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k2 offset frequency, and FISTS

gwwhatley@juno.com
Q #1: why is 500-600 hz offset reccommended by the manual.?  What's wrong with, say, 750 hz?
 
Q #2:  What is, or who are the FISTS ops, and what freqs?  Is this a joke?
Tks, George, N4YM
 
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RE: k2 offset frequency, and FISTS

Don Wilhelm-3
George,

A#1: There is nothing wrong with 750 Hz if that suits your ears better.
Most of us feel that is too high for comfort.  In fact, that pitch was
'forced' on us by earlier transceivers that tried to use the same BFO
crystal for both SSB and CW.  Thankfully, the K2 and K1 give us a choice.
Just be certain to do all your filter alignment around the higher pitch or
you may find your more narrow filters unusable.

On #2, you will have to ask someine associated with FISTS, I am not.

73,
Don W3FPR

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> Q #1: why is 500-600 hz offset reccommended by the manual.?
> What's wrong with, say, 750 hz?
>
> Q #2:  What is, or who are the FISTS ops, and what freqs?  Is this a joke?
> Tks, George, N4YM
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RE: k2 offset frequency, and FISTS

Mark, KJ7BS
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George,

Check out http://www.fists.org.  FISTS is a CW operators club (world wide).
They have a "code buddy" program to help one improve operating and speed.  

The FISTS calling frequencies are as follows:

2m     144.058 MHz
6m       50.058 MHz
10m*    28.058 MHz
12m     24.918 MHz
15m*    21.058 MHz
17m     18.085 MHz
20m*    14.058 MHz
30m     10.118 MHz
40m*      7.028 MHz  --  All IARU Regions
40m       7.058 MHz  --  IARU Region 2
80m*      3.558 MHz
160m*    1.808 MHz

U.S. Novice sub-bands
10m     28.158 MHz
15m     21.158 MHz
40m       7.118 MHz
80m       3.708 MHz

Nets are as follows:

Weekly Nets
Sunday Century Award Net
1500 EST/2000 UTC
1500 EDT/1900 UTC
14.058

Sunday Slow Speed Chat
1700 UTC
21.158

Tuesday Slow Traffic Net
2100 EST/0200 UTC
2100 EDT/0100 UTC
3.682

Thursday Slow Traffic Net
2100 EST/0200 UTC
2100 EDT/0100 UTC
3.682

Saturday QSO Groups
2000 UTC
14.058

2300 UTC
7.058

Mark Saunders, KJ7BS
Glendale, AZ
<><><><><><><><><>
FISTS # 2972
Elecraft k2 S/n 539
<><><><><><><><><>
If it aint fun,
You aint doing it right.
AZ ScQRPions

 

 

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Q #1: why is 500-600 hz offset reccommended by the manual.?  What's wrong
with, say, 750 hz?
 
Q #2:  What is, or who are the FISTS ops, and what freqs?  Is this a joke?
Tks, George, N4YM
 
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Re: k2 offset frequency, and FISTS

k6dgw
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 > Q #1: why is 500-600 hz offset reccommended by the manual.?  What's
 > wrong with, say, 750 hz?

I have no idea

 > Q #2:  What is, or who are the FISTS ops, and what freqs?

FISTS is an international society for the preservation of Morse code
(which, if there were any justice in the world, would be called the Vail
code).  Members tend to congregate 50 to 55 KHz above the bottom of the
band.  You can join (can't remember the price), and you get a number
which you can exchange with other members for various forms of fame (no
fortune, unfortunately).  My number is 11151.  FISTS members will
usually match your speed so it's a fairly good way to get in some CW
practice if you need it.

 > Is this a joke?

No.  SOC is the joke.  My SOC number is 633, although it doesn't seem to
matter much except in the SOC marathon, where it also doesn't seem to
matter.  SOC does not do fame or fortune.

Any more questions?

Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA CM98lw

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Re: k2 offset frequency, and FISTS

Mark J. Schreiner
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Thanks for the info on FISTS.  So, this prompts another question.  Since
14.060 is the QRP frequency and (before I had my K2) while operating
rockbound at 14.060 I heard many folks instead of calling CQ and signing
QRP they were looking for other FISTS.  Why do they use 14.060 instead
of their published 14.058?  I generally don't answer them if they are
specifically calling for FISTS, but do they answer calls otherwise as
well?  I'm sure there are many QRP/FISTS members here as well that may
be able to clear this up for me.

