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efortner

new to list with new K3s

Hi, I have now finished the kits and have the K3s, KPA 500, P3 and KAT 500
antenna tuner. Have all up and running and working fine.

After getting all this hooked up I find myself without a port for computer
control of the K3s with my logging and cluster control.

I don't use HRD. What is the simplest route to get my USB Signal link and
logging programs linked to the radio with my computer?

Regards, Earl K4KAY

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Re: new to list with new K3s

If I understand what you are saying.
The K3S doesn't require the USB Signal link because it has it build in. The
USB on the back of the K3s supports the audio and computer control. The audo
will show up in audio recording and playback devices, while the CAT control
will show up as a local serial comm port.

As far as I know the K3 utility from Elecraft supports the datamodes.
Depending on your logging/cluster control software radio integration your
setup may require a comm port bridge like LP-Bridge or such.

Really need to know exactly what you have, what you're running
(applications, windows/mac/linux..etc..), how it's connected, and what the
end result is expected to be.

Jerry Moore
CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists
AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB
An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and
Patriotic.

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efortner
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:28 PM
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Subject: [Elecraft] new to list with new K3s

Hi, I have now finished the kits and have the K3s, KPA 500, P3 and KAT 500
antenna tuner. Have all up and running and working fine.

After getting all this hooked up I find myself without a port for computer
control of the K3s with my logging and cluster control.

I don't use HRD. What is the simplest route to get my USB Signal link and
logging programs linked to the radio with my computer?

Regards, Earl K4KAY

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efortner

Re: new to list with new K3s

I have the K3s, KAP 500, P3 and KAT 500 all connected per the manual.
Windows 7 and use Log4OM and DX Cluster, run SSB, CW, Rtty and plan on doing
digital. I have had no success connecting to Log4OM using the usb com port
on the top left of back side of K3s but no problem with downloads from
Elecraft.
Earl, K4KAY

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Moore [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
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Subject: RE: [Elecraft] new to list with new K3s

If I understand what you are saying.
The K3S doesn't require the USB Signal link because it has it build in. The
USB on the back of the K3s supports the audio and computer control. The audo
will show up in audio recording and playback devices, while the CAT control
will show up as a local serial comm port.

As far as I know the K3 utility from Elecraft supports the datamodes.
Depending on your logging/cluster control software radio integration your
setup may require a comm port bridge like LP-Bridge or such.

Really need to know exactly what you have, what you're running
(applications, windows/mac/linux..etc..), how it's connected, and what the
end result is expected to be.

Jerry Moore
CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists
AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB
An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and
Patriotic.

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efortner
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:28 PM
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Subject: [Elecraft] new to list with new K3s

Hi, I have now finished the kits and have the K3s, KPA 500, P3 and KAT 500
antenna tuner. Have all up and running and working fine.

After getting all this hooked up I find myself without a port for computer
control of the K3s with my logging and cluster control.

I don't use HRD. What is the simplest route to get my USB Signal link and
logging programs linked to the radio with my computer?

Regards, Earl K4KAY

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Wes (N7WS)

Re: new to list with new K3s

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LP-Bridge. But you don't need the Signalink.

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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: new to list with new K3s

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Earl,

If you have only one software application (a logger for instance), then
you can connect it to the COM port formed by the K3S USB connection.
Your SignaLink does not use a COM port, it is basically a USB
soundcard. If you have run out of USB ports, you can use a USB hub
(best if it is a powered hub).

If OTOH, you have multiple software applications that want to connect to
the K3S ...
Use a software application that provides virtual ports. LP-Bridge from
www.telepostinc.com is one that works well - except it does not yet
support Unicode and will not work with Ham Radio Deluxe ver 6 (it does
work with HRD 5).
That will allow you to connect with your logger and other software
applications. LP-Bridge connects to the K3 and the other applications
connect to the virtual ports of LP-Bridge.

