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Jorge Diez - CX6VM-2
Hello

I do digital modes with two cables from K3´s LINE IN and OUT to MIC and
PHONES on my old laptop

Looking for a new Laptop, I notice they combine MIC and PHONE in ONLY ONE
3.5 mm connector

Any problem with that?  Just need a Y cable to connect LIN IN and OUT in K3
and on the other side a 3.5 mm audio connector to connect in the laptop and
all will be working correctly?

Or is better to stay with a laptop with two separates connectors for MIC
and PHONE?

thanks
Jorge
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Re: line IN and OUT on new computer

Don Wilhelm
Jorge,

With an adapter, it makes little difference.
But consider an external USB soundcard for your digital modes.
They can be purchased inexpensively, and as long as you set the internal
soundcard to be default, you do not have to worry about transmitting the
sounds produced by the operating system.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/12/2017 9:12 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:

> Hello
>
> I do digital modes with two cables from K3´s LINE IN and OUT to MIC and
> PHONES on my old laptop
>
> Looking for a new Laptop, I notice they combine MIC and PHONE in ONLY ONE
> 3.5 mm connector
>
> Any problem with that?  Just need a Y cable to connect LIN IN and OUT in K3
> and on the other side a 3.5 mm audio connector to connect in the laptop and
> all will be working correctly?
>
> Or is better to stay with a laptop with two separates connectors for MIC
> and PHONE?
>
> thanks
> Jorge
> CX6VM/CW5W
>
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Re: line IN and OUT on new computer

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Hi Jorge,The "Y"connector will not work, There is a very specific connector with three rings and a tip needed for that single new style jack on the laptops because that jack incorporates both a mono input for the mic and a stereo output for the headphones. A very specific connector I found that works is the Sennheiser, part no. PCV 05, called Combo Audio Adapter with a produce code of 504518. That part has worked well for me. I found that part at a Fry's Electronics in Austin, TX. An alternative is buy a cheap gaming headset that utilizes that single jack and splice in the mono plug for the mic and the stereo plug for the headphone to go to the K3.
I hope this helps.
73, Mike WA5POK
 

    On Saturday, August 12, 2017 8:14 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM <[hidden email]> wrote:
 

 Hello

I do digital modes with two cables from K3´s LINE IN and OUT to MIC and
PHONES on my old laptop

Looking for a new Laptop, I notice they combine MIC and PHONE in ONLY ONE
3.5 mm connector

Any problem with that?  Just need a Y cable to connect LIN IN and OUT in K3
and on the other side a 3.5 mm audio connector to connect in the laptop and
all will be working correctly?

Or is better to stay with a laptop with two separates connectors for MIC
and PHONE?

thanks
Jorge
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Re: line IN and OUT on new computer

Mike Furrey
Yes, that is the one I have. There are probably less expensive ones I could have ordered but I needed it "NOW" and bought it off the shelf. It works well for me with a new laptop and Windows 10 (Ugh).
Mike

    On Saturday, August 12, 2017 9:07 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM <[hidden email]> wrote:
 

 Hello Mike
thanks very much for the informations
Is this one?  https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-PCV-05-Combo-Adapter/dp/B00IM36VU0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1502546701&sr=8-2&keywords=sennheiser+pcv+05+combo+audio+adapter
73,Jorge
 
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2017-08-12 10:52 GMT-03:00 Mike Furrey <[hidden email]>:

Hi Jorge,The "Y"connector will not work, There is a very specific connector with three rings and a tip needed for that single new style jack on the laptops because that jack incorporates both a mono input for the mic and a stereo output for the headphones. A very specific connector I found that works is the Sennheiser, part no. PCV 05, called Combo Audio Adapter with a produce code of 504518. That part has worked well for me. I found that part at a Fry's Electronics in Austin, TX. An alternative is buy a cheap gaming headset that utilizes that single jack and splice in the mono plug for the mic and the stereo plug for the headphone to go to the K3.
I hope this helps.
73, Mike WA5POK
 

    On Saturday, August 12, 2017 8:14 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM <[hidden email]> wrote:
 

 Hello

I do digital modes with two cables from K3´s LINE IN and OUT to MIC and
PHONES on my old laptop

Looking for a new Laptop, I notice they combine MIC and PHONE in ONLY ONE
3.5 mm connector

Any problem with that?  Just need a Y cable to connect LIN IN and OUT in K3
and on the other side a 3.5 mm audio connector to connect in the laptop and
all will be working correctly?

