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w4giw
I tried for the first time to use the scan function of the K3. I wanted to scan part of 6 meters. I got a message that stated "scan no allowed on this band" any way to change the set up to be able to scan 6 meters in the US. Thanks Van W4GIW
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Re: scan

Don Wilhelm-4
Van,

My understanding is that there is some obscure FCC regulation that in
the case of the K3 band coverage prevents scanning above 30 MHz.  I have
heard here on the reflector that Elecraft is working to get this
restriction removed, but I have heard no real info about it.

73,
Don W3FPR

van fair wrote:
> I tried for the first time to use the scan function of the K3. I wanted to scan part of 6 meters. I got a message that stated "scan no allowed on this band" any way to change the set up to be able to scan 6 meters in the US. Thanks Van W4GIW
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Re: scan

Julian, G4ILO
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w4giw wrote
I tried for the first time to use the scan function of the K3. I wanted to scan part of 6 meters. I got a message that stated "scan no allowed on this band" any way to change the set up to be able to scan 6 meters in the US. Thanks Van W4GIW
Yes there is, but if I told you, then I'd have to kill you.

Contact k3support@elecraft.com. If you live in part of the world where it is OK to scan 6 meters, they will give you the secret, "for your eyes only."
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222 KX3 #110
* G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
* KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
* KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html
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Re: scan

n7ws
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I'm no lawyer but reading the regulations here:

http://www.fcc.gov/oet/info/rules/part15/PART15_07-10-08.pdf

I see this:

Scanning Receiver. For the purpose of this part,
this is a receiver that automatically switches among four or more
frequencies in the range of 30 to 960 MHz and which is capable
of stopping at and receiving a radio signal detected on a frequency.
Receivers designed solely for the reception of the broadcast signals
under part 73 of this chapter or for operation as part of a licensed
station are not included in this definition.

My interpretation is that my K3 is part of the equipment at N7WS, an FCC licensed station, and is exempt from the regulation.



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From: van fair <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Elecraft] scan
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 9:19 AM

I tried for the first time to use the scan function of the K3. I wanted to scan part of 6 meters. I got a message that stated "scan no allowed on this band" any way to change the set up to be able to scan 6 meters in the US. Thanks Van W4GIW
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Jack Smith-6
I am a lawyer who practiced telecommunications law for many years.

In the 1999 revision of 47 CFR 15.3(v), ET Docket 98-76 which adopted
the current definition of "scanning receiver," the FCC said, in response
to the ARRL's suggested changes:

With regard to ARRL's request, we note that, as under the
current definition, Amateur Radio Service receivers, like receivers used in conjunction with other licensed
radio services, do not fall under the definition of a scanning receiver in 47 CFR Sect. 15.3(v) unless the
receiver scans frequencies outside of the licensed operating frequencies, e.g., outside of the bands allocated
to the Amateur Radio Service.


http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/Orders/1999/fcc99058.txt

Hence, so long as the receiver scans within amateur radio frequencies
above 30 MHz, it is exempt from the scanning restriction.

I am now retired and do not have access to a proper legal database, but
the 1999 statement seems  to be the definitive word from what I can find.

Jack K8ZOA


[hidden email] wrote:

> I'm no lawyer but reading the regulations here:
>
> http://www.fcc.gov/oet/info/rules/part15/PART15_07-10-08.pdf
>
> I see this:
>
> Scanning Receiver. For the purpose of this part,
> this is a receiver that automatically switches among four or more
> frequencies in the range of 30 to 960 MHz and which is capable
> of stopping at and receiving a radio signal detected on a frequency.
> Receivers designed solely for the reception of the broadcast signals
> under part 73 of this chapter or for operation as part of a licensed
> station are not included in this definition.
>
> My interpretation is that my K3 is part of the equipment at N7WS, an FCC licensed station, and is exempt from the regulation.
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 6/27/09, van fair <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> From: van fair <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] scan
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 9:19 AM
>
> I tried for the first time to use the scan function of the K3. I wanted to scan part of 6 meters. I got a message that stated "scan no allowed on this band" any way to change the set up to be able to scan 6 meters in the US. Thanks Van W4GIW
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