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Chris W7CTH
Can you remote into the K3 from the internet and talk on your rig?

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Re: internet remote to K3

Don Wilhelm-4
Chris,

I have not tried it, but Ham Radio Deluxe has a 'remote' mode that can
be used to provide control of the radio, and Skype (or similar) can
provide the audio path.  Of course, a computer is required at each end.  
There are likely other radio control applications that can provide
remote radio control, but I am most familiar with HRD.

So the answer is YES - but the devil is in the details.  The software
configuration is your challenge to set-up.  HRD has pretty good
documentation, and Simon is usually responsive to questions in case of
difficulty.

For more direct access to the K3 from a remote location (such as loading
new firmware, adding macros, and other things that K3 Utility can do), I
would suggest that you use one of the VNC applications - I particularly
like UltraVNC available from www.sourceforge.net.  The latency involved
with using UltraVNC to control the K3 (by operating the computer at the
K3 site) may make that unusable for actual on-the-air operating time,
but is handy for remotely controlling the software applications on the
computer located at the K3 site - for instance, one can use UltraVNC to
log onto the computer and launch applications such as HRD and Skype (or
most anything else).  If one wants to get fancy, you can even shut down
the K3 using the Power off command through the serial communications
port, and then shut down the computer too.  The computer can be set up
for Wake On LAN, and the K3 powered on by a device that brings the K3
ACC Remote Power On pin low (that part takes some external hardware).  
The possibilities are endless - whatever you can do from a computer
local to the K3 can also be done remotely from anywhere on the globe.

73,
Don W3FPR

Chris Hembree wrote:
> Can you remote into the K3 from the internet and talk on your rig?
>
> Chris W7CTH
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Re: internet remote to K3

Jay S
Here is a document I found that explains how to setup remote control
for a rig using Ham Radio Deluxe.  I haven't tried this, but I have it
bookmarked because I plan to try it at some point.  This document
talks about Ham Radio Deluxe remote mode and Skype.

http://www.mmsn.org/RemoteControl.pdf

73
Jay
W9IUF

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Chris,
>
> I have not tried it, but Ham Radio Deluxe has a 'remote' mode that can
> be used to provide control of the radio, and Skype (or similar) can
> provide the audio path.  Of course, a computer is required at each end.
> There are likely other radio control applications that can provide
> remote radio control, but I am most familiar with HRD.
>
> So the answer is YES - but the devil is in the details.  The software
> configuration is your challenge to set-up.  HRD has pretty good
> documentation, and Simon is usually responsive to questions in case of
> difficulty.
>
> For more direct access to the K3 from a remote location (such as loading
> new firmware, adding macros, and other things that K3 Utility can do), I
> would suggest that you use one of the VNC applications - I particularly
> like UltraVNC available from www.sourceforge.net.  The latency involved
> with using UltraVNC to control the K3 (by operating the computer at the
> K3 site) may make that unusable for actual on-the-air operating time,
> but is handy for remotely controlling the software applications on the
> computer located at the K3 site - for instance, one can use UltraVNC to
> log onto the computer and launch applications such as HRD and Skype (or
> most anything else).  If one wants to get fancy, you can even shut down
> the K3 using the Power off command through the serial communications
> port, and then shut down the computer too.  The computer can be set up
> for Wake On LAN, and the K3 powered on by a device that brings the K3
> ACC Remote Power On pin low (that part takes some external hardware).
> The possibilities are endless - whatever you can do from a computer
> local to the K3 can also be done remotely from anywhere on the globe.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> Chris Hembree wrote:
>> Can you remote into the K3 from the internet and talk on your rig?
>>
>> Chris W7CTH
>>
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Re: internet remote to K3

Bjorn
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On 30 mar 2010, at 05.18, Chris Hembree wrote:

> Can you remote into the K3 from the internet and talk on your rig?
>
> Chris W7CTH

Yes you can. There are several paths to take, most of the including software like Ham Radio Deluxe but also at least two options using hardware to solve some of the communication between the station and control location.

I have been using both TRX-Manager and HRD with my K3 and they work fine, although not as stable as I would like things to be. Also the setup is complicated, turning on the radio has never been more complicated and the one-click-power-on approach has not really been implemented in those complex software packages. I have also used N1MM to control my K3 via a HRD serial server connection and it works very well, still a complicated setup.

All those software solutions lacks is the audio link and they assume you will use Skype or another VoIP solution for transferring RX and TX audio. I have found Skype convenient and easy to setup and use, but rather worthless when chasing weak DX because of the codecs, audio gating and auto leveling. Skype is simply optimized for telephony, not to carry SSB and CW information hidden i hight levels of background noise. The alternative is to use IPSound which requires a bit of work in setting it up, but you have a pick-list of audio codecs to customize the audio link for your needs. It also lets you transfer stereo sound for using the sub RX or diversity.

The other area where most software packages lacks are in CW. I have successfully used a Winkeyer USB in the station location, keying the station using macros and keyboard entry of messages. I am now trying to finds the best solution to use paddles in the control end of the link. Winkeyer recently released a server software enabling one Winkeyer to talk to another. I have not made it work properly yet, CW is choppy and some characters are dropped along the way. Guess I need to spend more time tuning the setup. The other option including CW is a hardware remote control system called Remoterig. It handles more than just CW, it is a complete solution including data communication, audio and CW. For the K3 you still need a computer in the control end, but with radios like the IC-706 Remoterig lets you replace the control cable between the front panel and the radio with an IP link eliminating the need of computers.

I am hoping that Elecraft will consider a way to remote control the K3 via a hardware interface, ie. using one K3 to control another or simply a K3 front panel turned into a hardware controller usable with those hardware modems.

Here are the links to the above mentioned stuff;

HRD: http://www.ham-radio-deluxe.com/
TRX: http://trx-manager.com/
Winkeyer: http://k1el.com/
Remoterig: http://remoterig.com/
IPSound: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/ham-radio-manuals/
Skype: http://www.skype.com/

Have fun!

73 de Björn,
SM0MDG
SE0X






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Re: internet remote to K3

Tom Azlin N4ZPT
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Good options have been mentioned. Another option is the RemoteRig
equipment at http://www.remoterig.com/ where one of the selections is
for Elecraft radios.

I have one but will be using it with my ts-480 that is over in a
different state.

73, Tom n4zpt

Chris Hembree wrote:
> Can you remote into the K3 from the internet and talk on your rig?
>
> Chris W7CTH
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