Or is better to stay with a laptop with two separates connectors for MIC
and PHONE?

thanks
Jorge
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Re: line IN and OUT on new computer

Jorge Diez - CX6VM-2
thanks Mike and Don for the help!

Will be good to have this adapter also

73,
Jorge

2017-08-12 11:29 GMT-03:00 Mike Furrey <[hidden email]>:

> Yes, that is the one I have. There are probably less expensive ones I
> could have ordered but I needed it "NOW" and bought it off the shelf. It
> works well for me with a new laptop and Windows 10 (Ugh).
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Saturday, August 12, 2017 9:07 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Mike
>
> thanks very much for the informations
>
> Is this one?  https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-PCV-05-Combo-
> Adapter/dp/B00IM36VU0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1502546701&sr=
> 8-2&keywords=sennheiser+pcv+05+combo+audio+adapter
>
> 73,
> Jorge
>
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> 2017-08-12 10:52 GMT-03:00 Mike Furrey <[hidden email]>:
>
> Hi Jorge,
> The "Y"connector will not work, There is a very specific connector with
> three rings and a tip needed for that single new style jack on the laptops
> because that jack incorporates both a mono input for the mic and a stereo
> output for the headphones. A very specific connector I found that works is
> the Sennheiser, part no. PCV 05, called Combo Audio Adapter with a produce
> code of 504518. That part has worked well for me. I found that part at a
> Fry's Electronics in Austin, TX. An alternative is buy a cheap gaming
> headset that utilizes that single jack and splice in the mono plug for the
> mic and the stereo plug for the headphone to go to the K3.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> 73, Mike WA5POK
>
>
> On Saturday, August 12, 2017 8:14 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> Hello
>
> I do digital modes with two cables from K3´s LINE IN and OUT to MIC and
> PHONES on my old laptop
>
> Looking for a new Laptop, I notice they combine MIC and PHONE in ONLY ONE
> 3.5 mm connector
>
> Any problem with that?  Just need a Y cable to connect LIN IN and OUT in K3
> and on the other side a 3.5 mm audio connector to connect in the laptop and
> all will be working correctly?
>
> Or is better to stay with a laptop with two separates connectors for MIC
> and PHONE?
>
> thanks
> Jorge
> CX6VM/CW5W
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Re: line IN and OUT on new computer

Peter Wollan-2
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I read the Q&A about this -- it turns out there are several different
standards which look the same externally. This one is OMTP;  for a Mac, you
need CTIA. They differ in the mic and ground connection. There is also
TRRS. I don't know what that one is.

So don't just buy one of these adapters without checking what your socket
is.

     Peter W0LLN


On Saturday, August 12, 2017, Mike Furrey <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Yes, that is the one I have. There are probably less expensive ones I
> could have ordered but I needed it "NOW" and bought it off the shelf. It
> works well for me with a new laptop and Windows 10 (Ugh).
> Mike
>
>     On Saturday, August 12, 2017 9:07 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM <
> [hidden email] <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
>
>  Hello Mike
> thanks very much for the informations
> Is this one?  https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-PCV-05-Combo-
> Adapter/dp/B00IM36VU0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1502546701&sr=
> 8-2&keywords=sennheiser+pcv+05+combo+audio+adapter
> 73,Jorge
>
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>
>
> 2017-08-12 10:52 GMT-03:00 Mike Furrey <[hidden email] <javascript:;>
> >:
>
> Hi Jorge,The "Y"connector will not work, There is a very specific
> connector with three rings and a tip needed for that single new style jack
> on the laptops because that jack incorporates both a mono input for the mic
> and a stereo output for the headphones. A very specific connector I found
> that works is the Sennheiser, part no. PCV 05, called Combo Audio Adapter
> with a produce code of 504518. That part has worked well for me. I found
> that part at a Fry's Electronics in Austin, TX. An alternative is buy a
> cheap gaming headset that utilizes that single jack and splice in the mono
> plug for the mic and the stereo plug for the headphone to go to the K3.
> I hope this helps.
> 73, Mike WA5POK
>
>
>     On Saturday, August 12, 2017 8:14 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM <
> [hidden email] <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
>
>  Hello
>
> I do digital modes with two cables from K3´s LINE IN and OUT to MIC and
> PHONES on my old laptop
>
> Looking for a new Laptop, I notice they combine MIC and PHONE in ONLY ONE
> 3.5 mm connector
>
> Any problem with that?  Just need a Y cable to connect LIN IN and OUT in K3
> and on the other side a 3.5 mm audio connector to connect in the laptop and
> all will be working correctly?
>
> Or is better to stay with a laptop with two separates connectors for MIC
> and PHONE?
>
> thanks
> Jorge
> CX6VM/CW5W
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Re: line IN and OUT on new computer

