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Eric Manning
I put the knob from my defunct ICOM 740 on my K2.

Very nice in every way altho it hides one
of the little ^ symbols on the display.

eric
VA7DZ

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Re: knobs

David Pratt
No!  No!  Not knobs again, please!

The original knobs on the K1, KX1, K2 & K3 are all aesthetically and
ergonomically perfect.

In a recent message, eric manning <[hidden email]> wrote ...
>
>I put the knob from my defunct ICOM 740 on my K2.
>
>Very nice in every way altho it hides one
>of the little ^ symbols on the display.
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Re: knobs

K2QI
Perhaps to you, but maybe not for everyone else. ;-)

73 de James K2QI

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Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 1:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] knobs

No!  No!  Not knobs again, please!

The original knobs on the K1, KX1, K2 & K3 are all aesthetically and
ergonomically perfect.
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Leeds, England, UK
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Re: knobs

hf4me
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Just like kids jacking up their cars, cutting holes in the hoods, and
painting flames behind the wheels. THEY think it looks neat but later they
can't even give the goofy looking thing away.

I like my tuning knob to spin too so I just built it not touching the felt.
I scan with my finger or thumb just touching the face of the knob, not in
the dimple, they don't work for me.  Works just fine.  Does not need to be
heavier, bigger, shiny, lighted, flashing, heated, pink, or polka-dot.

73, de Jim KG0KP

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pratt" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 12:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] knobs


> No!  No!  Not knobs again, please!
>
> The original knobs on the K1, KX1, K2 & K3 are all aesthetically and
> ergonomically perfect.
>
> In a recent message, eric manning <[hidden email]> wrote ...
>>
>>I put the knob from my defunct ICOM 740 on my K2.
>>
>>Very nice in every way altho it hides one
>>of the little ^ symbols on the display.
> --
> David G4DMP
> Leeds, England, UK
> ------
>
>
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Re: knobs

Doug Turnbull
Tastes vary, the subject is to do with Elecraft products and we have a
delete keys. In time the thread will terminate.  

      73 Doug EI2CN




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Re: knobs

Gary Gregory
Can't come soon enough...[?]

73's
Gary

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For everything else there's Mastercard!!!

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Re: knobs

Rick Prather-2
Some threads should be labeled "Zombie Threads"

You just can't kill 'em..

Rick
K6LE

On 5/2/2010, at 8:37 , Gary Gregory wrote:

> Can't come soon enough...[?]
>
> 73's
> Gary
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Doug Turnbull <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Tastes vary, the subject is to do with Elecraft products and we have a
>> delete keys. In time the thread will terminate.
>>
>>     73 Doug EI2CN
>>
>>

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K2 RS-232 Interface

Elliott Lawrence-3
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I've read the KIO2 operating instruction for use with the K2 but I am not
clear on the following:

Does the K2 put out VFOA frequency information on the pin 2 TXD and pin3 RXD
lines continuously?  Does it need to be polled to obtain this info?  I want
to use it with a Steppir interface that works perfectly with the K3!!

Thanks for any responses,
73
Elliott WA6TLA

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Re: K2 RS-232 Interface

Jim Brown-10
On Sun, 2 May 2010 12:02:33 -0700, Elliott Lawrence wrote:

>Does the K2 put out VFOA frequency information on the pin 2 TXD and pin3
RXD
>lines continuously?  Does it need to be polled to obtain this info?  I want
>to use it with a Steppir interface that works perfectly with the K3!!

Nearly all radios and ham logging software use only pins 2, 3, and signal
return for radio control and information. The K2 uses the other pins on its
DB9 connector for other functions that are VERY different from the RS232
standard.

The SteppIR controller I own (the newer SDR100) monitors the serial line for
frequency instructions sent from the computer control program to the radio,
and will change frequency to follow those instructions. I don't believe that
it gets frequency info from the radio. Or perhaps it doesn't when there's a
computer controlling the radio.

To clarify that, to make the SteppIR change frequency, I must use my logging
software to tune the radio. For example, in N1MM (and in several others) I
can send the radio to a frequency (14050 kHz, for example) by typing 14050
into the entry window. I can also change bands with <CTRL> <PG UP> and
<CTRL> <PG DN>. In both cases, the SteppIR controller will follow it. But if
I change bands on the radio, the SteppIR controller doesn't move.

I don't know if the SteppIR controller works with the K2. You should call
them and ask. When I was getting mine set up, I had several conversations
with their support guy, and he was quite helpful.

73,

Jim K9YC


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Re: K2 RS-232 Interface

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

The SteppIR controller should work using the "Kenwood" settings *IF*
you configure the K2 for AI1.  Please refer to the K2 Programmers
Reference available from the Elecraft web site.

