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Good morning.  I am having a problem getting my K3S to save in the config menu the setting for PTT-PTT. When I set it for RTS-DTR, hit menu it works fine.  Then I turn the radio off and back on and the PTT-PTT setting is back to OFF-OFF. What am I doing wrong? How do I get the Config menu to save the PTT-PTT setting to RTS-DTR?  

Tnx Jeff W7JW  
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Don Wilhelm
Jeff,

I have no idea what you are doing wrong, but here are a few thoughts:
After making the menu change, are you exiting from the menu? Tap the
MENU button.
Are you 'pulling the plug" when you say you turn the radio off and back
on?  Just like your computer, you must use the POWER button if the state
is to be saved.

Do you have anything plugged into the USB or RS-232 port that might be
causing a command to reset the menu entry?  Pull out the USB cable
and/or the RS-232 cable and try again.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/24/2016 9:24 AM, Jeff wrote:
> Good morning.  I am having a problem getting my K3S to save in the config menu the setting for PTT-PTT. When I set it for RTS-DTR, hit menu it works fine.  Then I turn the radio off and back on and the PTT-PTT setting is back to OFF-OFF. What am I doing wrong? How do I get the Config menu to save the PTT-PTT setting to RTS-DTR?
>
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Jim Finan
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Did you use the K3S' Power Button to power down? If not, settings may not be saved.

Jim Finan
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Good morning. I am having a problem getting my K3S to save in the config menu the setting for PTT-PTT. When I set it for RTS-DTR, hit menu it works fine. Then I turn the radio off and back on and the PTT-PTT setting is back to OFF-OFF. What am I doing wrong? How do I get the Config menu to save the PTT-PTT setting to RTS-DTR?

Tnx Jeff W7JW
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Dimitry Borzenko
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Hello.
Have check now and find - PTT setting is not saved.
I have set it to RTS-OFF, after turning off (by power button, not by power
supply) and turning on again -  setting of PTT is  OFF-OFF.
s/n of TRX is 10944 with firmware 5.50.

Regards.


-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Don
Wilhelm
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 5:14 PM
To: Jeff <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)

Jeff,

I have no idea what you are doing wrong, but here are a few thoughts:
After making the menu change, are you exiting from the menu? Tap the MENU
button.
Are you 'pulling the plug" when you say you turn the radio off and back on?
Just like your computer, you must use the POWER button if the state is to be
saved.

Do you have anything plugged into the USB or RS-232 port that might be
causing a command to reset the menu entry?  Pull out the USB cable and/or
the RS-232 cable and try again.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/24/2016 9:24 AM, Jeff wrote:
> Good morning.  I am having a problem getting my K3S to save in the config
menu the setting for PTT-PTT. When I set it for RTS-DTR, hit menu it works
fine.  Then I turn the radio off and back on and the PTT-PTT setting is back
to OFF-OFF. What am I doing wrong? How do I get the Config menu to save the
PTT-PTT setting to RTS-DTR?
>
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EUGENE GABRY
Could this be the reason. Does the K3S need to be switched off of safe mode for the PTT-PTT settings to not change?
 


PTT/KEY USE WITH THE USB PORT IMPROVED: Some PC applications can control PTT and

KEY at the K3S via the RTS/DTR signals of the USB port. However, use of these signals may also allow

the PC’s USB port initialization to unexpectedly activate transmit at the K3S. This can happen if the

computer is turned on after the K3S, or if the USB cable is not connected. There is now a "Safe" mode

(the default) which disables PTT-KEY transmit until the K3S receives a command via USB, such as a

read of the rig's VFO frequency. To turn on safe mode on/off, go into CONFIG:PTT-KEY and tap '1' to

select "USB SAFE" or "UNSAFE". Exit the menu and turn the K3S off/on. Applications that use PTTKEY

via USB but never send commands may require "UNSAFE" mode. In this case, unwanted

transmit can be avoided by turning the PC on before the K3S.
 
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740258E%20K3S%20Owner's%20man%20errata%20A1-2.pdf 
 
Gene, N9TF

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From: "Dimitry Borzenko" <[hidden email]>
To: "elecraft" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 10:28:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)

Hello.
Have check now and find - PTT setting is not saved.
I have set it to RTS-OFF, after turning off (by power button, not by power
supply) and turning on again -  setting of PTT is  OFF-OFF.
s/n of TRX is 10944 with firmware 5.50.

Regards.


-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Don
Wilhelm
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 5:14 PM
To: Jeff <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)

Jeff,

I have no idea what you are doing wrong, but here are a few thoughts:
After making the menu change, are you exiting from the menu? Tap the MENU
button.
Are you 'pulling the plug" when you say you turn the radio off and back on?
Just like your computer, you must use the POWER button if the state is to be
saved.

Do you have anything plugged into the USB or RS-232 port that might be
causing a command to reset the menu entry?  Pull out the USB cable and/or
the RS-232 cable and try again.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/24/2016 9:24 AM, Jeff wrote:
> Good morning.  I am having a problem getting my K3S to save in the config
menu the setting for PTT-PTT. When I set it for RTS-DTR, hit menu it works
fine.  Then I turn the radio off and back on and the PTT-PTT setting is back
to OFF-OFF. What am I doing wrong? How do I get the Config menu to save the
PTT-PTT setting to RTS-DTR?
>
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Jeff-3
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Winner, Winner chicken Dinner!!!  Tnx Gene for providing what seems to be the answer to my problem. By selecting the”Unsafe” mode in the Config menu for the USB port as described below, the K3S now works in RTS-DTR every time.  I appreciate your help. This group is truly something else when it comes to helping each other out. Not necessarily included in the price of the radio, but one of the benefits of owning an Elecraft product.  Tnx agn to All who replied directly and through the Elecraft reflector.

