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riese-k3djc
Gang

last week there was a thread on soldering stations,, before I ordered one
I lost a week of e mail... I dont want to start the thread again but
could
someone off list give me a head up on the recommended station
I believe it had an isolated tip etc

Bob K3DJC

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Re: soldering station

Don Wilhelm-4
  Bob,

The Hakko 936 gets very high marks with most of those who have one, but
there are others that are also good.

73,
Don W3FPR

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> Gang
>
> last week there was a thread on soldering stations,, before I ordered one
> I lost a week of e mail... I dont want to start the thread again but
> could
> someone off list give me a head up on the recommended station
> I believe it had an isolated tip etc
>
> Bob K3DJC
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Re: soldering station

Johnny Siu
Hello Gentleman,

I am using a 'Chinese version' of Hakko 936 which is 1/4 of the price.  The
trick is to replace the original soldering tip with the same from 'Goot' - made
in Japan.
 cheers,


Johnny VR2XMC



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  Bob,

The Hakko 936 gets very high marks with most of those who have one, but
there are others that are also good.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/13/2010 8:48 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> Gang
>
> last week there was a thread on soldering stations,, before I ordered one
> I lost a week of e mail... I dont want to start the thread again but
> could
> someone off list give me a head up on the recommended station
> I believe it had an isolated tip etc
>
> Bob K3DJC



     
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Re: Re: soldering station

Don Wilhelm-4
  Perhaps this is the soldering station being sold by Circuit
Specialists that looks like a Hakko 936 "knockoff".
I buy quality tools, and do not fool with less expensive imitations.  In
my experience, that has been a good decision.  The times I have tried
inexpensive substitutes, there has always been some sort of
disappointment - like finding parts at a later date, or cheap tools that
break and cause injury (the best example is inexpensive mechanics wrenches).
When I am in the market for tools, I will choose quality and proven
reliability over price - low quality tools can be dangerous in my
experience.  While cost is still a consideration, if one is to have
these tools for years, quality  and a reliable source of replacement
parts should be a major factor.

A Chinese "knockoff" that you must purchase tips from Japan to obtain
similar performance does not sound like a good and long life alternative
to me.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/13/2010 9:24 PM, Johnny Siu wrote:

> Hello Gentleman,
>
> I am using a 'Chinese version' of Hakko 936 which is 1/4 of the price.  The
> trick is to replace the original soldering tip with the same from 'Goot' - made
> in Japan.
>   cheers,
>
>
> Johnny VR2XMC
>
>
>
> ----- 郵件原件 ----
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> 收件人﹕ [hidden email]
> 副本(CC) [hidden email]
> 傳送日期﹕ 2010/11/14 (日) 10:18:21 AM
> 主題: Re: [Elecraft] soldering station
>
>    Bob,
>
> The Hakko 936 gets very high marks with most of those who have one, but
> there are others that are also good.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 11/13/2010 8:48 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>> Gang
>>
>> last week there was a thread on soldering stations,, before I ordered one
>> I lost a week of e mail... I dont want to start the thread again but
>> could
>> someone off list give me a head up on the recommended station
>> I believe it had an isolated tip etc
>>
>> Bob K3DJC
>
>
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Re: Re: soldering station

K2QI
I use an Aoyue 937+ which I bought for around 50 dollars. Has lots of tip
choices. I believe the Hakko tips will fit also.  This soldering station's
temperature is digitally controlled and the tip is ESD protected.

73,
James K2QI

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:

>  Perhaps this is the soldering station being sold by Circuit
> Specialists that looks like a Hakko 936 "knockoff".
> I buy quality tools, and do not fool with less expensive imitations.  In
> my experience, that has been a good decision.  The times I have tried
> inexpensive substitutes, there has always been some sort of
> disappointment - like finding parts at a later date, or cheap tools that
> break and cause injury (the best example is inexpensive mechanics
> wrenches).
> When I am in the market for tools, I will choose quality and proven
> reliability over price - low quality tools can be dangerous in my
> experience.  While cost is still a consideration, if one is to have
> these tools for years, quality  and a reliable source of replacement
> parts should be a major factor.
>
> A Chinese "knockoff" that you must purchase tips from Japan to obtain
> similar performance does not sound like a good and long life alternative
> to me.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 11/13/2010 9:24 PM, Johnny Siu wrote:
> > Hello Gentleman,
> >
> > I am using a 'Chinese version' of Hakko 936 which is 1/4 of the price.
>  The
> > trick is to replace the original soldering tip with the same from 'Goot'
> - made
> > in Japan.
> >   cheers,
> >
> >
> > Johnny VR2XMC
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- 郵件原件 ----
> > 寄件人﹕ Don Wilhelm<[hidden email]>
> > 收件人﹕ [hidden email]
> > 副本(CC) [hidden email]
> > 傳送日期﹕ 2010/11/14 (日) 10:18:21 AM
> > 主題: Re: [Elecraft] soldering station
> >
> >    Bob,
> >
> > The Hakko 936 gets very high marks with most of those who have one, but
> > there are others that are also good.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
> > On 11/13/2010 8:48 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> >> Gang
> >>
> >> last week there was a thread on soldering stations,, before I ordered
> one
> >> I lost a week of e mail... I dont want to start the thread again but
> >> could
> >> someone off list give me a head up on the recommended station
> >> I believe it had an isolated tip etc
> >>
> >> Bob K3DJC
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Re: soldering station

w2bvh
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  I use a Metcal at work & think its the best I've ever seen.
Its just too expensive for mere mortals (they cost more used than many
stations do brand new. :-)

--Lenny W2BVH

On 11/13/2010 9:24 PM, Johnny Siu wrote:

> Hello Gentleman,
>
> I am using a 'Chinese version' of Hakko 936 which is 1/4 of the price.  The
> trick is to replace the original soldering tip with the same from 'Goot' - made
> in Japan.
> Â cheers,
>
>
> Johnny VR2XMC
>
>
>
> ----- 郵件原件 ----
> 寄件人﹕ Don Wilhelm<[hidden email]>
> 收件人﹕ [hidden email]
> 副本(CC) [hidden email]
> 傳送日期﹕ 2010/11/14 (日) 10:18:21 AM
> 主題: Re: [Elecraft] soldering station
>
> Â  Bob,
>
> The Hakko 936 gets very high marks with most of those who have one, but
> there are others that are also good.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 11/13/2010 8:48 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>> Gang
>>
>> last week there was a thread on soldering stations,, before I ordered one
>> I lost a week of e mail... I dont want to start the thread again but
>> could
>> someone off list give me a head up on the recommended station
>> I believe it had an isolated tip etc
>>
>> Bob K3DJC
>
>
>
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Re: Re: soldering station

P.B. Christensen
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The Aoyue, CSI, and Hakko should use interchangeable tips and heaters.  The
Aoyue 937/937+ appears identical to the Circuit Specialist (CSI) and
essentially the same has the Hakko 936/937.  Analog Aoyue/CSI sells for
about USD $40.   Digital about $5 more.  I think if I was going to pay
Hakko's price, I would lean toward the Weller WES51 at USD $95.

Paul, W9AC


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Cc: <[hidden email]>
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: soldering station


