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heard someone say that the tech. study guide guide they got from our local library showed that you still need code test. went and looked for myself. yep there it was. an arrl book from 2001. told help desk they needed to update. was told it was on order. all three test books will be ordered. you just might want to check your local library to help ensure they are up to date. or better yet just buy a set and donate. s/tony rowland ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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If you ask your local VE very nicely they will give you the code exams.
All of them :) It is fun to see how you do on each for a little practice. 73, Kevin. KD5ONS On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:38:01 -0800, tony rowland <[hidden email]> wrote: > > heard someone say that the tech. study guide guide they got from our > local library showed that you still need code test. went and looked for > myself. yep there it was. an arrl book from 2001. told help desk they > needed to update. was told it was on order. all three test books will be > ordered. you just might want to check your local library to help ensure > they are up to date. or better yet just buy a set and donate. > s/tony rowland -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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* On 2011 21 Jan 23:47 -0600, Kevin Rock wrote:
> If you ask your local VE very nicely they will give you the code exams. > All of them :) It is fun to see how you do on each for a little practice. Not this VE team (I'm the CVE). I will, however, provide information on W1AW qualifying runs upon request. ;-) 73, de Nate >> -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://n0nb.us/index.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Sorry, but the VEC (Anchorage) , of which I am chairman, no longer offers code testing for any reason. All of the exam tapes and texts were destroyed a few years ago. We don't even have the 5 WPM stuff any more. If someone is looking for a code test, I would suggest listening to W1AW, or going to one of the on-line practice exam sites. Google search for "code practice" - there will be lots of "hits" to select from. Many of the other VEC's I have spoken to have a similar policy - that is to say no code exams. at least not officially. This was discussed at the NCVEC annual meeting a few years ago. If I remember correctly, the decision of the assembly was that code testing would no longer be supported as an "official" policy, but that individual VECs and VEs were free to offer "unofficial" tests if they so desired. Note the unintended side benefit of this action - VECs cannot charge for giving a code test, as it is no longer a FCC requirement for any class of amateur radio license. It may be possible to find a VE that still has the capability, but I kind of doubt it. Enthusiasm for code testing (as opposed to actually operating on the air) seems to be on the decline. I am speaking only from my own memory here, and do not pretend to speak for the NCVEC as a whole. This does not mean that learning and using Morse code is being discouraged - just the opposite is true. Both the ARRL and the W5YI / Gordon West groups reported a while back that sales of code practice tapes and other code learning materials are more popular than ever. Some observers have reported that on the air code traffic is booming, and that it is becoming hard to find a "hole" in which to start a QSO on some days. From my point of view, working DX has always been easier on CW then on phone. For confirmation, try listening during one of the more popular CW DX contests. It is still true that the modestly equipped stations of some of the rarer DX hams are basically CW only. I am not sure if there is a code requirement for the commercial exams (2nd class radiotelegraph, for example) or not. There is some software available from various vendors that still does code practice, and one of them could probably do a timed exam. The W1AW code runs are at several speeds, starting at 5 WPM and increasing by steps until maxing out at about 35 WPM, I think The runs go from slow to fast some days and fast to slow other days. The accuracy of copy can be verified by checking articles and contest results in QST. - Jim, KL7CC Anchorage ARC VEC, Inc. Kevin Rock wrote: > If you ask your local VE very nicely they will give you the code exams. > All of them :) It is fun to see how you do on each for a little practice. > 73, > Kevin. KD5ONS > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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* On 2011 22 Jan 08:41 -0600, Jim Wiley wrote:
> This does not mean that learning and using Morse code is being > discouraged - just the opposite is true. Both the ARRL and the W5YI / > Gordon West groups reported a while back that sales of code practice > tapes and other code learning materials are more popular than ever. > Some observers have reported that on the air code traffic is booming, > and that it is becoming hard to find a "hole" in which to start a QSO on > some days. That is good news. I know that the Straight Key Century Club (SKCC) is busy, both on the air and on their mailing list. Membership count is now near 7600. SKCC maintains 7114 kc as an 'Elmer' frequency. New/slow ops are encouraged to start there and make QSOs. Once I got my head around the fact that Morse exams would be going away, I began to think that the pessimists who asserted that the use of CW on the amateur bands would fade away would be proven wrong. It looks like I am happily correct. 73, de Nate N0NB >> -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://n0nb.us/index.