Neil Zampella
FWIW ... I do a lot of JT65/JT9/FT8 digital, and I would definitely
suggest getting an external USB soundcard for such work.

1.  It eliminates the probably of transmitting any OS
sounds/beeps/alarms along with your digital audio.
2.  Provides good isolation capabilities
3.  While I'm assuming most built-in laptop soundcards can provide the
48kHz DVD quality playback/recording you need for programs like WSJT-X,
you definitely will have that in many of the external soundcards.     I
use a Sound Blaster SBX proaudio soundcard I got a Amazon for around
$60-65.  I've used it with my IC-715, and KX3 without any issues.

Neil, KN3ILZ


On 8/12/2017 10:47 AM, Peter Wollan wrote:

> I read the Q&A about this -- it turns out there are several different
> standards which look the same externally. This one is OMTP;  for a Mac, you
> need CTIA. They differ in the mic and ground connection. There is also
> TRRS. I don't know what that one is.
>
> So don't just buy one of these adapters without checking what your socket
> is.
>
>       Peter W0LLN
>
>
> On Saturday, August 12, 2017, Mike Furrey <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, that is the one I have. There are probably less expensive ones I
>> could have ordered but I needed it "NOW" and bought it off the shelf. It
>> works well for me with a new laptop and Windows 10 (Ugh).
>> Mike
>>
>>      On Saturday, August 12, 2017 9:07 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM <
>> [hidden email] <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>   Hello Mike
>> thanks very much for the informations
>> Is this one?  https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-PCV-05-Combo-
>> Adapter/dp/B00IM36VU0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1502546701&sr=
>> 8-2&keywords=sennheiser+pcv+05+combo+audio+adapter
>> 73,Jorge
>>
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>>
>> 2017-08-12 10:52 GMT-03:00 Mike Furrey <[hidden email] <javascript:;>
>>> :
>> Hi Jorge,The "Y"connector will not work, There is a very specific
>> connector with three rings and a tip needed for that single new style jack
>> on the laptops because that jack incorporates both a mono input for the mic
>> and a stereo output for the headphones. A very specific connector I found
>> that works is the Sennheiser, part no. PCV 05, called Combo Audio Adapter
>> with a produce code of 504518. That part has worked well for me. I found
>> that part at a Fry's Electronics in Austin, TX. An alternative is buy a
>> cheap gaming headset that utilizes that single jack and splice in the mono
>> plug for the mic and the stereo plug for the headphone to go to the K3.
>> I hope this helps.
>> 73, Mike WA5POK
>>
>>
>>      On Saturday, August 12, 2017 8:14 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM <
>> [hidden email] <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>   Hello
>>
>> I do digital modes with two cables from K3´s LINE IN and OUT to MIC and
>> PHONES on my old laptop
>>
>> Looking for a new Laptop, I notice they combine MIC and PHONE in ONLY ONE
>> 3.5 mm connector
>>
>> Any problem with that?  Just need a Y cable to connect LIN IN and OUT in K3
>> and on the other side a 3.5 mm audio connector to connect in the laptop and
>> all will be working correctly?
>>
>> Or is better to stay with a laptop with two separates connectors for MIC
>> and PHONE?
>>
>> thanks
>> Jorge
>> CX6VM/CW5W
>>
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Re: line IN and OUT on new computer

Jorge Diez - CX6VM-2
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Thanks Peter to point that

Mine in not a Mac, so this one that is OMTP  will work, I hope :-)

thanks!
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2017-08-12 11:47 GMT-03:00 Peter Wollan <[hidden email]>:

> I read the Q&A about this -- it turns out there are several different
> standards which look the same externally. This one is OMTP;  for a Mac, you
> need CTIA. They differ in the mic and ground connection. There is also
> TRRS. I don't know what that one is.
>
> So don't just buy one of these adapters without checking what your socket
> is.
>
>      Peter W0LLN
>
>
> On Saturday, August 12, 2017, Mike Furrey <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, that is the one I have. There are probably less expensive ones I
>> could have ordered but I needed it "NOW" and bought it off the shelf. It
>> works well for me with a new laptop and Windows 10 (Ugh).
>> Mike
>>
>>     On Saturday, August 12, 2017 9:07 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  Hello Mike
>> thanks very much for the informations
>> Is this one?  https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-PCV-05-Combo-Adapter/dp/
>> B00IM36VU0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1502546701&sr=8-2&
>> keywords=sennheiser+pcv+05+combo+audio+adapter
>> 73,Jorge
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-PCV-05-Combo-Adapter/dp/B00IM36VU0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1502546701&sr=8-2&keywords=sennheiser+pcv+05+combo+audio+adapter73,Jorge>
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>> 2017-08-12 10:52 GMT-03:00 Mike Furrey <[hidden email]>:
>>
>> Hi Jorge,The "Y"connector will not work, There is a very specific
>> connector with three rings and a tip needed for that single new style jack
>> on the laptops because that jack incorporates both a mono input for the mic
>> and a stereo output for the headphones. A very specific connector I found
>> that works is the Sennheiser, part no. PCV 05, called Combo Audio Adapter
>> with a produce code of 504518. That part has worked well for me. I found
>> that part at a Fry's Electronics in Austin, TX. An alternative is buy a
>> cheap gaming headset that utilizes that single jack and splice in the mono
>> plug for the mic and the stereo plug for the headphone to go to the K3.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>> 73, Mike WA5POK
>>
>>
>>     On Saturday, August 12, 2017 8:14 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  Hello
>>
>> I do digital modes with two cables from K3´s LINE IN and OUT to MIC and
>> PHONES on my old laptop
>>
>> Looking for a new Laptop, I notice they combine MIC and PHONE in ONLY ONE
>> 3.5 mm connector
>>
>> Any problem with that?  Just need a Y cable to connect LIN IN and OUT in
>> K3
>> and on the other side a 3.5 mm audio connector to connect in the laptop
>> and
>> all will be working correctly?
>>
>> Or is better to stay with a laptop with two separates connectors for MIC
>> and PHONE?
>>
>> thanks
>> Jorge
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Re: line IN and OUT on new computer

Josh Fiden
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Completely agree re ext USB audio.

No specific endorsement of this model, just an example that there are many high quality (I'd call this "prosumer") USB interfaces for remarkably low prices. Mackie is a well respected pro audio company & this interface on sale $69. Might have to get or make patch cables as it's 1/4" phone.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/stupid?source=3TP5DNB&mscr=2084068_38175

Considering the availability of pro quality for comparable prices, I'd opt for something like this or from other similar companies like Tascam, etc (see K9YC's list) over a consumer Sound Blaster.

73,
Josh W6XU

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> On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Neil Zampella <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> FWIW ... I do a lot of JT65/JT9/FT8 digital, and I would definitely suggest getting an external USB soundcard for such work.
>
> 1.  It eliminates the probably of transmitting any OS sounds/beeps/alarms along with your digital audio.
> 2.  Provides good isolation capabilities
> 3.  While I'm assuming most built-in laptop soundcards can provide the 48kHz DVD quality playback/recording you need for programs like WSJT-X, you definitely will have that in many of the external soundcards.     I use a Sound Blaster SBX proaudio soundcard I got a Amazon for around $60-65.  I've used it with my IC-715, and KX3 without any issues.
>
> Neil, KN3ILZ
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Re: line IN and OUT on new computer

Jim Brown-10
Hi Josh,

Yes, this is a super deal. Mackie is a good audio company. I've used and
specified their products for years. I've been out of the biz for long
enough that I didn't know about this one.