>I use an Aoyue 937+ which I bought for around 50 dollars. Has lots of tip
> choices. I believe the Hakko tips will fit also.  This soldering station's
> temperature is digitally controlled and the tip is ESD protected.
>
> 73,
> James K2QI
>
> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>  Perhaps this is the soldering station being sold by Circuit
>> Specialists that looks like a Hakko 936 "knockoff".
>> I buy quality tools, and do not fool with less expensive imitations.  In
>> my experience, that has been a good decision.  The times I have tried
>> inexpensive substitutes, there has always been some sort of
>> disappointment - like finding parts at a later date, or cheap tools that
>> break and cause injury (the best example is inexpensive mechanics
>> wrenches).
>> When I am in the market for tools, I will choose quality and proven
>> reliability over price - low quality tools can be dangerous in my
>> experience.  While cost is still a consideration, if one is to have
>> these tools for years, quality  and a reliable source of replacement
>> parts should be a major factor.
>>
>> A Chinese "knockoff" that you must purchase tips from Japan to obtain
>> similar performance does not sound like a good and long life alternative
>> to me.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 11/13/2010 9:24 PM, Johnny Siu wrote:
>> > Hello Gentleman,
>> >
>> > I am using a 'Chinese version' of Hakko 936 which is 1/4 of the price.
>>  The
>> > trick is to replace the original soldering tip with the same from
>> > 'Goot'
>> - made
>> > in Japan.
>> >   cheers,
>> >
>> >
>> > Johnny VR2XMC
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- 郵件原件 ----
>> > 寄件人﹕ Don Wilhelm<[hidden email]>
>> > 收件人﹕ [hidden email]
>> > 副本(CC) [hidden email]
>> > 傳送日期﹕ 2010/11/14 (日) 10:18:21 AM
>> > 主題: Re: [Elecraft] soldering station
>> >
>> >    Bob,
>> >
>> > The Hakko 936 gets very high marks with most of those who have one, but
>> > there are others that are also good.
>> >
>> > 73,
>> > Don W3FPR
>> >
>> > On 11/13/2010 8:48 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>> >> Gang
>> >>
>> >> last week there was a thread on soldering stations,, before I ordered
>> one
>> >> I lost a week of e mail... I dont want to start the thread again but
>> >> could
>> >> someone off list give me a head up on the recommended station
>> >> I believe it had an isolated tip etc
>> >>
>> >> Bob K3DJC
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ______________________________________________________________
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Re: Re: soldering station

Johnny Siu
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Yes, James.  I have been using Aoyue 937 as well for nearly 4 years.
 cheers,


Johnny VR2XMC



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主題: Re: [Elecraft] Re: soldering station

I use an Aoyue 937+ which I bought for around 50 dollars. Has lots of tip
choices. I believe the Hakko tips will fit also.  This soldering station's
temperature is digitally controlled and the tip is ESD protected.

73,
James K2QI

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:

>  Perhaps this is the soldering station being sold by Circuit
> Specialists that looks like a Hakko 936 "knockoff".
> I buy quality tools, and do not fool with less expensive imitations.  In
> my experience, that has been a good decision.  The times I have tried
> inexpensive substitutes, there has always been some sort of
> disappointment - like finding parts at a later date, or cheap tools that
> break and cause injury (the best example is inexpensive mechanics
> wrenches).
> When I am in the market for tools, I will choose quality and proven
> reliability over price - low quality tools can be dangerous in my
> experience.  While cost is still a consideration, if one is to have
> these tools for years, quality  and a reliable source of replacement
> parts should be a major factor.
>
> A Chinese "knockoff" that you must purchase tips from Japan to obtain
> similar performance does not sound like a good and long life alternative
> to me.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 11/13/2010 9:24 PM, Johnny Siu wrote:
> > Hello Gentleman,
> >
> > I am using a 'Chinese version' of Hakko 936 which is 1/4 of the price.
>  The
> > trick is to replace the original soldering tip with the same from 'Goot'
> - made
> > in Japan.
> >  cheers,
> >
> >
> > Johnny VR2XMC
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soldering station

Johnny Siu
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Oh yes, my Aoyue only costs me US$20 in Hong Kong.
 cheers,


Johnny VR2XMC



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The Aoyue, CSI, and Hakko should use interchangeable tips and heaters.  The
Aoyue 937/937+ appears identical to the Circuit Specialist (CSI) and
essentially the same has the Hakko 936/937.  Analog Aoyue/CSI sells for
about USD $40.  Digital about $5 more.  I think if I was going to pay
Hakko's price, I would lean toward the Weller WES51 at USD $95.

Paul, W9AC


----- Original Message -----
From: "James Sarte" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Cc: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: soldering station