You will need a cable that connects ONLY TxD (pin 2) and ground
(pin5) from the K2 to pin 2 and pin 5 of the SteppIR "Data In"
connector.  The SteppIR end of the cable will also require a
jumper between  pins 7 and 9.  The same cable works with the K3.

If you are not able to configure the K2 for AI1 operation, you
will need the SteppIR "Y" cable and a logging program that can
poll the K2.  The considerations are identical for either the
K2 or K3.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 5/3/2010 12:50 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

> On Sun, 2 May 2010 12:02:33 -0700, Elliott Lawrence wrote:
>
>> Does the K2 put out VFOA frequency information on the pin 2 TXD and pin3
> RXD
>> lines continuously?  Does it need to be polled to obtain this info?  I want
>> to use it with a Steppir interface that works perfectly with the K3!!
>
> Nearly all radios and ham logging software use only pins 2, 3, and signal
> return for radio control and information. The K2 uses the other pins on its
> DB9 connector for other functions that are VERY different from the RS232
> standard.
>
> The SteppIR controller I own (the newer SDR100) monitors the serial line for
> frequency instructions sent from the computer control program to the radio,
> and will change frequency to follow those instructions. I don't believe that
> it gets frequency info from the radio. Or perhaps it doesn't when there's a
> computer controlling the radio.
>
> To clarify that, to make the SteppIR change frequency, I must use my logging
> software to tune the radio. For example, in N1MM (and in several others) I
> can send the radio to a frequency (14050 kHz, for example) by typing 14050
> into the entry window. I can also change bands with<CTRL>  <PG UP>  and
> <CTRL>  <PG DN>. In both cases, the SteppIR controller will follow it. But if
> I change bands on the radio, the SteppIR controller doesn't move.
>
> I don't know if the SteppIR controller works with the K2. You should call
> them and ask. When I was getting mine set up, I had several conversations
> with their support guy, and he was quite helpful.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim K9YC
>
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Re: K2 RS-232 Interface

Phil Kane-2
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On 5/3/2010 9:50 AM, Jim Brown wrote:

> Nearly all radios and ham logging software use only pins 2, 3,
> and signal return for radio control and information. The K2 uses
> the other pins on its DB9 connector for other functions that are
> VERY different from the RS232 standard.

  I'm using MixW as my data and logging program with my K2/100
  and the KIO2 "special cable" for several years now.  Up to now
  I haven't been using the CAT function for frequency tracking,
  but I do want to start.  The COM port works fine for PTT rig
  control.

  Pardon me if I ask a "newbie" question, but what settings in
  the K2 menu do I have to check/change to implement this.  If
  it's documented somewhere please point me to it.

  With thanks.

--  73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
    Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Re: K2 RS-232 Interface

Don Wilhelm-4
Phil,

For the K2, the PTT function can be done using the K2 CAT command set if
your PC application implements it.  Normally applications implement PTT
and keying through the DTR and RTS signal lines on the RS-232
interface.  Since the K2 implementation of the AUX I/O connector uses
the pins that would normally connect to the DTR and RTS signals for
internal K2 signaling lines, those pins must not be connected to a
serial port signal, and detection of DTR and/or RTS active must be done
externally to the K2.  That is usually accomplished using a simple
transistor, diode and resistor circuit like that mentioned in the
Digipan (and other PSK31 applications) documentation.  An optoisolater
is also commonly used to develop PTT or keying closures if there is a
need to isolate the computer ground from the K2 ground.

Note for K3 users - the K3 does allow attachment of a standard serial
cable to its RS-232 connector and will detect DTR or RTS active for PTT
or keying whichever is selected in the K3 menu (make certain your
solftware application and the K3 agree about which line is for which
purpose).

73,
Don W3FPR.

Phil Kane wrote:

> On 5/3/2010 9:50 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
>
>  
>> Nearly all radios and ham logging software use only pins 2, 3,
>> and signal return for radio control and information. The K2 uses
>> the other pins on its DB9 connector for other functions that are
>> VERY different from the RS232 standard.
>>    
>
>   I'm using MixW as my data and logging program with my K2/100
>   and the KIO2 "special cable" for several years now.  Up to now
>   I haven't been using the CAT function for frequency tracking,
>   but I do want to start.  The COM port works fine for PTT rig
>   control.
>
>   Pardon me if I ask a "newbie" question, but what settings in
>   the K2 menu do I have to check/change to implement this.  If
>   it's documented somewhere please point me to it.
>
>   With thanks.
>
> --  73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
>     Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
>
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