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n7ws

Re: rather provocative advert from Kenwood

You mean don't operate your radio with your left hand? How do you operate your key?

Wes N7WS

--- On Sat, 7/3/10, Rick Prather <[hidden email]> wrote:
Does anyone else feel this looks like a left-handed radio?

I personally would not like the keypad to the left of the tuning knob.

Rick
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Al AE2T

Re: rather provocative advert from Kenwood

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here it is as a .jpg

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/WOQDzMLsPO4fHMFeO-PK-A?feat=directlink

On 7/2/2010 5:35 PM, Kevin Rock wrote:

> This is broken too. After crashing my system twice I find it is not worth my time to download the .pdf
> Kevin. KD5ONS
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>> From: Lew Phelps K6LMP<[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Jul 2, 2010 2:19 PM
>> To: Elecraft<[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] rather provocative advert from Kenwood
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>> I downloaded this PDF file and uploaded it to a site anyone can access:
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>> http://public.me.com/lewphelps
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>> Has anyone seen specs and price for the new Kenwood?
>>
>> Lew Phelps K6LMP
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>> On Jul 2, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
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>>> Any chance this exists somewhere where creating a Google account isn't a prerequisite
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>>> On Jul 2, 2010, at 3:43 PM, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:
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>>>> https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0Bw6A6YLa6L3rZjhjNWRiMGUtODZiMi00OWM3LTljYmItNWM3ODY2YWU0YjVi&hl=en&authkey=CLe25YAE
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Phil Hystad-3

Re: rather provocative advert from Kenwood

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Excellent point. I am right handed but almost always use my left hand for fiddling the knobs and buttons on my K3 (or, any other rig with one exception). My right hand is either next to my Begali paddle or it is holding a pencil/pen.

The one exception is my mobile rig which is right of the steering wheel so obviously I use my right hand for knob and button work.

Phil, K7PEH

On Jul 3, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Wes Stewart wrote:

> You mean don't operate your radio with your left hand? How do you operate your key?
>
> Wes N7WS
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> --- On Sat, 7/3/10, Rick Prather <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Does anyone else feel this looks like a left-handed radio?
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> I personally would not like the keypad to the left of the tuning knob.
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Guy, K2AV

Re: rather provocative advert from Kenwood

This subject was tagged [END OF THREAD] by Eric yesterday.

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Phil Hystad <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Excellent point. I am right handed but almost always use my left hand for fiddling the knobs and buttons on my K3 (or, any other rig with one exception). My right hand is either next to my Begali paddle or it is holding a pencil/pen.
>
> The one exception is my mobile rig which is right of the steering wheel so obviously I use my right hand for knob and button work.
>
> Phil, K7PEH
>
> On Jul 3, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Wes Stewart wrote:
>
>> You mean don't operate your radio with your left hand? How do you operate your key?
>>
>> Wes N7WS
>>
>> --- On Sat, 7/3/10, Rick Prather <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Does anyone else feel this looks like a left-handed radio?
>>
>> I personally would not like the keypad to the left of the tuning knob.
>>
>> Rick
>> K6LE
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n7ws

Re: rather provocative advert from Kenwood

No it wasn't. That was a different thread.

http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@.../msg98701.html

--- On Sat, 7/3/10, Guy Olinger K2AV <[hidden email]> wrote:
This subject was tagged [END OF THREAD] by Eric yesterday.

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Grant Youngman

Re: rather provocative advert from Kenwood

Well .. yes, but .. if it looks like a duck, etc. :-)

Grant/NQ5t

On Jul 3, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Wes Stewart wrote:

> No it wasn't. That was a different thread.
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Larry - K2GN

Re: The list is now useless!

Thanks to all of you with "diarrhea of the keyboard" you have made the
Elecraft reflector useless.
PLEASE STOP THE BS.
I do want to read about Elecraft but not at the expense of wearing the paint
off my delete key.
It's just not the current BS on the ad in the UK, who cares.
It happens to too many threads.
My filter list is getting huge!!!!!!

de K2GN - Larry - http://k2gn.com
K3 S/N - 3278 P3 S/N - ???? (Ordered)

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Rick Prather-2

Re: rather provocative advert from Kenwood

In reply to this post by n7ws

I usually tune with my left hand but use my right for keypad and most button entries.