73, Jim K9YC

On 8/12/2017 2:23 PM, Josh wrote:

> Completely agree re ext USB audio.
>
> No specific endorsement of this model, just an example that there are many high quality (I'd call this "prosumer") USB interfaces for remarkably low prices. Mackie is a well respected pro audio company & this interface on sale $69. Might have to get or make patch cables as it's 1/4" phone.
>
> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/stupid?source=3TP5DNB&mscr=2084068_38175
>
> Considering the availability of pro quality for comparable prices, I'd opt for something like this or from other similar companies like Tascam, etc (see K9YC's list) over a consumer Sound Blaster.
>
> 73,
> Josh W6XU
>
> Sent from my mobile device
>
>> On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Neil Zampella <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> FWIW ... I do a lot of JT65/JT9/FT8 digital, and I would definitely suggest getting an external USB soundcard for such work.
>>
>> 1.  It eliminates the probably of transmitting any OS sounds/beeps/alarms along with your digital audio.
>> 2.  Provides good isolation capabilities
>> 3.  While I'm assuming most built-in laptop soundcards can provide the 48kHz DVD quality playback/recording you need for programs like WSJT-X, you definitely will have that in many of the external soundcards.     I use a Sound Blaster SBX proaudio soundcard I got a Amazon for around $60-65.  I've used it with my IC-715, and KX3 without any issues.
>>
>> Neil, KN3ILZ
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Re: line IN and OUT on new computer

Jorge Diez - CX6VM-2
Hi Josh and Jim

this is a recording interface?, so may it be used for example for WRTC
recording and for referee listening to both radios as required in the
rules?

73,
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2017-08-12 20:37 GMT-03:00 Jim Brown <[hidden email]>:

> Hi Josh,
>
> Yes, this is a super deal. Mackie is a good audio company. I've used and
> specified their products for years. I've been out of the biz for long
> enough that I didn't know about this one.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
> On 8/12/2017 2:23 PM, Josh wrote:
>
>> Completely agree re ext USB audio.
>>
>> No specific endorsement of this model, just an example that there are
>> many high quality (I'd call this "prosumer") USB interfaces for remarkably
>> low prices. Mackie is a well respected pro audio company & this interface
>> on sale $69. Might have to get or make patch cables as it's 1/4" phone.
>>
>> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/stupid?source=3TP5DNB&mscr=2084068_38175
>>
>> Considering the availability of pro quality for comparable prices, I'd
>> opt for something like this or from other similar companies like Tascam,
>> etc (see K9YC's list) over a consumer Sound Blaster.
>>
>> 73,
>> Josh W6XU
>>
>> Sent from my mobile device
>>
>> On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Neil Zampella <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> FWIW ... I do a lot of JT65/JT9/FT8 digital, and I would definitely
>>> suggest getting an external USB soundcard for such work.
>>>
>>> 1.  It eliminates the probably of transmitting any OS
>>> sounds/beeps/alarms along with your digital audio.
>>> 2.  Provides good isolation capabilities
>>> 3.  While I'm assuming most built-in laptop soundcards can provide the
>>> 48kHz DVD quality playback/recording you need for programs like WSJT-X, you
>>> definitely will have that in many of the external soundcards.     I use a
>>> Sound Blaster SBX proaudio soundcard I got a Amazon for around $60-65.
>>> I've used it with my IC-715, and KX3 without any issues.
>>>
>>> Neil, KN3ILZ
>>>
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Re: line IN and OUT on new computer

Clay Autery-2
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That is PRECISELY the unit I am using with my custom condenser mic....
Absolutely LOVE it...  Best value in prosumer audio bar none, IMHO.
Think I paid $99 regular price... $69 is a steal...  great value at full
price.


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On 8/12/2017 6:37 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

