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Bill Steffey NY9H
STAY WELL ALL..

got my W2s in circuit...   However my interface ( not the utility)
software finally finds the W2 but the application stays pinned in the
let top corner of the main screen. Cannot even find the top bar to use
the X to kill it.

Tried wiping out the regedit , but it manages to stick up there. tried a
bunch of stuff.

I know this is my windows ignorance.


bill   ( 1 mile from nearest neighbor, both 89 & 93 years old  )

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Re: question on W2 wattmeter interface application

Rick Bates, NK7I
Bill,

I don't have a W2 so I cannot comment there, but two things stand out
that need mention.

1)  Regedit is NOT the place to wipe out a program.  If you (as you
said) don't know much about Windows, it is however the perfect place to
make an unrecoverable error and trash the entire computer.  It is one of
the core elements of the OS.  If you don't understand, don't attempt
here, it's a dangerous place to learn (by mistake).

2a) The Windows key (four small window panes) with B /_*may*_//__/ bring
that errant program back into viewing ability. (Windows B at the same time)

2b) Use the Task Manager (right click on the taskbar at the bottom) to
'End Task' if you can't get the upper right X to kill it. Ending a
taskwill lose whatever changes you've made in that application since
starting it but that's often a cause of the issues too.

If you wish to remove a program, uninstall it. If you wish to clean or
purge the registry of residue (and other things), use 'CCleaner' (Crap
Cleaner) which will do it with intelligence and safety.  It is free but
has the (nasty) habit of wanting to stay running in the background, so
get into the program settings and turn that 'feature' off.  You'll be
amazed and how much 'stuff' gets purged if you use this app.

When CCleaning a _registry_, run the cleaning cycle again until it says
nothing found.  Removing one old piece in the registry often causes
others to not be needed as well.  Three times is 'usually' enough passes.

CCleaner MAY not get all the folders that installed software leaves
behind, you have to hunt and dispose of them manually and CAREFULLY. 
Again, this can be a dangerous place to play if you don't understand.

(I've used CCleaner for years, I'm not a shill.)

After you've done this, then you can reinstall the software if you wish.

Now, back to the topic of the W2 software. Practice safe computing, hi.

73,
Rick NK7I

PS


On 3/19/2020 11:56 AM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:

> STAY WELL ALL..
>
> got my W2s in circuit...   However my interface ( not the utility)
> software finally finds the W2 but the application stays pinned in the
> let top corner of the main screen. Cannot even find the top bar to use
> the X to kill it.
>
> Tried wiping out the regedit , but it manages to stick up there. tried
> a bunch of stuff.
>
> I know this is my windows ignorance.
>
>
> bill   ( 1 mile from nearest neighbor, both 89 & 93 years old )
>
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Re: question on W2 wattmeter interface application

Michael Walker
Bill

I have lots of experience with the W2 and interfacing to it.

Can you explain more on what you are trying to accomplish?

What is your interface software?

Mike
va3mw

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 4:30 PM Rick Bates, NK7I <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Bill,
>
> I don't have a W2 so I cannot comment there, but two things stand out
> that need mention.
>
> 1)  Regedit is NOT the place to wipe out a program.  If you (as you
> said) don't know much about Windows, it is however the perfect place to
> make an unrecoverable error and trash the entire computer.  It is one of
> the core elements of the OS.  If you don't understand, don't attempt
> here, it's a dangerous place to learn (by mistake).
>
> 2a) The Windows key (four small window panes) with B /_*may*_//__/ bring
> that errant program back into viewing ability. (Windows B at the same time)
>
> 2b) Use the Task Manager (right click on the taskbar at the bottom) to
> 'End Task' if you can't get the upper right X to kill it. Ending a
> taskwill lose whatever changes you've made in that application since
> starting it but that's often a cause of the issues too.
>
> If you wish to remove a program, uninstall it. If you wish to clean or
> purge the registry of residue (and other things), use 'CCleaner' (Crap
> Cleaner) which will do it with intelligence and safety.  It is free but
> has the (nasty) habit of wanting to stay running in the background, so
> get into the program settings and turn that 'feature' off.  You'll be
> amazed and how much 'stuff' gets purged if you use this app.
>
> When CCleaning a _registry_, run the cleaning cycle again until it says
> nothing found.  Removing one old piece in the registry often causes
> others to not be needed as well.  Three times is 'usually' enough passes.
>
> CCleaner MAY not get all the folders that installed software leaves
> behind, you have to hunt and dispose of them manually and CAREFULLY.
> Again, this can be a dangerous place to play if you don't understand.
>
> (I've used CCleaner for years, I'm not a shill.)
>
> After you've done this, then you can reinstall the software if you wish.
>
> Now, back to the topic of the W2 software. Practice safe computing, hi.
>
> 73,
> Rick NK7I
>
> PS
>
>
> On 3/19/2020 11:56 AM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:
> > STAY WELL ALL..
> >
> > got my W2s in circuit...   However my interface ( not the utility)
> > software finally finds the W2 but the application stays pinned in the
> > let top corner of the main screen. Cannot even find the top bar to use
> > the X to kill it.
> >
> > Tried wiping out the regedit , but it manages to stick up there. tried
> > a bunch of stuff.
> >
> > I know this is my windows ignorance.
> >
> >
> > bill   ( 1 mile from nearest neighbor, both 89 & 93 years old )
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________
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Re: question on W2 wattmeter interface application