Lots of support for LPB available on the LP-Pan Yahoo Group.
Note that there is an LPB2, and that is *not* an update to LP-Bridge.
LP-Bridge is K3 specific, LPB2 is for support of other transceivers.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/16/2015 1:28 PM, efortner wrote:

> Hi, I have now finished the kits and have the K3s, KPA 500, P3 and KAT 500
> antenna tuner. Have all up and running and working fine.
>
> After getting all this hooked up I find myself without a port for computer
> control of the K3s with my logging and cluster control.
>
> I don't use HRD. What is the simplest route to get my USB Signal link and
> logging programs linked to the radio with my computer?
>
>
>
> Regards, Earl K4KAY
>
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Peter Pauly

Re: new to list with new K3s

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You'll need to enable the USB interface in the menu (RS232). Elecraft probably should have made USB the default on the K3S.

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> On Oct 16, 2015, at 12:28, efortner <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi, I have now finished the kits and have the K3s, KPA 500, P3 and KAT 500
> antenna tuner. Have all up and running and working fine.
>
> After getting all this hooked up I find myself without a port for computer
> control of the K3s with my logging and cluster control.
>
> I don't use HRD. What is the simplest route to get my USB Signal link and
> logging programs linked to the radio with my computer?
>
>
>
> Regards, Earl K4KAY
>
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KX3 - easiest way to panadapt?

I have a KX3. I would like to use my computer and laptop ( Windows 7 and
Windows 8 ) to display a spectrum from my KX3, using the RX I/Q output.
What is the simplest and recommended easiest way to do this? NaP3 ?

I use my KX3 mostly on digital modes .... with SignaLink USB interface and
sometimes with just the laptop soundcard interface.

Ed K7AAT

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Barry K3NDM

Re: KX3 - easiest way to panadapt?

Ed,
You will need to buy one additional bit, a good sound card. NaP3 is
a good product, It's really an earlier version of PowerSDR than is out
today. It is free, but you will want to download LP-Bridge, not Bridge2.
This will allow you to integrate your logging and digital software with
what you have your KX3 doing.

I used this initially and was quite happy. I later switched to the
Win4K3 suite which costs $50, but it does offer some real advantages.
First you can use com0com , which is free, for your port replication.
This setup has been less problem prone on my system over NaP3 and
LP-Bridge. Second, you have more control of your KX3.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "Ed via Elecraft" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: 10/16/2015 6:24:37 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 - easiest way to panadapt?

>
>I have a KX3. I would like to use my computer and laptop ( Windows 7
>and
>Windows 8 ) to display a spectrum from my KX3, using the RX I/Q output.
>What is the simplest and recommended easiest way to do this? NaP3 ?
>
>I use my KX3 mostly on digital modes .... with SignaLink USB interface
>and
>sometimes with just the laptop soundcard interface.
>
>Ed K7AAT
>
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Re: KX3 - easiest way to panadapt?

Thank you, Barry. Your information is about what I was looking for. I understand the need for a better soundcard if I use NaP3 .... because of the stereo microphone input issue, I believe?? I do not currently use logging software.... just a PSK31 program called AirLink Express. I also just want to be able to look at the frequencies a few dozen KHz above and below where my KX3 is tuned ... so am hoping to do this with minimal hardware.

I like your suggestion about Win4K3. I will strongly consider that.

Ed K7AAT

-----Original Message-----
From: Barry LaZar [mailto:[hidden email]]

Ed,
You will need to buy one additional bit, a good sound card. NaP3 is a good product, It's really an earlier version of PowerSDR than is out today. It is free, but you will want to download LP-Bridge, not Bridge2.
This will allow you to integrate your logging and digital software with what you have your KX3 doing.

I used this initially and was quite happy. I later switched to the
Win4K3 suite which costs $50, but it does offer some real advantages.
First you can use com0com , which is free, for your port replication.
This setup has been less problem prone on my system over NaP3 and LP-Bridge. Second, you have more control of your KX3.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "Ed via Elecraft" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: 10/16/2015 6:24:37 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 - easiest way to panadapt?