> Hi Josh,
>
> Yes, this is a super deal. Mackie is a good audio company. I've used
> and specified their products for years. I've been out of the biz for
> long enough that I didn't know about this one.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
> On 8/12/2017 2:23 PM, Josh wrote:
>> Completely agree re ext USB audio.
>>
>> No specific endorsement of this model, just an example that there are
>> many high quality (I'd call this "prosumer") USB interfaces for
>> remarkably low prices. Mackie is a well respected pro audio company &
>> this interface on sale $69. Might have to get or make patch cables as
>> it's 1/4" phone.
>>
>> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/stupid?source=3TP5DNB&mscr=2084068_38175
>>
>> Considering the availability of pro quality for comparable prices,
>> I'd opt for something like this or from other similar companies like
>> Tascam, etc (see K9YC's list) over a consumer Sound Blaster.
>>
>> 73,
>> Josh W6XU
>>
>> Sent from my mobile device
>>
>>> On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Neil Zampella <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> FWIW ... I do a lot of JT65/JT9/FT8 digital, and I would definitely
>>> suggest getting an external USB soundcard for such work.
>>>
>>> 1.  It eliminates the probably of transmitting any OS
>>> sounds/beeps/alarms along with your digital audio.
>>> 2.  Provides good isolation capabilities
>>> 3.  While I'm assuming most built-in laptop soundcards can provide
>>> the 48kHz DVD quality playback/recording you need for programs like
>>> WSJT-X, you definitely will have that in many of the external
>>> soundcards.     I use a Sound Blaster SBX proaudio soundcard I got a
>>> Amazon for around $60-65.  I've used it with my IC-715, and KX3
>>> without any issues.
>>>
>>> Neil, KN3ILZ
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Re: line IN and OUT on new computer

Lyle Johnson
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Note that Mackie claims driver support for this product only through Win
7 (Win 8 is specifically not supported which may imply Win 10 isn't,
either), and MacOS through 10.10 (Yosemite)  -- later MacOS releases are
specifically not supported.

Which doesn't mean it won't work, but this is from the Mackie website a
few minutes ago.

Anyone here tested this interface on these later OSes?  Be good to
confirm before I click on the order button before the sale ends in a few
hours...  I already have a good USB sound interface that won't work on
later-than-XP OSes (not sure about Mac).

73,

Lyle KK7P


On 8/12/17 4:37 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

> Hi Josh,
>
> Yes, this is a super deal. Mackie is a good audio company. I've used
> and specified their products for years. I've been out of the biz for
> long enough that I didn't know about this one.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
> On 8/12/2017 2:23 PM, Josh wrote:
>> Completely agree re ext USB audio.
>>
>> No specific endorsement of this model, just an example that there are
>> many high quality (I'd call this "prosumer") USB interfaces for
>> remarkably low prices. Mackie is a well respected pro audio company &
>> this interface on sale $69. Might have to get or make patch cables as
>> it's 1/4" phone.
>>
>> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/stupid?source=3TP5DNB&mscr=2084068_38175
>>
>> Considering the availability of pro quality for comparable prices,
>> I'd opt for something like this or from other similar companies like
>> Tascam, etc (see K9YC's list) over a consumer Sound Blaster.
>>
>> 73,
>> Josh W6XU
>>
>> Sent from my mobile device
>>
>>> On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Neil Zampella <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> FWIW ... I do a lot of JT65/JT9/FT8 digital, and I would definitely
>>> suggest getting an external USB soundcard for such work.
>>>
>>> 1.  It eliminates the probably of transmitting any OS
>>> sounds/beeps/alarms along with your digital audio.
>>> 2.  Provides good isolation capabilities
>>> 3.  While I'm assuming most built-in laptop soundcards can provide
>>> the 48kHz DVD quality playback/recording you need for programs like
>>> WSJT-X, you definitely will have that in many of the external
>>> soundcards.     I use a Sound Blaster SBX proaudio soundcard I got a
>>> Amazon for around $60-65.  I've used it with my IC-715, and KX3
>>> without any issues.
>>>
>>> Neil, KN3ILZ
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Re: line IN and OUT on new computer

Jim Brown-10
Good catch, Lyle!

73, Jim K9YC

On 8/12/2017 6:28 PM, Lyle Johnson wrote:
> Note that Mackie claims driver support for this product only through
> Win 7 (Win 8 is specifically not supported which may imply Win 10
> isn't, either), and MacOS through 10.10 (Yosemite)  -- later MacOS
> releases are specifically not supported.
>
> Which doesn't mean it won't work, but this is from the Mackie website
> a few minutes ago.


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Re: line IN and OUT on new computer

Josh Fiden
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Specs say Audio 1.0 so I wonder if it works with the generic USB driver?

MF has a 30 day no questions return policy. So, you could send it back if it's not supported.

