My feelings entirely Todd, a great loss.
73 Roger MW0IDX > To my friends on the Elecraft reflector: > > I usually sit quietly monitoring the Elecraft reflector traffic, ignoring > most of it, but ALWAYS reading any post by W3FPR. Don's posts have been > very helpful to me over the past 11 years and I know many others and I > would not have solved some difficult technical problems without his gracious > help. It is very sad to me that this has happened no matter who is right or > wrong. I would kindly ask that list members carefully consider what they > type or say....maybe give it an hours time before hitting the send key. If > Don leaves the reflector it is a huge loss to all of us whether members > realize it or not. > > Thanks for your time, and especially, Thanks to Don. > > 73, > Todd, WA7U > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Sam Morgan" <[hidden email]> > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:40 AM > To: <[hidden email]> > Cc: <[hidden email]>; "lstavenhagen" <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k2 pll and ref osc issues n0xdb > > >> Don Wilhelm wrote: >> >>> No personal information was posted, it was only publically available >>> information easily obtained from QRZ.com, and also in the FCC database. >>> I don't see that a name and call are "personal information" >>> >>> However, it won't happen again. If anyone wants my assistance, it will >>> have to be by direct email. >>> [hidden email] or [hidden email] will direct email to me - no more >>> public posts after this one. >>> This is going to save me a LOT of time! >>> >>> >> I'd like to give a big shout out thanks >> to all the reflector nannys, >> for depriving myself and others on the list, >> from future opportunities to learn from Don's wealth of knowledge, >> way to go folks, you knew what was going to happen, >> before you mounted your soapboxes to beat your chests! >> >> yea I shouldn't have said the above, >> but it needed saying! >> >> /me slithers back into my rf proofed black hole >> -- >> GB & 73 >> K5OAI >> Sam Morgan >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
I certainly agree with everything that has been said in Don's favor and
defense, and it would be a tragic loss if he were to leave the reflector permanently. Personally, I suspect he will probably reconsider and come back at some point in the not-too-distant future, and I hope that he does. IMO, Don did nothing wrong or deserving of censure. Opinions have been expressed, some perhaps in a less-than-artful manner, but it's over -- and hopefully once everybody calms down, Don will be back with us. Hopefully. Bill W5WVO -------------------------------------------------- From: "Roger Dallimore" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 2:00 PM To: "T Gahagan" <[hidden email]> Cc: "Elecraft List" <[hidden email]> Subject: [Elecraft] In Reference to: k2 pll and ref osc issues n0xdb > My feelings entirely Todd, a great loss. > > 73 > Roger MW0IDX >> To my friends on the Elecraft reflector: >> >> I usually sit quietly monitoring the Elecraft reflector traffic, ignoring >> most of it, but ALWAYS reading any post by W3FPR. Don's posts have been >> very helpful to me over the past 11 years and I know many others and I >> would not have solved some difficult technical problems without his >> gracious >> help. It is very sad to me that this has happened no matter who is right >> or >> wrong. I would kindly ask that list members carefully consider what they >> type or say....maybe give it an hours time before hitting the send key. >> If >> Don leaves the reflector it is a huge loss to all of us whether members >> realize it or not. >> >> Thanks for your time, and especially, Thanks to Don. >> >> 73, >> Todd, WA7U >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Sam Morgan" <[hidden email]> >> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:40 AM >> To: <[hidden email]> >> Cc: <[hidden email]>; "lstavenhagen" <[hidden email]> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k2 pll and ref osc issues n0xdb >> >> >>> Don Wilhelm wrote: >>> >>>> No personal information was posted, it was only publically available >>>> information easily obtained from QRZ.com, and also in the FCC database. >>>> I don't see that a name and call are "personal information" >>>> >>>> However, it won't happen again. If anyone wants my assistance, it will >>>> have to be by direct email. >>>> [hidden email] or [hidden email] will direct email to me - no more >>>> public posts after this one. >>>> This is going to save me a LOT of time! >>>> >>>> >>> I'd like to give a big shout out thanks >>> to all the reflector nannys, >>> for depriving myself and others on the list, >>> from future opportunities to learn from Don's wealth of knowledge, >>> way to go folks, you knew what was going to happen, >>> before you mounted your soapboxes to beat your chests! >>> >>> yea I shouldn't have said the above, >>> but it needed