Bill Steffey NY9H
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I had uninstalled the app. , then cleared the registry , reinstalled
it   no difference..

Intrestingly , and now i need to rethiink the installation process,,,
the app does not appear on the taskline , appearing as a background app
in task manager.

I agree ccleaner is a great tool...

bill

On 3/19/2020 4:29 PM, Rick Bates, NK7I wrote:

> Bill,
>
> I don't have a W2 so I cannot comment there, but two things stand out
> that need mention.
>
> 1)  Regedit is NOT the place to wipe out a program.  If you (as you
> said) don't know much about Windows, it is however the perfect place
> to make an unrecoverable error and trash the entire computer.  It is
> one of the core elements of the OS.  If you don't understand, don't
> attempt here, it's a dangerous place to learn (by mistake).
>
> 2a) The Windows key (four small window panes) with B /_*may*_//__/
> bring that errant program back into viewing ability. (Windows B at the
> same time)
>
> 2b) Use the Task Manager (right click on the taskbar at the bottom) to
> 'End Task' if you can't get the upper right X to kill it. Ending a
> taskwill lose whatever changes you've made in that application since
> starting it but that's often a cause of the issues too.
>
> If you wish to remove a program, uninstall it. If you wish to clean or
> purge the registry of residue (and other things), use 'CCleaner' (Crap
> Cleaner) which will do it with intelligence and safety.  It is free
> but has the (nasty) habit of wanting to stay running in the
> background, so get into the program settings and turn that 'feature'
> off.  You'll be amazed and how much 'stuff' gets purged if you use
> this app.
>
> When CCleaning a _registry_, run the cleaning cycle again until it
> says nothing found.  Removing one old piece in the registry often
> causes others to not be needed as well.  Three times is 'usually'
> enough passes.
>
> CCleaner MAY not get all the folders that installed software leaves
> behind, you have to hunt and dispose of them manually and CAREFULLY. 
> Again, this can be a dangerous place to play if you don't understand.
>
> (I've used CCleaner for years, I'm not a shill.)
>
> After you've done this, then you can reinstall the software if you wish.
>
> Now, back to the topic of the W2 software. Practice safe computing, hi.
>
> 73,
> Rick NK7I
>
> PS
>
>
> On 3/19/2020 11:56 AM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:
>> STAY WELL ALL..
>>
>> got my W2s in circuit...   However my interface ( not the utility)
>> software finally finds the W2 but the application stays pinned in the
>> let top corner of the main screen. Cannot even find the top bar to
>> use the X to kill it.
>>
>> Tried wiping out the regedit , but it manages to stick up there.
>> tried a bunch of stuff.
>>
>> I know this is my windows ignorance.
>>
>>
>> bill   ( 1 mile from nearest neighbor, both 89 & 93 years old )
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
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Re: question on W2 wattmeter interface application

Michael Walker
Stuck.. you mean the display is stuck at .98 watts?

It might not be the computer software, it could be the sensor.

I would open a support case.

