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PLEASE don't suggest that, you never know what you might get from them after
some of the things they have done lately. Fred/N0AZZ -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 7:46 PM To: rwm rwmr Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] missed market Well, this was good for a laugh, anyway. Go ahead with your nationwide petition, even send it to the White House if you like. If it's written anything like this Email, bet it won't get very far. Actually, even if it's written better than this Email, it won't get very far, as others have very correctly and succinctly pointed out. "Wow" is about the same reaction as I had. It was, anyway, a valiant attempt. At humor if at nothing else. Merry Christmas, or something. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Dec 14, 2012, at 6:18 AM, rwm rwmr <[hidden email]> wrote: > You guys missed a Big Part of the Market.. > You have a Great radio in the Portable K3X.. > > With Recent Hurricane Sandy.. > Correct me if i am Wrong.. > > Ham Radios are supposed to offer one ability to carry on Emergency contacts.. > Both for owner of radio ( for themselves and their family) As well as > working with various local/regional emergency services.. > > So that within a Crisis happening.. > Communications can be kept going where all other forms fail (like how > home and cell phones and power outages...that went on for at least a > week and up to still lack of power and phone service in some spots of > NY and NJ as direct result of Hurricane Sandy ) > > Yet even though your K3X offers no more then 10 watts output (with > external battery pack...5 watts in using internal batteries) > > Yet even though i asked.. > You refused to do a firmware upgrade so not only is the K3X be usable on > > I could understand if it was a 100 watt or such radio. > Fact is though it is clearly Not.. > > The K3X is a Perfect radio for emergency use.. > Yet you CLEARLY leave out and refuse to allow one to use it on some of > the most used local frequency's that would enable one to remain in > contact with local people ( for themselves as well as surrounding > community) > > This is Indeed a Very Big Over Sight. > This is Also a Very Poor attitude.. > > It seems you people are so Hard Core with offering High Quality Radios > Then when you Design a merging of SDR radio with a regular radio and Not requiring a PC hook up.. > Offering a Huge advantage that other companies can only Hope to so > offer ( but can not ) However in one of the Most Important aspects..You Also Drop the Ball.. > > Will you Re consider ? > Or do i need to start a Petition on a National scale (even bringing it > to the white house if need be) In order to get this done with a simple > 5 watt portable radio ? > > By the way > > Yes i am a ham radio operator. > > Owning a 706 MKIIG..IC-7000 .. AR-3500 .. RCI 2970 .. IC-R3 .. DR235 > .. ID800 .. ID-1 .. T90a .. ID-91AD .. THF-6a various tuners..various > > until recently with hurricane Sandy.. > create RC5 antenna rotor .. 2 meter,70 cm and 1.25 meter beams .. tribander 2 meter/70 cm/23cm vertical and 5/8 wave ground plane 11 meter antenna.. > > Thankfully i had many batteries for my HT's and plenty of antennas for them.. > For as it turned out it was my ONLY means of communication to the > outside world for 9 or 10 days (pay phones..home phones..cell phones > were all useless..power was out .. all for over a week) > > I clearly would have befitted with battery operated able HF ( yes 11 > meters as well ) Even though via UHF i got out as far as 70 miles with > just my HT and HT antennas ( i had to go to to top of walkway on the > bayonne bridge to get out beyond 10 miles during the first week to 2 > weeks ) I can easily get a Buddy Pole portable HF antenna to use with the K3X. > > So as i Now am still repairing my roof ( it still leaks like a lot > any time it rains now ) I am Now also looking to re create my antenna > farm ( i likely can salvage my 70 cm beam..all the others are > trash..also lost a good deal of LDF5-50a and LDF7-50a coax feedline ) > So while re doing my antenna farm for base operations.. > I am also looking to further update my portable/backpack gear. > (seems i also have to bite the bullet and get a car again.. thus > getting needed antennas for whatever car i get as well.. i have kept > away from driving for 20 years..but hurricane sandy showed if i needed > to bail/evacuate on my own..without driving on my own.. well it turned > out it was not possible) > > Bob Muller > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On 12/14/2012 05:31 AM, Robert Vargas (KP4Y) wrote:
> I looked at my KX3 this morning and the mere though of seeing it being used as a CB radio sent chills down my spine...yeah, buy one of those "walkie talkie" style CB radios if you want the portability, I had one before becoming a "ham". Unless, you are really seeking bragging rights at the next CB club meeting. ;-) I would love it if such a good radio could be made to work at all frequencies. The only thing preventing the TX circuit from working at 27 MHz is the software. I realize this is because of the FCC, but it's unfortunate the FCC is requiring purchase of separate devices for separate bands. It completely goes against the modern idea of "convergence", where one device can be made to do the work of two or more older devices. The KX3 would make a great CB. Similarly, my VHF/UHF HT would easily make a great FRS/GPRS radio as well, allowing me to reach a wider audience and communicate with non-hams easily. However, the FCC requires purchase of a bunch of different redundant radios instead of allowing manufacture of a rather cool "all-in-one" unit. Unfortunately, there is no technical solution to what is a political problem.... Josh K6JSH ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Here we go again.................... Bob K6UJ On Dec 16, 2012, at 6:10 PM, Josh Lehan wrote: > On 12/14/2012 05:31 AM, Robert Vargas (KP4Y) wrote: >> I looked at my KX3 this morning and the mere though of seeing it being used as a CB radio sent chills down my spine...yeah, buy one of those "walkie talkie" style CB radios if you want the portability, I had one before becoming a "ham". Unless, you are really seeking bragging rights at the next CB club meeting. ;-) > > I would love it if such a good radio could be made to work at all > frequencies. The only thing preventing the TX circuit from working at > 27 MHz is the software. I realize this is because of the FCC, but it's > unfortunate the FCC is requiring purchase of separate devices for > separate bands. It completely goes against the modern idea of > "convergence", where one device can be made to do the work of two or > more older devices. The KX3 would make a great CB. Similarly, my > VHF/UHF HT would easily make a great FRS/GPRS radio as well, allowing me > to reach a wider audience and communicate with non-hams easily. > > However, the FCC requires purchase of a bunch of different redundant > radios instead of allowing manufacture of a rather cool "all-in-one" > unit. Unfortunately, there is no technical solution to what is a > political problem.... > > Josh > K6JSH > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Dec 16, 2012, at 9:10 PM, Josh Lehan <[hidden email]> wrote: > I would love it if such a good radio could be made to work at all > frequencies...It's > unfortunate the FCC is requiring purchase of separate devices for > separate bands. Unfortunately, there is no technical solution to what is a > political problem.... Sorry, I don't see it as a "political" problem. It's a "societal" problem. Far too many CBers are dedicated, consumate law-breakers, and that's been true ever since they were first given access to the 27 MHz band. So I strongly support FCC measures to make it harder for that group of outlaws to get access to equipment their licenses don't allow them to have. Admittedly, it was stupid to open an ionospheric-skip band to a supposedly line-of-sight service, but to call it a political problem is to blame a homeowner for leaving his door unlocked when vandals steal from him. Ahhhh....the age of entitlement; I love it! Bud, W2RU ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Guys - end of thread.
Eric Moderator www.elecraft.com _..._ On Dec 16, 2012, at 7:58 PM, "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Josh, K6JSH wrote: > > "... it's unfortunate the FCC is requiring purchase of separate devices for > separate bands...." > > No, it's a separate *service* not just a different band. ... ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On 12/16/2012 7:40 PM, W2RU - Bud Hippisley wrote:
> Admittedly, it was stupid to open an ionospheric-skip band to a supposedly line-of-sight service, The CB Radio Service was created when the 11-meter band was reallocated internationally to "Industrial, Scientific, and Medical" services (ISM) - in essence, an electronic garbage can used by diathermy machines, industrial heat sealers, and similar non-communications radiators. As such, the FCC felt that if the new users can make communications in that mess, it's all theirs. The first CB users were rather law-abiding -- that went downhill in the mid-1960s. During the 1960s it was very common to hear such signals sweeping through the band. The main reason that we don't hear them today is that they were usually using unfiltered DC, and rich in harmonics. The third harmonic fell in the aviation bands, and caused harmful interference. The FCC had a very extensive effort to close down such devices - in fact, they were the only devices that an FCC enforcement agent could order closed down on the spot with no notice or hearing. The sweep was due to heat sealers (think waterbed mattresses) changing frequency as the material - the dielectric in a capacitor so to speak - changing as it heated up. Those devices were required to be used in shielded rooms or at other frequencies, usually the ISM microwave bands. So much for that history lesson - "I was there". 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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