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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That's great news, Nate! By the way... I notice a lot of operators sending "E N" when answering a turn over and confirming questions. Is that a new "cool" way to send Roger (R), or have I missed something in the last twenty years or so? 73, Tom Childers Radio Amateur N5GE Licensed since 1976 QCWA Life Member 35102 ARRL Life Member Retired Professional C# Software developer http://www.n5ge.net On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 08:50:30 -0600, Nate Bargmann <[hidden email]> wrote: >* On 2011 22 Jan 08:41 -0600, Jim Wiley wrote: >> This does not mean that learning and using Morse code is being >> discouraged - just the opposite is true. Both the ARRL and the W5YI / >> Gordon West groups reported a while back that sales of code practice >> tapes and other code learning materials are more popular than ever. >> Some observers have reported that on the air code traffic is booming, >> and that it is becoming hard to find a "hole" in which to start a QSO on >> some days. > >That is good news. I know that the Straight Key Century Club (SKCC) is >busy, both on the air and on their mailing list. Membership count is >now near 7600. SKCC maintains 7114 kc as an 'Elmer' frequency. >New/slow ops are encouraged to start there and make QSOs. > >Once I got my head around the fact that Morse exams would be going away, >I began to think that the pessimists who asserted that the use of CW on >the amateur bands would fade away would be proven wrong. It looks like >I am happily correct. > >73, de Nate N0NB >> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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It is interesting how each VEC works just a little differently from the
others. I have worked for four of them over the years. Even within a VEC various teams have their own styles. However, I am sure we all want the very same thing. That being said I know a number of teams still have their code tapes from years back and can give the code tests informally. Not that one earns anything but it is nice to know what you could have done when the 20, 13, and 5 wpm code tests were being run. I find the W1AW code runs very, very different from a test environment. But we each have our own opinions. 73, Kevin. KD5ONS On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 05:53:51 -0800, Jim Wiley <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Sorry, but the VEC (Anchorage) , of which I am chairman, no longer > offers code testing for any reason. All of the exam tapes and texts > were destroyed a few years ago. We don't even have the 5 WPM stuff any > more. If someone is looking for a code test, I would suggest > listening to W1AW, or going to one of the on-line practice exam sites. > Google search for "code practice" - there will be lots of "hits" to > select from. > > > Many of the other VEC's I have spoken to have a similar policy - that is > to say no code exams. at least not officially. This was discussed at > the NCVEC annual meeting a few years ago. If I remember correctly, the > decision of the assembly was that code testing would no longer be > supported as an "official" policy, but that individual VECs and VEs were > free to offer "unofficial" tests if they so desired. Note the > unintended side benefit of this action - VECs cannot charge for giving a > code test, as it is no longer a FCC requirement for any class of amateur > radio license. > It may be possible to find a VE that still has the capability, but I > kind of doubt it. Enthusiasm for code testing (as opposed to actually > operating on the air) seems to be on the decline. I am speaking only > from my own memory here, and do not pretend to speak for the NCVEC as a > whole. > This does not mean that learning and using Morse code is being > discouraged - just the opposite is true. Both the ARRL and the W5YI / > Gordon West groups reported a while back that sales of code practice > tapes and other code learning materials are more popular than ever. > Some observers have reported that on the air code traffic is booming, > and that it is becoming hard to find a "hole" in which to start a QSO on > some days. From my point of view, working DX has always been easier > on CW then on phone. For confirmation, try listening during one of > the more popular CW DX contests. It is still true that the modestly > equipped stations of some of the rarer DX hams are basically CW only. > > > I am not sure if there is a code requirement for the commercial exams > (2nd class radiotelegraph, for example) or not. There is some software > available from various vendors that still does code practice, and one of > them could probably do a timed exam. The W1AW code runs are at several > speeds, starting at 5 WPM and increasing by steps until maxing out at > about 35 WPM, I think The runs go from slow to fast some days and fast > to slow other days. The accuracy of copy can be verified by checking > articles and contest results in QST. > - Jim, KL7CC > Anchorage ARC VEC, Inc. > > > > Kevin Rock wrote: >> If you ask your local VE very nicely they will give you the code >> exams. All of them :) It is fun to see how you do on each for a >> little practice. >> 73, >> Kevin. KD5ONS >> -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On 1/22/2011 7:17 AM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote:
> > That's great news, Nate! > > By the way... I notice a lot of operators sending "E N" when answering a turn > over and confirming questions. Is that a new "cool" way to send Roger (R), or > have I missed something in the last twenty years or so? Not sure if it is "cool" but I've noticed it too and I don't think you've missed anything. It used to be fairly common in "pre-keyer" bug days, and it seems quite a few are back to using bugs now. Same thing for HI, often sent HEE. If you want machine sent Morse to simulate an exam, just download MorseGen from Julian, G4ILO, set the speed and feed it text files. It will create audio files too, I've burned some onto CD's and "read" a couple of short stories while on a long trip. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011 - www.cqp.org ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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