Mike


On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 5:51 PM Bill Steffey NY9H <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I had uninstalled the app. , then cleared the registry , reinstalled
> it   no difference..
>
> Intrestingly , and now i need to rethiink the installation process,,,
> the app does not appear on the taskline , appearing as a background app
> in task manager.
>
> I agree ccleaner is a great tool...
>
> bill
>
> On 3/19/2020 4:29 PM, Rick Bates, NK7I wrote:
>
> > Bill,
> >
> > I don't have a W2 so I cannot comment there, but two things stand out
> > that need mention.
> >
> > 1)  Regedit is NOT the place to wipe out a program.  If you (as you
> > said) don't know much about Windows, it is however the perfect place
> > to make an unrecoverable error and trash the entire computer.  It is
> > one of the core elements of the OS.  If you don't understand, don't
> > attempt here, it's a dangerous place to learn (by mistake).
> >
> > 2a) The Windows key (four small window panes) with B /_*may*_//__/
> > bring that errant program back into viewing ability. (Windows B at the
> > same time)
> >
> > 2b) Use the Task Manager (right click on the taskbar at the bottom) to
> > 'End Task' if you can't get the upper right X to kill it. Ending a
> > taskwill lose whatever changes you've made in that application since
> > starting it but that's often a cause of the issues too.
> >
> > If you wish to remove a program, uninstall it. If you wish to clean or
> > purge the registry of residue (and other things), use 'CCleaner' (Crap
> > Cleaner) which will do it with intelligence and safety.  It is free
> > but has the (nasty) habit of wanting to stay running in the
> > background, so get into the program settings and turn that 'feature'
> > off.  You'll be amazed and how much 'stuff' gets purged if you use
> > this app.
> >
> > When CCleaning a _registry_, run the cleaning cycle again until it
> > says nothing found.  Removing one old piece in the registry often
> > causes others to not be needed as well.  Three times is 'usually'
> > enough passes.
> >
> > CCleaner MAY not get all the folders that installed software leaves
> > behind, you have to hunt and dispose of them manually and CAREFULLY.
> > Again, this can be a dangerous place to play if you don't understand.
> >
> > (I've used CCleaner for years, I'm not a shill.)
> >
> > After you've done this, then you can reinstall the software if you wish.
> >
> > Now, back to the topic of the W2 software. Practice safe computing, hi.
> >
> > 73,
> > Rick NK7I
> >
> > PS
> >
> >
> > On 3/19/2020 11:56 AM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:
> >> STAY WELL ALL..
> >>
> >> got my W2s in circuit...   However my interface ( not the utility)
> >> software finally finds the W2 but the application stays pinned in the
> >> let top corner of the main screen. Cannot even find the top bar to
> >> use the X to kill it.
> >>
> >> Tried wiping out the regedit , but it manages to stick up there.
> >> tried a bunch of stuff.
> >>
> >> I know this is my windows ignorance.
> >>
> >>
> >> bill   ( 1 mile from nearest neighbor, both 89 & 93 years old )
> >>
> >> ______________________________________________________________
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Re: question on W2 wattmeter interface application

Rick Bates, NK7I
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You uninstalled and cleaned the registry but did you purge the folders
of the residue?  That data can be splattered in a variety of places.  It
can haunt in many ways...  ;-)

Rick NK7I


On 3/19/2020 2:50 PM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:

> I had uninstalled the app. , then cleared the registry , reinstalled
> it   no difference..
>
> Intrestingly , and now i need to rethiink the installation process,,,
> the app does not appear on the taskline , appearing as a background
> app in task manager.
>
> I agree ccleaner is a great tool...
>
> bill
>
> On 3/19/2020 4:29 PM, Rick Bates, NK7I wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> I don't have a W2 so I cannot comment there, but two things stand out
>> that need mention.
>>
>> 1)  Regedit is NOT the place to wipe out a program.  If you (as you
>> said) don't know much about Windows, it is however the perfect place
>> to make an unrecoverable error and trash the entire computer.  It is
>> one of the core elements of the OS.  If you don't understand, don't
>> attempt here, it's a dangerous place to learn (by mistake).
>>
>> 2a) The Windows key (four small window panes) with B /_*may*_//__/
>> bring that errant program back into viewing ability. (Windows B at
>> the same time)
>>
>> 2b) Use the Task Manager (right click on the taskbar at the bottom)
>> to 'End Task' if you can't get the upper right X to kill it. Ending a
>> taskwill lose whatever changes you've made in that application since
>> starting it but that's often a cause of the issues too.
>>
>> If you wish to remove a program, uninstall it. If you wish to clean
>> or purge the registry of residue (and other things), use 'CCleaner'
>> (Crap Cleaner) which will do it with intelligence and safety.  It is
>> free but has the (nasty) habit of wanting to stay running in the
>> background, so get into the program settings and turn that 'feature'
>> off.  You'll be amazed and how much 'stuff' gets purged if you use
>> this app.
>>
>> When CCleaning a _registry_, run the cleaning cycle again until it
>> says nothing found.  Removing one old piece in the registry often
>> causes others to not be needed as well.  Three times is 'usually'
>> enough passes.
>>
>> CCleaner MAY not get all the folders that installed software leaves
>> behind, you have to hunt and dispose of them manually and CAREFULLY. 
>> Again, this can be a dangerous place to play if you don't understand.
>>
>> (I've used CCleaner for years, I'm not a shill.)
>>
>> After you've done this, then you can reinstall the software if you wish.
>>
>> Now, back to the topic of the W2 software. Practice safe computing, hi.
>>
>> 73,
>> Rick NK7I
>>
>> PS
>>
>>
>> On 3/19/2020 11:56 AM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:
>>> STAY WELL ALL..
>>>
>>> got my W2s in circuit...   However my interface ( not the utility)
>>> software finally finds the W2 but the application stays pinned in
>>> the let top corner of the main screen. Cannot even find the top bar
>>> to use the X to kill it.
>>>
>>> Tried wiping out the regedit , but it manages to stick up there.
>>> tried a bunch of stuff.
>>>
>>> I know this is my windows ignorance.
>>>
>>>
>>> bill   ( 1 mile from nearest neighbor, both 89 & 93 years old )
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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Re: question on W2 wattmeter interface application RESOLVED

Bill Steffey NY9H
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HAD TO DISCONNECT MAIN MONITOR , forcing all the apps to the 2nd & 3rd
monitor,,

  got the  W2 APP to come off the ceiling... onto main portion of
screen/// reconnected and all ok ///


sorry for the bANDWIDTH

STAY SAFE

On 3/19/2020 5:50 PM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:

> I had uninstalled the app. , then cleared the registry , reinstalled
> it   no difference..
>
> Intrestingly , and now i need to rethiink the installation process,,,
> the app does not appear on the taskline , appearing as a background
> app in task manager.
>
> I agree ccleaner is a great tool...
>
> bill
>
> On 3/19/2020 4:29 PM, Rick Bates, NK7I wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> I don't have a W2 so I cannot comment there, but two things stand out
>> that need mention.
>>
>> 1)  Regedit is NOT the place to wipe out a program.  If you (as you
>> said) don't know much about Windows, it is however the perfect place
>> to make an unrecoverable error and trash the entire computer.  It is
>> one of the core elements of the OS.  If you don't understand, don't
>> attempt here, it's a dangerous place to learn (by mistake).
>>
>> 2a) The Windows key (four small window panes) with B /_*may*_//__/
>> bring that errant program back into viewing ability. (Windows B at
>> the same time)
>>
>> 2b) Use the Task Manager (right click on the taskbar at the bottom)
>> to 'End Task' if you can't get the upper right X to kill it. Ending a
>> taskwill lose whatever changes you've made in that application since
>> starting it but that's often a cause of the issues too.
>>
>> If you wish to remove a program, uninstall it. If you wish to clean
>> or purge the registry of residue (and other things), use 'CCleaner'
>> (Crap Cleaner) which will do it with intelligence and safety.  It is
>> free but has the (nasty) habit of wanting to stay running in the
>> background, so get into the program settings and turn that 'feature'
>> off.  You'll be amazed and how much 'stuff' gets purged if you use
>> this app.
>>
>> When CCleaning a _registry_, run the cleaning cycle again until it
>> says nothing found.  Removing one old piece in the registry often
>> causes others to not be needed as well.  Three times is 'usually'
>> enough passes.
>>
>> CCleaner MAY not get all the folders that installed software leaves
>> behind, you have to hunt and dispose of them manually and CAREFULLY. 
>> Again, this can be a dangerous place to play if you don't understand.
>>
>> (I've used CCleaner for years, I'm not a shill.)
>>
>> After you've done this, then you can reinstall the software if you wish.
>>
>> Now, back to the topic of the W2 software. Practice safe computing, hi.
>>
>> 73,
>> Rick NK7I
>>
>> PS
>>
>>
>> On 3/19/2020 11:56 AM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:
>>> STAY WELL ALL..
>>>
>>> got my W2s in circuit...   However my interface ( not the utility)
>>> software finally finds the W2 but the application stays pinned in
>>> the let top corner of the main screen. Cannot even find the top bar
>>> to use the X to kill it.
>>>
>>> Tried wiping out the regedit , but it manages to stick up there.
>>> tried a bunch of stuff.
>>>
>>> I know this is my windows ignorance.
>>>
>>>
>>> bill   ( 1 mile from nearest neighbor, both 89 & 93 years old )
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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Re: question on W2 wattmeter interface application RESOLVED