Best 73 Jeff W7JW

From: [hidden email]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 11:00 AM
To: Jeff
Subject: Re: PTT reset default power down

Hi Jeff,


Try this,

PTT/KEY USE WITH THE USB PORT IMPROVED:

Some PC applications can control PTT and
KEY at the K3S via the RTS/DTR signals of the USB port. However, use of these signals may also allow

the PC’s USB port initialization to unexpectedly activate transmit at the K3S. This can happen if the

computer is turned on

after the K3S, or if the USB cable is not connected. There is now a "Safe" mode
(the default) which disables PTT-KEY transmit until the K3S receives a command via USB, such as a

read of the rig's VFO frequency.

To turn on safe mode on/off, go into CONFIG:PTT-KEY and tap '1' to
select "USB SAFE" or "UNSAFE". Exit the menu and turn the K3S off/on.

Applications that use PTTKEY
via USB but never send commands

may require "UNSAFE" mode. In this case, unwanted
transmit can be avoided by turning the PC on

before the K3S.

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740258E%20K3S%20Owner's%20man%20errata%20A1-2.pdf

73, Gene N9TF
K3S 10057


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From: "Jeff" <[hidden email]>
To: "elecraft" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 8:24:14 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] (no subject)


Good morning.  I am having a problem getting my K3S to save in the config menu the setting for PTT-PTT. When I set it for RTS-DTR, hit menu it works fine.  Then I turn the radio off and back on and the PTT-PTT setting is back to OFF-OFF. What am I doing wrong? How do I get the Config menu to save the PTT-PTT setting to RTS-DTR?  


Tnx Jeff W7JW  
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Re: PTT reset default power down

Dimitry Borzenko
Hi.
Gene - thank you!!!
I do not need to change setting to  "UNSAVE" mode.
When my log connected with K3S -  PTT setting is returned as was set.
Excellent "Safe mode"  add-on !!

Regards.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jeff
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 6:43 PM
To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT reset default power down

Winner, Winner chicken Dinner!!!  Tnx Gene for providing what seems to be the answer to my problem. By selecting the Unsafe  mode in the Config menu for the USB port as described below, the K3S now works in RTS-DTR every time.  I appreciate your help. This group is truly something else when it comes to helping each other out. Not necessarily included in the price of the radio, but one of the benefits of owning an Elecraft product.  Tnx agn to All who replied directly and through the Elecraft reflector.

Best 73 Jeff W7JW

From: [hidden email]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 11:00 AM
To: Jeff
Subject: Re: PTT reset default power down

Hi Jeff,


Try this,

PTT/KEY USE WITH THE USB PORT IMPROVED:

Some PC applications can control PTT and KEY at the K3S via the RTS/DTR signals of the USB port. However, use of these signals may also allow

the PC s USB port initialization to unexpectedly activate transmit at the K3S. This can happen if the

computer is turned on

after the K3S, or if the USB cable is not connected. There is now a "Safe" mode (the default) which disables PTT-KEY transmit until the K3S receives a command via USB, such as a

read of the rig's VFO frequency.

To turn on safe mode on/off, go into CONFIG:PTT-KEY and tap '1' to select "USB SAFE" or "UNSAFE". Exit the menu and turn the K3S off/on.

Applications that use PTTKEY
via USB but never send commands

may require "UNSAFE" mode. In this case, unwanted transmit can be avoided by turning the PC on

before the K3S.

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740258E%20K3S%20Owner's%20man%20errata%20A1-2.pdf

73, Gene N9TF
K3S 10057


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Jeff" <[hidden email]>
To: "elecraft" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 8:24:14 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] (no subject)


Good morning.  I am having a problem getting my K3S to save in the config menu the setting for PTT-PTT. When I set it for RTS-DTR, hit menu it works fine.  Then I turn the radio off and back on and the PTT-PTT setting is back to OFF-OFF. What am I doing wrong? How do I get the Config menu to save the PTT-PTT setting to RTS-DTR?  


Tnx Jeff W7JW
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I have the same problem. There is a Safe Mode (somewhere?) which allows you to do this, otherwise the K3S goes to transmit when controlled by USB and the PC is turned off.

Regards,

Danny Higgins

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Sent: 24 October 2016 14:24
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Subject: [Elecraft] (no subject)

Good morning.  I am having a problem getting my K3S to save in the config menu the setting for PTT-PTT. When I set it for RTS-DTR, hit menu it works fine.  Then I turn the radio off and back on and the PTT-PTT setting is back to OFF-OFF. What am I doing wrong? How do I get the Config menu to save the PTT-PTT setting to RTS-DTR?  

Tnx Jeff W7JW  
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Don Wilhelm
Danny,

You will find that in the firmware release notes.  This one is from MCU
5.33 dated Aug 2015.
"To turn on safe mode on/off, go into CONFIG:PTT-KEY and tap '1' to
select "USB SAFE" or "UNSAFE". Exit the menu and turn the K3S off/on."

When upgrading firmware, it is always a good idea to review the firmware
release notes between your present level and the new level being loaded
- that way you will know about things like this and should have no
surprises.

These recent changes have not made it into the manual yet.  Consider the
firmware release notes as updates to the manual.

73,
Don W3FPR


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> I have the same problem. There is a Safe Mode (somewhere?) which allows you to do this, otherwise the K3S goes to transmit when controlled by USB and the PC is turned off.
>
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