>I use an Aoyue 937+ which I bought for around 50 dollars. Has lots of tip
> choices. I believe the Hakko tips will fit also.  This soldering station's
> temperature is digitally controlled and the tip is ESD protected.
>
> 73,
> James K2QI
>
> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>  Perhaps this is the soldering station being sold by Circuit
>> Specialists that looks like a Hakko 936 "knockoff".
>> I buy quality tools, and do not fool with less expensive imitations.  In
>> my experience, that has been a good decision.  The times I have tried
>> inexpensive substitutes, there has always been some sort of
>> disappointment - like finding parts at a later date, or cheap tools that
>> break and cause injury (the best example is inexpensive mechanics
>> wrenches).
>> When I am in the market for tools, I will choose quality and proven
>> reliability over price - low quality tools can be dangerous in my
>> experience.  While cost is still a consideration, if one is to have
>> these tools for years, quality  and a reliable source of replacement
>> parts should be a major factor.
>>
>> A Chinese "knockoff" that you must purchase tips from Japan to obtain
>> similar performance does not sound like a good and long life alternative
>> to me.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 11/13/2010 9:24 PM, Johnny Siu wrote:
>> > Hello Gentleman,
>> >
>> > I am using a 'Chinese version' of Hakko 936 which is 1/4 of the price.
>>  The
>> > trick is to replace the original soldering tip with the same from
>> > 'Goot'
>> - made
>> > in Japan.
>> >  cheers,
>> >
>> >
>> > Johnny VR2XMC
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- 郵件原件 ----
>> > 寄件人﹕ Don Wilhelm<[hidden email]>
>> > 收件人﹕ [hidden email]
>> > 副本(CC) [hidden email]
>> > 傳送日期﹕ 2010/11/14 (日) 10:18:21 AM
>> > 主題: Re: [Elecraft] soldering station
>> >
>> >    Bob,
>> >
>> > The Hakko 936 gets very high marks with most of those who have one, but
>> > there are others that are also good.
>> >
>> > 73,
>> > Don W3FPR
>> >
>> > On 11/13/2010 8:48 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>> >> Gang
>> >>
>> >> last week there was a thread on soldering stations,, before I ordered
>> one
>> >> I lost a week of e mail... I dont want to start the thread again but
>> >> could
>> >> someone off list give me a head up on the recommended station
>> >> I believe it had an isolated tip etc
>> >>
>> >> Bob K3DJC
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ______________________________________________________________
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>> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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Re: Re: soldering station

Hardy Landskov
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I use a couple of  Therm-o-Trac irons made by Hexacon. They are very good
for surface mount work.
Metcals are good & expensive as you pointed out but they produce short range
RFI.
Hardy N7RT

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>  I use a Metcal at work & think its the best I've ever seen.
> Its just too expensive for mere mortals (they cost more used than many
> stations do brand new. :-)
>
> --Lenny W2BVH
>
> On 11/13/2010 9:24 PM, Johnny Siu wrote:
>> Hello Gentleman,
>>
>> I am using a 'Chinese version' of Hakko 936 which is 1/4 of the price.Â
>> The
>> trick is to replace the original soldering tip with the same from
>> 'Goot'Â - made
>> in Japan.
>> Â cheers,
>>
>>
>> Johnny VR2XMC
>>
>>
>>
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>> 主題: Re: [Elecraft] soldering station
>>
>> Â  Bob,
>>
>> The Hakko 936 gets very high marks with most of those who have one, but
>> there are others that are also good.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 11/13/2010 8:48 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>>> Gang
>>>
>>> last week there was a thread on soldering stations,, before I ordered
>>> one
>>> I lost a week of e mail... I dont want to start the thread again but
>>> could
>>> someone off list give me a head up on the recommended station
>>> I believe it had an isolated tip etc
>>>
>>> Bob K3DJC
>>
>>
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Re: soldering station

daleputnam
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As we consider the lowly soldering station, may I ask the consesus of the hot air/soldering station combo... i.e. which is the preferred, and has the best longevity?
 I've had two of the KADA 852 units and three hot air guns break, within hours of initial use. Anyone for any better results?
I need hot air, temp and volume controllable, and a temp controlled solder iron similar to the weller. AND.. it would be real nice if it would shut itself off after a short period of nonuse. Say... 10 minutes. And the hot air gun/wand, could shut off when returned to its holder. Not a tuff circuit to build.
  Any suggestions? And no, I am not looking for the $1000 plus machines either.
 

--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy


 

     
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Re: Re: Re: soldering station

K2QI
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It's a nice little iron for the price, that's for sure.

The manual could use a better translation though.  The only weird thing
that's ever happened to it is, that the LCD readout sometimes starts
blinking some strange code.  Unfortunately, there's no mention of it in the
instructions.  It still works well though, and if it ever died, they're
cheap enough to replace.