Mark, NK8Q
K2 4786
RockMite-40 & -20

KJ7BS wrote:

>
>
>The FISTS calling frequencies are as follows:
>
>
>20m*    14.058 MHz
>
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>  
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Re: k2 offset frequency, and FISTS

Larry Makoski W2LJ
Mark,

I never call "CQ FISTS" unless it's a FISTS contest; and that may be
what you heard.  When there's a contest going on, everyone has to spread
out a bit.

Mosts FISTS will QSO with anyone, whether they're a FISTS member or
not,  Heck, it's a good recruitment tool!  Unfortunately, I have heard
of instances where fellow FISTS, hellbent on collecting FISTS numbers,
have refused and have only hurriedly QSOd with a non-member.  
Fortunately, I can count the number of times I have heard this on the
fingers of one hand.

For the most part, the folks I know from FISTS are 'salt of the earth"
types of folks and will QRS to a slower speed, if you need.

73 de Larry W2LJ

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RE: FISTS

Steven Pituch
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Hi Mark,
It best to join FISTS and get a membership number.  The number is good for
life even if you subscribe for only a year.  This way you can CQ with anyone
nearby on frequency.  14.058 and 14.060 are only guidelines.  Activity can
be plus or minus due to propagation, RFI, ongoing QSOs, etc.  At his QTH he
may hear something on 14.058 that you can't hear, so its an unusuable
frequency for him.  FISTS is really a nice group of people.  Remember that
during the QRP foxhunts we try to take up from 7.030 all the way up to
7.050, so we don't stick to our one gentleman's agreement frequancy either.
;0)

If you want to get Worked All States with your Rockmites, having a FIST
number can be really beneficial.

Regards,
Steve, W2MY

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Thanks for the info on FISTS.  So, this prompts another question.  Since
14.060 is the QRP frequency and (before I had my K2) while operating
rockbound at 14.060 I heard many folks instead of calling CQ and signing QRP
they were looking for other FISTS.  Why do they use 14.060 instead of their
published 14.058?  I generally don't answer them if they are specifically
calling for FISTS, but do they answer calls otherwise as well?  I'm sure
there are many QRP/FISTS members here as well that may be able to clear this
up for me.

Mark, NK8Q
K2 4786
RockMite-40 & -20

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Hi current/low power out on 20 meters w KPA100

W6IZT
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What was the final resolution to the high current/low power out condition? I
swapped C80 and C81, but this did not cure the problem. I recall someone
saying that the problem was with  two resistors (r20/21?). Is this the case?

73
Gregg

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Re: Hi current/low power out on 20 meters w KPA100

Ted Turk
Gregg,

The problem appears to have been a batch of 1.6 ohm metal film
resistors (R19,20) that had 6 turns and produced a weak 10MHz or
thereabouts trap with C80,81 (4700pF).  I believe Elecraft have sourced
some resistors with lower inductance.  For the Brits, locally obtained
Vishay resistors (Farnell Part No; 550-012) worked.  I could only get
1.5 ohm in 2W power rating but they had 1.25 turns and therefore only
1/23rd of the calculated inductance.  After fitting I reset the drive
bias.  The problem was initially identified by changing C80,81 and a
temporary cure effected by increasing the values to 5600pF or, in some
cases, 6800pF.

Scott at parts has the best American solution.

73
Ted G7BQM K2#4732

On 11 Oct 2005, at 01:54, Gregg W6IZT wrote:

> What was the final resolution to the high current/low power out
> condition? I
> swapped C80 and C81, but this did not cure the problem. I recall
> someone
> saying that the problem was with  two resistors (r20/21?). Is this the
> case?
>
> 73
> Gregg
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Re: k2 offset frequency, and FISTS

Gordon Gibson-2
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Fred

What is SOC ?