>
>I have a KX3. I would like to use my computer and laptop ( Windows 7
>and Windows 8 ) to display a spectrum from my KX3, using the RX I/Q
>output.
>What is the simplest and recommended easiest way to do this? NaP3 ?
>
>I use my KX3 mostly on digital modes .... with SignaLink USB interface
>and sometimes with just the laptop soundcard interface.
>
>Ed K7AAT
>
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Re: KX3 - easiest way to panadapt?

Ed,
If you are really sure that is all you really want to see is just a
few KHz, let me suggest a free program called FLDIGI. It shows the
spectrum present in your receiver's filter passband by using a waterfall
display. You will see all of the signals there. You click on the one you
want and work it. As you have a SignaLink USB, you do not require
anything else. Run the audio out of the radio, speaker/headphone output
to the SignaLink. The sound card in the SignaLink will do all of the
heavy lifting for you. This is easy and straight forward.

Using this approach allows you to use the DSP filtering present in
the software while still showing you the 3 KHz channel full of signals.
You will need to set your mode to data-a, frequency to where the PSK31
signals are, and crank the power back IAW the instructions that came
with the radio. And, you'll be ready to go. If you download right now,
you should be on the air ~30 minutes later with nothing else to buy. I
am assuming you have the interface cable to the radio.

Let me pass on a few more words. You do not need a stereo sound card
when do sound card digital modes which is what PSK31 is. However, you
are correct in that you must have stereo for spectrum displays. You need
the in phase and quadrature phase signals from the radio, those coming
out of the I&Q port on the KX3. But, there is another issue that doesn't
get much play, dynamic range. Typically, the sound cards in laptops and
most desktops are not of the really low noise variety, therefore they
and you are limited in what you can display. A low noise sound card that
is meant for studio recording, or nearly so, is better in that it allows
you to see more on the spectrum display. There are a host of other
issues like cost, but I'm only gisting the requirement set. And BTW,
from my read most of us are using cards in the ~$60 to $150 range.

One serious suggestion. If you are new to all of this, take the easy
road with the least complications. Download FLDIGI, use its spectrum
display, and go play. After about 5-10 hours of playing, you should have
a feel for where to go and what you need. The KISS principle ain't all
bad.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "Ed via Elecraft" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: 10/17/2015 12:20:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - easiest way to panadapt?

>Thank you, Barry. Your information is about what I was looking for. I
>understand the need for a better soundcard if I use NaP3 .... because
>of the stereo microphone input issue, I believe?? I do not currently
>use logging software.... just a PSK31 program called AirLink Express.
>I also just want to be able to look at the frequencies a few dozen KHz
>above and below where my KX3 is tuned ... so am hoping to do this with
>minimal hardware.
>
>I like your suggestion about Win4K3. I will strongly consider that.
>
>Ed K7AAT
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Barry LaZar [mailto:[hidden email]]
>
>Ed,
> You will need to buy one additional bit, a good sound card. NaP3
>is a good product, It's really an earlier version of PowerSDR than is
>out today. It is free, but you will want to download LP-Bridge, not
>Bridge2.
>This will allow you to integrate your logging and digital software with
>what you have your KX3 doing.
>
> I used this initially and was quite happy. I later switched to the
>Win4K3 suite which costs $50, but it does offer some real advantages.
>First you can use com0com , which is free, for your port replication.
>This setup has been less problem prone on my system over NaP3 and
>LP-Bridge. Second, you have more control of your KX3.
>
>73,
>Barry
>K3NDM
>
>------ Original Message ------
>From: "Ed via Elecraft" <[hidden email]>
>To: [hidden email]
>Sent: 10/16/2015 6:24:37 PM
>Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 - easiest way to panadapt?
>
>>
>>I have a KX3. I would like to use my computer and laptop ( Windows 7
>>and Windows 8 ) to display a spectrum from my KX3, using the RX I/Q
>>output.
>>What is the simplest and recommended easiest way to do this? NaP3 ?
>>
>>I use my KX3 mostly on digital modes .... with SignaLink USB interface
>>and sometimes with just the laptop soundcard interface.
>>
>>Ed K7AAT
>>
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