Rick
K6LE

On 7/3/2010, at 8:38 , Wes Stewart wrote:

w7go

Re: The list is now useless!

In reply to this post by Larry - K2GN

And the Kenwood thread was terminated yesterday
Cmon guys.

73,

Tony W7GO

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Larry - K2GN <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thanks to all of you with "diarrhea of the keyboard" you have made the
> Elecraft reflector useless.
> PLEASE STOP THE BS.
> I do want to read about Elecraft but not at the expense of wearing the
> paint
> off my delete key.
> It's just not the current BS on the ad in the UK, who cares.
> It happens to too many threads.
> My filter list is getting huge!!!!!!
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Bob Garrett

Re: rather provocative advert from Kenwood

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Come on guys, Eric terminated this thread 15 messages ago. TNX and 73, Bob
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Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ

Re: rather provocative advert from Kenwood

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Yes - Again, let's end this thread now, please.

It has been beaten to death and to be honest, we really don't mind the
attention from our competitors. We obviously are doing something right. ;-)

I apologize for not jumping in earlier on this and several other large
threads. I was overseas following the Friedrichshafen show until late
yesterday and was not reading all emails.

73, Eric

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On 7/3/2010 10:32 AM, Bob Garrett wrote:

> Come on guys, Eric terminated this thread 15 messages ago. TNX and 73, Bob
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Re: The list is now useless! [ENDED Thread]

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This thread is also ended.

73, Eric
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k6dgw

K3 Right vs Left Hand

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Phil Hystad wrote:
> Excellent point. I am right handed but almost always use my left
> hand for fiddling the knobs and buttons on my K3 (or, any other rig
> with one exception). My right hand is either next to my Begali
> paddle or it is holding a pencil/pen.

Several years ago, as an outgrowth of a very long thread, I ran a little
survey here about "handedness" and hams. It was non-scientific [people
answered the survey voluntarily so the sample was self-selected]. Aside
from the fact that the percentage of left-handed hams was quite a bit
higher than the average for males [something I've noticed at radio club
meetings too], the results suggested that hams have all manner of
arrangements for their radio gear on the desk, whether they paddle left
or right, how they set their paddle up, and the like that doesn't
correlate much with whether they consider themselves north or southpaws.

I'm a leftie, but you'd probably tell me my station is set up right-handed.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010
- www.cqp.org
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Guy, K2AV

Re: K3 Right vs Left Hand

I haven't quite learned how to send CW from a paddle left-handed, but
in the last three or four years at SAS (all day at a computer) before
I retired I developed a sore right wrist that would not go away, and
even if rested would immediately re-sore up if I returned to a right
handed mouse.

Mimmicking another's experience I started using a good trackball
(Kensington) with my left hand and have never returned, though I can
use anyone's right handed mouse if I don't do it much. I reverse the
buttons so that left thumb click does the same thing as right thumb
click. I now find myself wanting my main radio on the left, and using
my left hand to tune. The setup which serves contests well, left to
right, is trackball, radio tuniing knob over left edge of keyboard,
keyboard, and paddle. Right hand does switching antennas, yada, yada.

This may or may not serve anyone else, as when I was young, I had to
be forced to write and throw righthanded. So I don't know if I'm
really a "bent" left-hander or not. I know I can't ever again use my
right hand consistently for computer mouse. The automatic sending in a
contest by the logger keeps my right hand from being seriously worked
by the paddle. The typing is hard enough.

