0XDF / K3 #174 On 24/02/2008 13:51, "Tom Z" <[hidden email]> sent: > I keep trying to find a way to sort this list so I can read about K2 > stuff, without fishing through hundrds of messages to determine what > is relevant. At one time there was strong guidance to put the radio > family (K1 K2 K3) at the beggining of the Subject line. That is a > great idea, but nobody does it. Would there be any objection to > readers changing thread names to add that? > > I have tried filters, but they (at least what my ISP offers) just > don't work very well. You never really know if/where the family name > will be found in messages, and I see more cases recently where it is > challenging to tell what family is being addressed after I read the > message. > > Is there any reconsideration of separating the list? It seems llike > there is plenty of traffic to support at least two lists. Anybody can > subscribe to multiple lists, so I don't see how separate lists could > be bad > > Thanks and 73, > > Tom KG3V -- Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right. -Isaac Asimov, scientist and writer (1920-1992) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Tom KG3V
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Hash: SHA1 People have been getting sloppy setting the correct subject line so users mail filters have something to filter. Maybe it's time for Elecraft to start rejecting mail not in the proper format. Tom Z wrote: | I keep trying to find a way to sort this list so I can read about K2 | stuff, without fishing through hundrds of messages to determine what | is relevant. At one time there was strong guidance to put the radio | family (K1 K2 K3) at the beggining of the Subject line. That is a | great idea, but nobody does it. Would there be any objection to | readers changing thread names to add that? | | I have tried filters, but they (at least what my ISP offers) just | don't work very well. You never really know if/where the family name | will be found in messages, and I see more cases recently where it is | challenging to tell what family is being addressed after I read the | message. | | Is there any reconsideration of separating the list? It seems llike | there is plenty of traffic to support at least two lists. Anybody can | subscribe to multiple lists, so I don't see how separate lists could | be bad | | Thanks and 73, | | Tom KG3V | _______________________________________________ | Elecraft mailing list | Post to: [hidden email] | You must be a subscriber to post to the list. | Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): | http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft | | Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm | Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com | | - -- R. Kevin Stover, ACØH -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHwXx/11jxjloa2wsRAr+mAJ9qOoG12kBdRIzn4yA0R0re5ETMYgCfQ2Q2 nMQdk/2M4cTDm3J7mnoVbh4= =jJIY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hello Tom, others ...
I sincerely hope Elecraft doesn't use staff time to sort the list or in some way do "our" job for us. They have ... especially now ... far more important matters to address. I -want- to read every posting. The subject matter is (almost) always of some interest. Many really would defy being "hard sorted" by KX1, K1, K2 or K3 related subjects. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [hidden email] or [hidden email] _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Thanks for all the comments. But I stand by my original post. The fact
is that most people are not putting the headers on the Subject line (I didn't know what to use on this one). I have tried filtering for about 6 months. It does a poor job. There are posts the do not have the radio in the body either. There is also no way to tell if there is a post the is aimed at K2 users that mentione the K3 in the body (or vice versa). I like the idea of having a mandatory header. That would help. I will keep trying to filter, but I can't see why a growing list like this would not subdivide. What is the downside? Of course I respect Elecraft's decision on the list format, and am just expressing my opinion (as a very heavy user of e-mail lists). What about my main question - would there be an objection to "repliers" changing a thread name to include the proper header (if it is obvious)? 73, Tom KG3V On 2/24/08, Ken Kopp <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hello Tom, others ... > > I sincerely hope Elecraft doesn't use staff time to sort > the list or in some way do "our" job for us. They > have ... especially now ... far more important matters to > address. > > I -want- to read every posting. The subject matter is > (almost) always of some interest. Many really would > defy being "hard sorted" by KX1, K1, K2 or K3 related > subjects. > > 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP > [hidden email] > or > [hidden email] > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by ac0h
G4ILO wrote:
> The best > solution for those who are bugged by this would be to switch to a better > email client that has rules that work on the *body* of the message, not just > the subject. I know that Outlook Express can't do this, but perhaps a > Mozilla Thunderbird user will confirm if that can. I have used TBird for about 12 hours now (my old mail client crashed three days ago and I couldn't resurrect it) and have set up a lot of filters today. Yes, it can look for a specific string/phrase in the body of the text. My setup, though, was to examine the subject line for K3 and route it to a separate subfolder. I was greeted by several hundred messages in this list alone! -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane K2/100 - s/n 5204 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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