73,
James K2QI

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Johnny Siu <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Yes, James.  I have been using Aoyue 937 as well for nearly 4 years.
>  cheers,
>
>
> Johnny VR2XMC
>
>
>
> ----- 郵件原件 ----
> 寄件人﹕ James Sarte <[hidden email]>
> 收件人﹕ [hidden email]
> 副本(CC) [hidden email]
> 傳送日期﹕ 2010/11/14 (日) 10:54:31 AM
> 主題: Re: [Elecraft] Re: soldering station
>
> I use an Aoyue 937+ which I bought for around 50 dollars. Has lots of tip
> choices. I believe the Hakko tips will fit also.  This soldering station's
> temperature is digitally controlled and the tip is ESD protected.
>
> 73,
> James K2QI
>
> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> >  Perhaps this is the soldering station being sold by Circuit
> > Specialists that looks like a Hakko 936 "knockoff".
> > I buy quality tools, and do not fool with less expensive imitations.  In
> > my experience, that has been a good decision.  The times I have tried
> > inexpensive substitutes, there has always been some sort of
> > disappointment - like finding parts at a later date, or cheap tools that
> > break and cause injury (the best example is inexpensive mechanics
> > wrenches).
> > When I am in the market for tools, I will choose quality and proven
> > reliability over price - low quality tools can be dangerous in my
> > experience.  While cost is still a consideration, if one is to have
> > these tools for years, quality  and a reliable source of replacement
> > parts should be a major factor.
> >
> > A Chinese "knockoff" that you must purchase tips from Japan to obtain
> > similar performance does not sound like a good and long life alternative
> > to me.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
> > On 11/13/2010 9:24 PM, Johnny Siu wrote:
> > > Hello Gentleman,
> > >
> > > I am using a 'Chinese version' of Hakko 936 which is 1/4 of the price.
> >  The
> > > trick is to replace the original soldering tip with the same from
> 'Goot'
> > - made
> > > in Japan.
> > >  cheers,
> > >
> > >
> > > Johnny VR2XMC
> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htm> >
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: Re: soldering station

K2QI
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Hi Don,

The Aoyue 937 that I have isn't as well built as its American counterparts.
 However, it gets the job done well at an affordable price.  Personally, I
don't solder too often, so spending a lot of money on a quality station
didn't really make sense to me.  On the other hand, someone like you or
someone who uses a soldering iron for a living should definitely invest in a
better product.  There's no argument from me there.

BTW, the tips that I purchased all came from Stan Rubinstein and Associates
here in the USA:  http://www.sra-solder.com/

The tips also work in the Hakko units.

73,
James K2QI

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:

>  Perhaps this is the soldering station being sold by Circuit
> Specialists that looks like a Hakko 936 "knockoff".
> I buy quality tools, and do not fool with less expensive imitations.  In
> my experience, that has been a good decision.  The times I have tried
> inexpensive substitutes, there has always been some sort of
> disappointment - like finding parts at a later date, or cheap tools that
> break and cause injury (the best example is inexpensive mechanics
> wrenches).
> When I am in the market for tools, I will choose quality and proven
> reliability over price - low quality tools can be dangerous in my
> experience.  While cost is still a consideration, if one is to have
> these tools for years, quality  and a reliable source of replacement
> parts should be a major factor.
>
> A Chinese "knockoff" that you must purchase tips from Japan to obtain
> similar performance does not sound like a good and long life alternative
> to me.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 11/13/2010 9:24 PM, Johnny Siu wrote:
> > Hello Gentleman,
> >
> > I am using a 'Chinese version' of Hakko 936 which is 1/4 of the price.
>  The
> > trick is to replace the original soldering tip with the same from 'Goot'
> - made
> > in Japan.
> >   cheers,
> >
> >
> > Johnny VR2XMC
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- 郵件原件 ----
> > 寄件人﹕ Don Wilhelm<[hidden email]>
> > 收件人﹕ [hidden email]
> > 副本(CC) [hidden email]
> > 傳送日期﹕ 2010/11/14 (日) 10:18:21 AM
> > 主題: Re: [Elecraft] soldering station
> >
> >    Bob,
> >
> > The Hakko 936 gets very high marks with most of those who have one, but
> > there are others that are also good.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
> > On 11/13/2010 8:48 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> >> Gang
> >>
> >> last week there was a thread on soldering stations,, before I ordered
> one
> >> I lost a week of e mail... I dont want to start the thread again but
> >> could
> >> someone off list give me a head up on the recommended station
> >> I believe it had an isolated tip etc
> >>
> >> Bob K3DJC
> >
> >
> >
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soldering station

Johnny Siu
Hi James,

Very true indeed.  If I were using soldering iron for a living, I would go for
the best without single hesitation.

