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n1wr

help with DX4WIN

I got no help from the DX4WIN reflector on this. Maybe (hopefully) someone here can help?

I use DX4WIN 8.08 and a K3. I have been experiencing an oddity that I have
not been able to resolve:

With K3 tuned to 3500.0, if I double click on a spot at 3503.5 the K3 goes
to 3503.5. No problem.

With the K3 in the CW portion of the band (e.g. 3503.5) if I double click on
a spot at 3800.0 the K3 goes to 3800.65.

With the radio in the SSB portion of the band (e.g. 3800.0) if I double
click on a spot at 3503.5 the K3 goes to 3502.85.

I am getting a 650 Hz offset whenever the K3 changes modes. This happens in
DX4WIN, but not in N1MM.

Neither RIT nor XIT are on. Anyone have an idea where this is coming from?

Thanks,
Wayne, N1WR, K3 s/n 1945
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: help with DX4WIN

Wayne,

I would wager that you have your CW pitch set to 650 Hz, either in the
K3 or in DX4WIN or both.

Then I would guess that DX4WIN is changing the mode first and then
changing the frequency. Done that way, the frequency can be off by the
amount of the sidetone pitch. If the frequency is changed first, and
then the mode, the K3 should follow along nicely. (I an guessing at the
order which causes this situation, I may have it backwards).

The developer of N1MM has worked closely with Elecraft to iron out
little things like this - apparently the author of DX4WIN has not done
the same.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/11/2011 1:58 PM, Wayne Rogers wrote:

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Richard Ferch

Re: help with DX4WIN

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In the K3's CONFIG:CW WGHT configuration item, what is your setting for
automatic VFO offset on SSB/CW mode changes (changed by tapping the 5
button)? If this option is set to VFO OFS and the frequency change is
performed before the mode change, the mode change will result in an
offset equal to your CW sidetone pitch. If this option is set to VFO
NOR, or if the mode change is performed before the frequency change,
there will be no such offset. This could account for both the offset and
the difference between the two software programs.

73,
Rich VE3KI

On 1/11/2011 1:58 PM, Wayne Rogers wrote:
> I got no help from the DX4WIN reflector on this. Maybe (hopefully)
someone here can help?
>
> I use DX4WIN 8.08 and a K3. I have been experiencing an oddity that
I have
> not been able to resolve:
>
> With K3 tuned to 3500.0, if I double click on a spot at 3503.5 the K3
goes
> to 3503.5. No problem.
>
> With the K3 in the CW portion of the band (e.g. 3503.5) if I double
click on
> a spot at 3800.0 the K3 goes to 3800.65.
>
> With the radio in the SSB portion of the band (e.g. 3800.0) if I double
> click on a spot at 3503.5 the K3 goes to 3502.85.
>
> I am getting a 650 Hz offset whenever the K3 changes modes. This
happens in
> DX4WIN, but not in N1MM.
>

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Dave Perry N4QS

Re: help with DX4WIN

In reply to this post by n1wr

Wayne,

As I said, I had this problem a few months ago. Here is the solution from Rich, VE3KI:

What is your setting for CONFIG:VFO OFS (see CONFIG:CW WGHT in the
manual)? If you have CONFIG:VFO OFS turned on, the mode change between SSB
and CW will cause the dial frequency to jump by the CW sidetone pitch.

As I recall, I just turned OFS off in the K3 and everything was back to normal.

73,

Dave, N4QS

>I got no help from the DX4WIN reflector on this. Maybe (hopefully) someone here can help?
>
> I use DX4WIN 8.08 and a K3. I have been experiencing an oddity that I have
> not been able to resolve:
>
> With K3 tuned to 3500.0, if I double click on a spot at 3503.5 the K3 goes
> to 3503.5. No problem.
>
> With the K3 in the CW portion of the band (e.g. 3503.5) if I double click on
> a spot at 3800.0 the K3 goes to 3800.65.
>
> With the radio in the SSB portion of the band (e.g. 3800.0) if I double
> click on a spot at 3503.5 the K3 goes to 3502.85.
>
> I am getting a 650 Hz offset whenever the K3 changes modes. This happens in
> DX4WIN, but not in N1MM.
>
> Neither RIT nor XIT are on. Anyone have an idea where this is coming from?
>
> Thanks,
> Wayne, N1WR, K3 s/n 1945
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n1wr

Re: help with DX4WIN

In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm-4

Thanks to all the responders. Unhappily I haven't yet found the problem:
Here's what's been suggested:

"I would wager that you have your CW pitch set to 650 Hz, either in the K3
or in DX4WIN or both." I believe it is set to 650, but I can't find
anything that would cause the spot offset.