73,
Josh W6XU

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> On Aug 12, 2017, at 6:28 PM, Lyle Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Note that Mackie claims driver support for this product only through Win 7 (Win 8 is specifically not supported which may imply Win 10 isn't, either), and MacOS through 10.10 (Yosemite)  -- later MacOS releases are specifically not supported.
>
> Which doesn't mean it won't work, but this is from the Mackie website a few minutes ago.
>
> Anyone here tested this interface on these later OSes?  Be good to confirm before I click on the order button before the sale ends in a few hours...  I already have a good USB sound interface that won't work on later-than-XP OSes (not sure about Mac).
>
> 73,
>
> Lyle KK7P
>
>
>> On 8/12/17 4:37 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>> Hi Josh,
>>
>> Yes, this is a super deal. Mackie is a good audio company. I've used and specified their products for years. I've been out of the biz for long enough that I didn't know about this one.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>
>>> On 8/12/2017 2:23 PM, Josh wrote:
>>> Completely agree re ext USB audio.
>>>
>>> No specific endorsement of this model, just an example that there are many high quality (I'd call this "prosumer") USB interfaces for remarkably low prices. Mackie is a well respected pro audio company & this interface on sale $69. Might have to get or make patch cables as it's 1/4" phone.
>>>
>>> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/stupid?source=3TP5DNB&mscr=2084068_38175
>>>
>>> Considering the availability of pro quality for comparable prices, I'd opt for something like this or from other similar companies like Tascam, etc (see K9YC's list) over a consumer Sound Blaster.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Josh W6XU
>>>
>>> Sent from my mobile device
>>>
>>>> On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Neil Zampella <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> FWIW ... I do a lot of JT65/JT9/FT8 digital, and I would definitely suggest getting an external USB soundcard for such work.
>>>>
>>>> 1.  It eliminates the probably of transmitting any OS sounds/beeps/alarms along with your digital audio.
>>>> 2.  Provides good isolation capabilities
>>>> 3.  While I'm assuming most built-in laptop soundcards can provide the 48kHz DVD quality playback/recording you need for programs like WSJT-X, you definitely will have that in many of the external soundcards.     I use a Sound Blaster SBX proaudio soundcard I got a Amazon for around $60-65.  I've used it with my IC-715, and KX3 without any issues.
>>>>
>>>> Neil, KN3ILZ
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Re: line IN and OUT on new computer

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I've used a Griffin iMic "sound card" for years on Macs, iMacs and Mac laptops.

iMic | The original USB audio adapter by Griffin Technology <https://griffintechnology.com/us/imic>

No drivers necessary. Stereo L/R channels for dual RX audio decoding.

It works with the Mac digi mode program cocoaModem.

I recently started using WSJTX and the iMic just worked.

Inexpensive. True plug and play. Any problems have been S/W settings, not the I/O.

Griffin advertises PC compatibility but I've no experience with an iMic and a PC but I wouldn't hesitate to try it.

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Re: line IN and OUT on new computer

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On 8/12/2017 10:12 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Griffin advertises PC compatibility but I've no experience with an
> iMic and a PC but I wouldn't hesitate to try it.

Been using that arrangement for many years (with my K2, of course) with
excellent results.  Just needed a simple mono/stereo in-line adapter for
the mono "fixed audio" output from the add-on board designed by Don
Wilhem (w3fpr).

Those adapters are very common and inexpensive.   My source:
http://www.pchcables.com/57129.html  (I have no financial investment in
that company, just a very satisfied local customer).

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Re: line IN and OUT on new computer

Ross Primrose
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I've had great luck with the iMic on windows 7 & 8.1, never tired 10.  
Also works great with every version of Linux I've tried.

73, Ross N4RP

On 8/13/2017 1:12 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Griffin advertises PC compatibility but I've no experience with an iMic and a PC but I wouldn't hesitate to try it.
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> GL - Steve WB6RSE
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Re: line IN and OUT on new computer

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

iMic is supported by the standard "USB Audio Device" driver on Windows,
iOS and LINUX.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 8/14/2017 9:22 AM, Ross Primrose wrote:

> I've had great luck with the iMic on windows 7 & 8.1, never tired 10.
> Also works great with every version of Linux I've tried.
>
> 73, Ross N4RP
>
> On 8/13/2017 1:12 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>> Griffin advertises PC compatibility but I've no experience with an
>> iMic and a PC but I wouldn't hesitate to try it.
>>
>> GL - Steve WB6RSE
>>
>>
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