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Re: K3: RF Gain, Squelch

Posted by Don Wilhelm-4 on Jan 12, 2010; 3:07pm
URL: http://elecraft.85.s1.nabble.com/K3-RF-Gain-Squelch-tp4289745p4292121.html

Dave,

The 6 kHz filter is mandatory for AM and/or ESSB *transmit*.
For AM receive only, the 6 kHz IF bandpass reduces to a maximum AF
frequency of 3 kHz after de-modulation of both sidebands.
The 13 kHz "FM" filter can certainly be used for AM receive, and the K3
audio response can go as high as 4 kHz (that is the limit set in the
DSP).  If you encounter AM stations that are strong and are on adjacent
frequencies, then the 13 kHz filter may be too wide.

So how to obtain a full audio bandwidth with AM and the 6 kHz filter? -
that has now been answered with the inclusion of Sync AM reception -
that only uses one of the sidebands, the SHIFT knob changes from USB to
LSB, so one can enjoy the full audio bandwidth that the K3 offers using
that mode.  Your 6 kHz filter is NOT a 'waste' after all.

73,
Don W3FPR


David Y. wrote:

> Don and All,
>
> Your last post raises a question in my mind--it probably has been
> discussed before, and if so, I missed it.  I must admit that the
> number of posts on this reflector is often overwhelming, and I'm sure
> I get too quick with the delete key.
>
> Here's the question--I bought the 6 khz filter, but not the 13 khz
> filter. I don't do AM, and probably won't do much, if any FM, but I
> suppose the possibility is there for a very small amount of FM on 10
> meters perhaps. Anyway, I bought the 6 khz filter, primarily to
> accomodate any SW listening I might do.  So, would I have been better
> off to buy the 13 khz filter instead of the 6 khz filter?  That sounds
> like what you did.  I assume I could just use the 13 khz filter for AM
> listening, and use the DSP to narrow things appropriately.  I wouldn't
> have a 6 khz roofing filter, but would I really be at much of a
> disadvantage for the type of use I describe above? For some reason, I
> thought the 6 khz filter was mandatory for AM, but maybe I misread
> that (or misinterpreted what I think I read!).
>
> By the way, your discussion of how to set the RF gain makes a great
> deal of sense to me.  It is, in fact, what I have been doing
> intuitively.  My RF gain is almost always set at something like 12
> o'clock or so--maybe a tad bit higher.  My "excursion range" with the
> RF gain rarely goes beyond the 2 o'clock position, even on very weak
> signals.  Beyond that all I seem to be doing is increasing the noise
> level with little or no improvement in the desired signal.  I rarely
> use the preamp, and find that it more often than not degrades what I
> am trying to hear.
>
> Dave W7AQK
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Cc: "Elecraft Discussion List" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 10:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: RF Gain, Squelch
>
>
>> Al,
>>
>> To look at it another way - look at the S-meter to observe the band
>> noise level, and then back off the RF gain until the S-meter is steady
>> at that same S-meter reading.  Of course, this should be done at a spot
>> in the band where no signals are present.
>>
>> That is a quick way to determine the optimum setting for the RF Gain
>> consistent with the greatest receiver dynamic range and one does not
>> have to listen to the constant band noise clutter.
>>
>> The other option is to just run with "all knobs full right" and put up
>> with listening to the band noise when there are gaps in the signal
>> level.
>>
>> Be aware that the AGC Threshold will also have a great effect on the
>> amount of band noise heard in the audio.  If the Threshold is set too
>> low, the receiver will go into AGC action on only the band noise.  I use
>> an AGC Threshold setting of 008 just for that reason (I know the default
>> is 005, but I think that is too low).
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>  
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