saying! >>> >>> /me slithers back into my rf proofed black hole >>> -- >>> GB & 73 >>> K5OAI >>> Sam Morgan >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >>> >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Both of your postings are out of line with list guidelines. Please refrain from any more critical posts. While real names and callsigns are helpful, they are not required here. 73, Eric WA6HHQ List Moderator _..._ "The Smiths" <[hidden email]> wrote: > > >Don, > >I found it VERY rude and out of place that you chose to "OUT" someone for being anonymous in their posts to this group. It is NOT your place to choose who should put their call at the end of their posts. If someone chooses not to sign their emails that is their right. I don't recall Eric or others that run this group indicating that it is a necessity. > >Some people find that it is more comfortable for them to leave comments, or suggestions without others knowing who they are. Either for security, safety or ANY reason for that matter. > >For you to not only give out someone's call sign, but to actually go as far as print out their entire name for everyone on this group to read, when they have intentionally left it off their post is completely without tact. I'm sorry I'm coming down on you so hard. I know that you do good work for this group in answering questions, you've even answered a few for me... But I just don't feel that what you did in this post was of good taste. The anonymous should REMAIN anonymous unless they choose to give their call letters or otherwise. Just my rant. Thanks for reading. > > > > >> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:07:31 -0400 >> From: [hidden email] >> To: [hidden email] >> CC: [hidden email]; [hidden email] >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k2 pll and ref osc issues n0xdb >> >> Foxjazz, >> >> (Eric may chastise me for this post because he, not I, is the list >> "policeman", but I will do it anyway). >> >> OK, I have learned from another ham here on the reflector that you do >> have a call and I looked up your name on QRZ.com. N0XDB - Joseph T. >> Dickerson III. >> Would you please use it on your subsequent emails to the reflector? It >> will make you seem more like a human and a ham as opposed to some troll >> or someone who wants to remain anonymous. >> >> In addition, I notice that you start your emails with "Hello >> Elecraft,". We here on the Elecraft reflector are *not* Elecraft. We >> are a group of Elecraft owners, or prospective Elecraft owners. Many of >> us are willing to help you as best we can, but we are certainly not the >> official Elecraft support organization. If you wish to reach Elecraft >> support, the proper email is [hidden email], and if you wish to >> reach sales, it is [hidden email]. >> >> It is a fact that some (but not the majority) of the Elecraft employees >> (and Eric and Wayne as owners) often monitor this reflector, but there >> is no guarantee of that. If your intent is to reach "the real >> Elecraft", you should send email direct rather than to this reflector. >> >> Yes, I *do* repair work for Elecraft, and to that extent, I am an >> Elecraft employee, but I am paid only for the actual repair work I do. >> Any support I provide here on this reflector is not a task for which I >> have been "Elecraft authorized" or for which I receive compensation, and >> my comments are not official. I volunteer my time and comments here >> only as one ham helping out another ham - there is nothing "Elecraft >> Official" in my postings here on the reflector, they reflect only my own >> views and experiences. I have had extensive experience with many of the >> Elecraft products, and am willing to share whatever knowledge I have >> with other hams in an effort to help them with whatever problem they are >> having. If I do not feel I can help, I normally will not post a reply. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> Foxjazz wrote: >> > Hello Elecraft, >> > >> > Hello Don, >> > >> > >> > I had the pll working before I did phase 3 and put the ssb board in. >> > >> > It was working great, now it isn't. I thought I would run a quick >> > voltage test before continuing. Now the pll freq is 0.000 >> > >> > I reviewed the test results and re-tinned T5 just to ensure good >> > conductivity. >> > >> > When I ran the resistance checks the base resistence of Q6 was at >> > 372 ohms not 100-140 as the book says. >> > >> > the unit turns on draws 0.24 amps >> > >> > 0.22 without the ssb board in. >> > >> > Why would the pll circuit just quit working, would q20 have anything >> > to do with it? >> > >> > The voltages at q18 are a bit high. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I had the pll vol >> > >> > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >_________________________________________________________________ >Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. 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