"Try changing CONFIG CW WGHT. TAP1 to not have CW+SSB in the window." I
tried this with the settings of both CW+SSB and CW-SSB but didn't fix the
problem.

"Turn CONFIG: VFO OFS - OFF." It was OFF.

"What version of K3 software are you using?" MCU 04.22, FPF 01.14, DSP1
02.70 ( all current).

Thanks to all,

Wayne N1WR

> On 1/11/2011 1:58 PM, Wayne Rogers wrote:
>> I got no help from the DX4WIN reflector on this. Maybe (hopefully)
>> someone here can help?
>>
>> I use DX4WIN 8.08 and a K3. I have been experiencing an oddity that I
>> have
>> not been able to resolve:
>>
>> With K3 tuned to 3500.0, if I double click on a spot at 3503.5 the K3
>> goes
>> to 3503.5. No problem.
>>
>> With the K3 in the CW portion of the band (e.g. 3503.5) if I double click
>> on
>> a spot at 3800.0 the K3 goes to 3800.65.
>>
>> With the radio in the SSB portion of the band (e.g. 3800.0) if I double
>> click on a spot at 3503.5 the K3 goes to 3502.85.
>>
>> I am getting a 650 Hz offset whenever the K3 changes modes. This happens
>> in
>> DX4WIN, but not in N1MM.
>>

n1wr

Re: help with DX4WIN

In reply to this post by n1wr

Problem solved - thanks to Dave, N4QS.

Under CONFIG CW WGHT - tapping 5 toggles between VFO offset on SSB/CW mode
change (VFO OFS) or
no offset (VFO NOR, default). After Dave pointed this out I went to the pdf
version of the manual and sure enough - it included this option. I guess I
need to toss the old (outdated) hard copy manual I got with the radio!

73, Wayne

Wayne Rogers wrote:

> Thanks to all the responders. Unhappily I haven't yet found the problem:
> Here's what's been suggested:
>
> "I would wager that you have your CW pitch set to 650 Hz, either in the
> K3
> or in DX4WIN or both." I believe it is set to 650, but I can't find
> anything that would cause the spot offset.
>
> "Try changing CONFIG CW WGHT. TAP1 to not have CW+SSB in the window." I
> tried this with the settings of both CW+SSB and CW-SSB but didn't fix the
> problem.
>
> "Turn CONFIG: VFO OFS - OFF." It was OFF.
>
> "What version of K3 software are you using?" MCU 04.22, FPF 01.14, DSP1
> 02.70 ( all current).
>
> Thanks to all,
>
> Wayne N1WR
>

Don Wilhelm-4

Re: help with DX4WIN

Wayne,

I would not trash that hard copy manual - it contains information about
the connections to the K3 and the various buttons and knobs that are
still valid.

The biggest changes are in the menu system, so I would advise to
download the latest .pdf version of the manual and print the section
dealing with the menu items. then insert it in your manual as an update.

- AND pay attention to the Firmware Release Notes (print them if you
want, but K3 Utility Help is a convenient resource for that information).

That information should keep you up-to-date with the latest major
changes to the K3 - it is mostly in the firmware.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/11/2011 8:10 PM, Wayne Rogers wrote:

> Problem solved - thanks to Dave, N4QS.
>
> Under CONFIG CW WGHT - tapping 5 toggles between VFO offset on SSB/CW mode
> change (VFO OFS) or
> no offset (VFO NOR, default). After Dave pointed this out I went to the pdf
> version of the manual and sure enough - it included this option. I guess I
> need to toss the old (outdated) hard copy manual I got with the radio!
>
> 73, Wayne
>