Michael Walker
Hi Bill

Glad you got it sorted out.

This might help next time  https://youtu.be/s4OPX6Isl-U or this one:
https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows/bring-misplaced-off-screen-windows-back-to-your-desktop-keyboard-trick/

73

Mike va3mw


On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 7:03 PM Bill Steffey NY9H <[hidden email]> wrote:

> HAD TO DISCONNECT MAIN MONITOR , forcing all the apps to the 2nd & 3rd
> monitor,,
>
>   got the  W2 APP to come off the ceiling... onto main portion of
> screen/// reconnected and all ok ///
>
>
> sorry for the bANDWIDTH
>
> STAY SAFE
>
> On 3/19/2020 5:50 PM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:
> > I had uninstalled the app. , then cleared the registry , reinstalled
> > it   no difference..
> >
> > Intrestingly , and now i need to rethiink the installation process,,,
> > the app does not appear on the taskline , appearing as a background
> > app in task manager.
> >
> > I agree ccleaner is a great tool...
> >
> > bill
> >
> > On 3/19/2020 4:29 PM, Rick Bates, NK7I wrote:
> >
> >> Bill,
> >>
> >> I don't have a W2 so I cannot comment there, but two things stand out
> >> that need mention.
> >>
> >> 1)  Regedit is NOT the place to wipe out a program.  If you (as you
> >> said) don't know much about Windows, it is however the perfect place
> >> to make an unrecoverable error and trash the entire computer.  It is
> >> one of the core elements of the OS.  If you don't understand, don't
> >> attempt here, it's a dangerous place to learn (by mistake).
> >>
> >> 2a) The Windows key (four small window panes) with B /_*may*_//__/
> >> bring that errant program back into viewing ability. (Windows B at
> >> the same time)
> >>
> >> 2b) Use the Task Manager (right click on the taskbar at the bottom)
> >> to 'End Task' if you can't get the upper right X to kill it. Ending a
> >> taskwill lose whatever changes you've made in that application since
> >> starting it but that's often a cause of the issues too.
> >>
> >> If you wish to remove a program, uninstall it. If you wish to clean
> >> or purge the registry of residue (and other things), use 'CCleaner'
> >> (Crap Cleaner) which will do it with intelligence and safety.  It is
> >> free but has the (nasty) habit of wanting to stay running in the
> >> background, so get into the program settings and turn that 'feature'
> >> off.  You'll be amazed and how much 'stuff' gets purged if you use
> >> this app.
> >>
> >> When CCleaning a _registry_, run the cleaning cycle again until it
> >> says nothing found.  Removing one old piece in the registry often
> >> causes others to not be needed as well.  Three times is 'usually'
> >> enough passes.
> >>
> >> CCleaner MAY not get all the folders that installed software leaves
> >> behind, you have to hunt and dispose of them manually and CAREFULLY.
> >> Again, this can be a dangerous place to play if you don't understand.
> >>
> >> (I've used CCleaner for years, I'm not a shill.)
> >>
> >> After you've done this, then you can reinstall the software if you wish.
> >>
> >> Now, back to the topic of the W2 software. Practice safe computing, hi.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Rick NK7I
> >>
> >> PS
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/19/2020 11:56 AM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:
> >>> STAY WELL ALL..
> >>>
> >>> got my W2s in circuit...   However my interface ( not the utility)
> >>> software finally finds the W2 but the application stays pinned in
> >>> the let top corner of the main screen. Cannot even find the top bar
> >>> to use the X to kill it.
> >>>
> >>> Tried wiping out the regedit , but it manages to stick up there.
> >>> tried a bunch of stuff.
> >>>
> >>> I know this is my windows ignorance.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> bill   ( 1 mile from nearest neighbor, both 89 & 93 years old )
> >>>
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