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Allen Brier N5XZ
I have a strange problem with my USB keyer. It also seems to suffer from some sort of timing issue...it occasionally hesitates or "stutters" whithin characters and it is very annoying. I don't understand how that can be happening, any ideas?

Computer: Win 7
Software: LOGic 9
USB Inteface: RigExpert Plus

Allen N5XZ K3 #2324


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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:30:37 -0700
>From: Vic K2VCO <[hidden email]>
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fwd:  sending computer morse?
>To: [hidden email]
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>It depends a lot on what your computer is doing. For years I used DTR keying with N1MM and
>a slow computer, and I couldn't understand why people claimed that there were problems
>with this. But I never operate 'assisted' by Internet connections, clusters, etc. in
>contests. So that may be the reason it worked as well as it did.
>
>Anyway I recently got a Winkey USB, and was surprised at how much better the
>computer-generated CW sounded! Also, the Winkey offers PTT switching that is smoother and
>faster than the semi-QSK in the K3.
>
>The one downside (for me) is that I absolutely /hate/ the stand-alone keyer function. I
>just cannot send with it without making lots of errors, despite trying numerous settings
>of the paddle sensing function.
>
>I am used to mode B iambic keying, and I set all my keyers for that mode. The best one for
>me is the Idiom Press Logikey K3. It is better than the internal K3 keyer, which is better
>than the Winkey. So I still use the Logikey for my hand sending.
>
>On 9/27/2012 6:48 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Keying via DTR or RTS will work with the simple transistor circuit, but
>> it is subject to timing problems created by the operating system.  There
>> is no way for an application to directly control a port, so the
>> application has to pass the request to the operating system and then the
>> operating system will control the port when it deems appropriate.  That
>> may be OK at slow CW speeds, but the timing becomes more critical at
>> higher speeds.  Enter the WinKeyer to solve that problem.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 9/26/2012 4:26 PM, Matt Maguire wrote:
>>> You can do it cheaper by building a simple transistor circuit that allows you computer to key the radio via the computer's RS232 serial port. Not quite as good as a Winkeyer, but gets you on air very quickly so you can have a play.
>>>
>>> 73, Matt VK2ACL
>
>
>--
>Vic, K2VCO
>Fresno CA
>http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
>

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Cookie
Allen, is this hesitation present when you are keying the WinKey USB (is it a WinKey?) directly with a paddle, with the pre programmed keys? with a typed in message?  For it to be a K3 problem it would have to be present when the K3 is keyed with a bug or straight key or a different keyer.  I have not seen any such with N1MM or XMLog.
 
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 From: Allen Brier N5XZ <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:16 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] fwd: Sending Computer Morse
 
I have a strange problem with my USB keyer. It also seems to suffer from some sort of timing issue...it occasionally hesitates or "stutters" whithin characters and it is very annoying. I don't understand how that can be happening, any ideas?

Computer: Win 7
Software: LOGic 9
USB Inteface: RigExpert Plus

Allen N5XZ K3 #2324


-----Original Message-----

>
>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:30:37 -0700
>From: Vic K2VCO <[hidden email]>
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fwd:  sending computer morse?
>To: [hidden email]
>Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>It depends a lot on what your computer is doing. For years I used DTR keying with N1MM and
>a slow computer, and I couldn't understand why people claimed that there were problems
>with this. But I never operate 'assisted' by Internet connections, clusters, etc. in
>contests. So that may be the reason it worked as well as it did.
>
>Anyway I recently got a Winkey USB, and was surprised at how much better the
>computer-generated CW sounded! Also, the Winkey offers PTT switching that is smoother and
>faster than the semi-QSK in the K3.
>
>The one downside (for me) is that I absolutely /hate/ the stand-alone keyer function. I
>just cannot send with it without making lots of errors, despite trying numerous settings
>of the paddle sensing function.
>
>I am used to mode B iambic keying, and I set all my keyers for that mode. The best one for
>me is the Idiom Press Logikey K3. It is better than the internal K3 keyer, which is better
>than the Winkey. So I still use the Logikey for my hand sending.
>
>On 9/27/2012 6:48 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Keying via DTR or RTS will work with the simple transistor circuit, but
>> it is subject to timing problems created by the operating system.  There
>> is no way for an application to directly control a port, so the
>> application has to pass the request to the operating system and then the
>> operating system will control the port when it deems appropriate.  That
>> may be OK at slow CW speeds, but the timing becomes more critical at
>> higher speeds.  Enter the WinKeyer to solve that problem.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 9/26/2012 4:26 PM, Matt Maguire wrote:
>>> You can do it cheaper by building a simple transistor circuit that allows you computer to key the radio via the computer's RS232 serial port. Not quite as good as a Winkeyer, but gets you on air very quickly so you can have a play.
>>>
>>> 73, Matt VK2ACL
>
>
>--
>Vic, K2VCO
>Fresno CA
>http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
>

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