73, Guy

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Fred Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Phil Hystad wrote:
>> Excellent point. I am right handed but almost always use my left
>> hand for fiddling the knobs and buttons on my K3 (or, any other rig
>> with one exception). My right hand is either next to my Begali
>> paddle or it is holding a pencil/pen.
>
> Several years ago, as an outgrowth of a very long thread, I ran a little
> survey here about "handedness" and hams. It was non-scientific [people
> answered the survey voluntarily so the sample was self-selected]. Aside
> from the fact that the percentage of left-handed hams was quite a bit
> higher than the average for males [something I've noticed at radio club
> meetings too], the results suggested that hams have all manner of
> arrangements for their radio gear on the desk, whether they paddle left
> or right, how they set their paddle up, and the like that doesn't
> correlate much with whether they consider themselves north or southpaws.
>
> I'm a leftie, but you'd probably tell me my station is set up right-handed.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010
> - www.cqp.org
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Phil Salas

Re: K3 Right vs Left Hand

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"...the percentage of left-handed hams was quite a bit
higher than the average ..."

Several years ago there was an article in Psychology Today that said that
while the average population for left-handers is about10%, the percentage
rises to about 25% average in technically-related fields. I did a little
survey in my engineering department at Rockwell and found that 30% of the
engineers were lefties (as am I).

Phil - AD5X

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n7ws

Re: K3 Right vs Left Hand

I'm a definite "rightie" but my radio was always on the left. My TS-870 is still in that position and the K3 is on the right. After rotator cuff surgery on the right side I started to use a mouse with the left and when my right gets sore, I still do, without any fuss.

I can't write with my left...but then I can barely write with the right one either

Wes N7WS

"...the percentage of left-handed hams was quite a bit
higher than the average ..."

Several years ago there was an article in Psychology Today that said that
while the average population for left-handers is about10%, the percentage
rises to about 25% average in technically-related fields. I did a little
survey in my engineering department at Rockwell and found that 30% of the
engineers were lefties (as am I).

Phil - AD5X

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A thought regarding new radios

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In reply to this post by Doug Person

Some companies bring out new transceiver models every year or two. Our
philosophy is different. We'll continue improving the K3, protecting
your investment. Similarly, the P3 and KPA500 will extend the
capabilities of the K3 without any need to replace the rig itself.

73,
Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft_K3] A thought regarding new radios

I really like your philosophy Wayne. It is one of my major
considerations in selecting equipment.

73
Dale, K9VUJ

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> Some companies bring out new transceiver models every year or two. Our
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Re: A thought regarding new radios

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And don't forget you also improve value by not having to pay for
features that you won't use. Don't need a tuner? You don't have to pay
for one... Don't want two receivers? You don't have to pay for both of
them...

Then on another note... Want two receivers but don't have the money to
pay for one now? Get on the air with part of the radio and add that
which you want later...

My family loves my K3 as it has made for an avenue of Xmas presents for
the guy who has everything for a few years coming now... ;)

~Brett (N7MG)

On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 14:36 -0700, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> Some companies bring out new transceiver models every year or two. Our
> philosophy is different. We'll continue improving the K3, protecting
> your investment. Similarly, the P3 and KPA500 will extend the
> capabilities of the K3 without any need to replace the rig itself.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
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David Guernsey

Re: A thought regarding new radios

Brett -

You hit the nail on the head. Bought my K3/10 with ATU with full intentions of adding other options as I could afford them. My next items to add are the KXV3A and KPA100. They are on my Christmas list with a note that even part of the cost as a gift would be niice.

73s de Dave KJ6CBS

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Sent: Sun, July 4, 2010 2:59:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A thought regarding new radios

And don't forget you also improve value by not having to pay for
features that you won't use. Don't need a tuner? You don't have to pay
for one... Don't want two receivers? You don't have to pay for both of
them...

Then on another note... Want two receivers but don't have the money to
pay for one now? Get on the air with part of the radio and add that
which you want later...

My family loves my K3 as it has made for an avenue of Xmas presents for
the guy who has everything for a few years coming now... ;)

~Brett (N7MG)

On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 14:36 -0700, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> Some companies bring out new transceiver models every year or two. Our
> philosophy is different. We'll continue improving the K3, protecting
> your investment. Similarly, the P3 and KPA500 will extend the
> capabilities of the K3 without any need to replace the rig itself.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
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