At first, I also hesitate to use Aoyue 937 until I saw them frequently used in
local repair shops.
 cheers,


Johnny VR2XMC



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傳送日期﹕ 2010/11/14 (日) 3:13:07 PM
主題: Re: [Elecraft] Re: soldering station

Hi Don,

The Aoyue 937 that I have isn't as well built as its American counterparts.
However, it gets the job done well at an affordable price.  Personally, I
don't solder too often, so spending a lot of money on a quality station
didn't really make sense to me.  On the other hand, someone like you or
someone who uses a soldering iron for a living should definitely invest in a
better product.  There's no argument from me there.

BTW, the tips that I purchased all came from Stan Rubinstein and Associates
here in the USA:  http://www.sra-solder.com/

The tips also work in the Hakko units.

73,
James K2QI

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:

>  Perhaps this is the soldering station being sold by Circuit
> Specialists that looks like a Hakko 936 "knockoff".
> I buy quality tools, and do not fool with less expensive imitations.  In
> my experience, that has been a good decision.  The times I have tried
> inexpensive substitutes, there has always been some sort of
> disappointment - like finding parts at a later date, or cheap tools that
> break and cause injury (the best example is inexpensive mechanics
> wrenches).
> When I am in the market for tools, I will choose quality and proven
> reliability over price - low quality tools can be dangerous in my
> experience.  While cost is still a consideration, if one is to have
> these tools for years, quality  and a reliable source of replacement
> parts should be a major factor.
>
> A Chinese "knockoff" that you must purchase tips from Japan to obtain
> similar performance does not sound like a good and long life alternative
> to me.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR



     
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Re: soldering station

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Re: soldering station

P.B. Christensen
One point not mentioned earlier is that there's a difference between
"temperature control," where the tip contains a sensor and soldering
stations advertised as "variable temperature."  The better stations contain
a tip temperature sensor.  It's easy to be deceived in purchasing the wrong
type of station based on unusually low price and the wording used in an ad.

Paul, W9AC


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From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] soldering station


> The Weller WES51 and the Aoyue 937 were both highly recommended (I don't
> have experience with either. I use a Hakko 936, also an excellent
> soldering
> station). The Hakko has a grounded tip. I don't know whether the others
> are
> isolated or grounded.
>
> I note that Amazon.com has a sale going on featuring the WES56 and Aoyue
> 937. Don't know how competitive the prices are overall - I didn't check
> other sites.
>
> Ron AC7AC
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Gang
>
> last week there was a thread on soldering stations,, before I ordered one
> I lost a week of e mail... I dont want to start the thread again but
> could
> someone off list give me a head up on the recommended station
> I believe it had an isolated tip etc
>
> Bob K3DJC
>
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Re: soldering station

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Re: soldering station

Mel
Well, my favorite is the METCAL PS2E-01.  Takes all tip configurations and temp
ranges.  An older unit, but has never failed in over 15 years.  Price used is
$130 up but worth every penny.  Check them out on the web.


Mel, K6KBE




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From: Ron D'Eau Claire <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 9:48:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] soldering station

Egad! Are they still around? Decades ago we used to make "variable
temperature" irons plugging a conventional iron into a Variac. The ARRL
handbook included a piece on using a (then new) lamp dimmer to vary the
power to a conventional iron.

I can say for from experience that the Hakko has a temp sensor and is
variable temperature. It is spec'd at maintaining idle tip temperature
within 1 degree C.

Ron AC7AC

-----Original Message-----

One point not mentioned earlier is that there's a difference between
"temperature control," where the tip contains a sensor and soldering
stations advertised as "variable temperature."  The better stations contain
a tip temperature sensor.  It's easy to be deceived in purchasing the wrong
type of station based on unusually low price and the wording used in an ad.

Paul, W9AC


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