73 de Gordon G3ZFZ (fists nr 2866)

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> FISTS is an international society for the preservation of Morse code
> (which, if there were any justice in the world, would be called the Vail
> code).  Members tend to congregate 50 to 55 KHz above the bottom of the
> band.  You can join (can't remember the price), and you get a number
> which you can exchange with other members for various forms of fame (no
> fortune, unfortunately).  My number is 11151.  FISTS members will
> usually match your speed so it's a fairly good way to get in some CW
> practice if you need it.
>
> > Is this a joke?
>
> No.  SOC is the joke.  My SOC number is 633, although it doesn't seem to
> matter much except in the SOC marathon, where it also doesn't seem to
> matter.  SOC does not do fame or fortune.
>
> Any more questions?
>
> Fred K6DGW
> Auburn CA CM98lw
>

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Re: k2 offset frequency, and FISTS

Bob Nielsen

On Oct 11, 2005, at 10:05 AM, Gordon Gibson wrote:
> What is SOC ?

http://www.qsl.net/soc

73, Bob N7XY

SOC #77


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Re: k2 offset frequency, and FISTS

k6dgw
SOC is the acronym for the "Second Class Operators' Club," where
"competence is tolerated but not encouraged."  <www.qsl.net/soc/>  You
can join and receive many good things, such as a number that you can do
many things with.  Well, actually ... a number is all you get, and you
can't do anything with it except send it to someone else who probably
doesn't care and will miscopy it anyway.  There are no dues.  This is
primarily because no one who wants to be a member has been found who can
serve in the role of Treasurer ... or who can count well for that
matter.  SOC members tend to bust their own calls in contests -- at
least those who can tell time and actually get IN the contest do.  Hope
this helps.

37,

Fred K6DGW
SOC #633 (or maybe 366 or possibly 636, or maybe 11115 [which may or may
not be my FISTS number])

Bob Nielsen wrote:

>
> On Oct 11, 2005, at 10:05 AM, Gordon Gibson wrote:
>
>> What is SOC ?
>
>
> http://www.qsl.net/soc
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> 73, Bob N7XY
>
> SOC #77
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Re: k2 offset frequency, and FISTS

roncasa
heh heh

Ron
SOC # 344 or is it 433 or is it .....

Fred Jensen wrote:

> SOC is the acronym for the "Second Class Operators' Club," where
> "competence is tolerated but not encouraged."  <www.qsl.net/soc/>  You
> can join and receive many good things, such as a number that you can do
> many things with.  Well, actually ... a number is all you get, and you
> can't do anything with it except send it to someone else who probably
> doesn't care and will miscopy it anyway.  There are no dues.  This is
> primarily because no one who wants to be a member has been found who can
> serve in the role of Treasurer ... or who can count well for that
> matter.  SOC members tend to bust their own calls in contests -- at
> least those who can tell time and actually get IN the contest do.  Hope
> this helps.
>
> 37,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> SOC #633 (or maybe 366 or possibly 636, or maybe 11115 [which may or may
> not be my FISTS number])
>
> Bob Nielsen wrote:
>
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2005, at 10:05 AM, Gordon Gibson wrote:
>>
>>> What is SOC ?
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.qsl.net/soc
>>
>> 73, Bob N7XY
>>
>> SOC #77
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Re: k2 offset frequency, and FISTS

Kevin Rock
We can too count: One, .... , ahhh ... more, a whole bunch, many.  See!!
    Kevin.  SOC # %(#

> Fred Jensen wrote:
>> SOC is the acronym for the "Second Class Operators' Club," where
>> "competence is tolerated but not encouraged."  <www.qsl.net/soc/>  You
>> can join and receive many good things, such as a number that you can do
>> many things with.  Well, actually ... a number is all you get, and you
>> can't do anything with it except send it to someone else who probably
>> doesn't care and will miscopy it anyway.  There are no dues.  This is
>> primarily because no one who wants to be a member has been found who
>> can serve in the role of Treasurer ... or who can count well for that
>> matter.  SOC members tend to bust their own calls in contests -- at
>> least those who can tell time and actually get IN the contest do.  Hope
>> this helps.
>>
>> 37,
>>
>> Fred K6DGW
>> SOC #633 (or maybe 366 or possibly 636, or maybe 11115 [which may or
>> may not be my FISTS number])


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hank  k8dd-2
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ron wrote:
> heh heh
>
> Ron
> SOC # 344 or is it 433 or is it .....
>
>
And my SOC number is the same when I'm standing on my
feet and when I'm standing on my head .....

Hank
SOC #69

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k6dgw
Hank Kohl K8DD wrote:
 > ... and when I'm standing on my head

a common resting position for a SOC member

Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA CM98lw
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