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Re: Info 080 and KPA100

Posted by Joe Hetrick-2 on Sep 26, 2007; 4:26pm
URL: http://elecraft.85.s1.nabble.com/Info-080-and-KPA100-tp453746p453750.html

Don,
        Thanks.  Morning < optimal coffee intake here.

        This leaves the ribbon cable between KPA and K2, or U1 firmware.  
Probably best to call Elecraft and get a replacement to verify this,  
then.

Joe, KC0VKN
On Sep 26, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Joe,
>
> No need to 'start with U4' since you have 5 volts at U1 pin 1.  
> Check my conditional statements - U4 and the others were *only* to  
> be investigated *if* there was a low voltage at U1 pin 1 - 4.9  
> volts is well within the tolerance for the 5 volt regulator output,  
> so the 5 volt rail is fine.  Your problem is either with a break in  
> the AUXBUS signal line back to the K2 (do continuity checks) *or* a  
> bad firmware chip in the KPA100.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> Joe Hetrick wrote:
>> Thanks Don (and Ken),
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2007, at 9:13 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>
>>> Joe,
>>>
>>> The info 080 message means that the K2 cannot communicate with  
>>> some other processor that is attached to the auxbus - in your  
>>> case, the KPA100.
>>>
>>> I would first check to see if there is 5 volts present at pin 1  
>>> of KPA100 U1.  If you have 5 volts there, then the problem can be  
>>> found somewhere on the AUXBUS signal itself between KPA100 U1 pin  
>>> 28 and K2 Control Board U6 pin 40 - this path involves the ribbon  
>>> cable and its connectors, use the schematic to follow the path  
>>> and check each point.  It may be that the KPA100 firmware chip  
>>> has become damaged, and the easiest way to determine that is to  
>>> replace it.
>>
>> I started this process before I left for work.  It was pointed out  
>> to me that I hadn't dug hard enough in the archives; tried again  
>> and found someone talking about problems with U6 causing this sort  
>> of behavior.  As an aside, I note one relay clacking when firing  
>> up the KPA.  There is a twitch of life.
>>
>> What I noted is:
>>
>> KPA U1 P1 has 4.9V
>> U6 pins 7 and 8 have 4.9V
>>
>> I also walked down the MAX to see what I could find, and it has  
>> 13.8V on P1.  I didn't bring the list with me, so I'm working from  
>> memory.
>>
>> I can wander down the rest of the AUXBUS chain as I go.  I shall  
>> start with U4 as you suggest below.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Joe, KC0VKN
>>
>>>
>>> If you do not have 5 volts at U1 pin 1, then there is a problem  
>>> with the 5 volt rail in the KPA100.  If you find zero volts, the  
>>> regulator is likely bad.  OTOH, if you have a small voltage  
>>> instead of 5 volts, the usual cause is that something is loading  
>>> down the regulator output - remove U1 and check for voltage again  
>>> - if that does not restore the 5 volt output, then one of the  
>>> other chips is at fault and you will have to remove them one at a  
>>> time to determine which one is bad - the suspect list (from most  
>>> likely to least) is U4, U6 and U5.  The KPA100 will work without  
>>> U4 installed (but will not have computer control functions  
>>> available), but if U5 or U6 are removed, the power control  
>>> circuits will not work and the KPA100 will develop full power  
>>> output.  If you realize that, you should know that you  can still  
>>> test the KPA100 to see if the info080 is gone, but do not expect  
>>> power control until you replace U5 and U6.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe Hetrick wrote:
>>>> Greetings folks,
>>>>
>>>>     If I may interrupt the K3 threads for just a moment...
>>>>
>>>> My K2 SN 4912 developed a fault sometime between last evening  
>>>> and this evening!  Upon jumping to the shack to
>>>> have a few relaxing QSO's before bed I was greeted by an INFO  
>>>> 080.  I figured I'd start by checking pins of RFU1 as in the
>>>> manual and pulled the KPA.  I fired it up without the KPA, and,  
>>>> problem disappears.
>>>>
>>>> Casual inspection of the KPA shows no fault, searching the list  
>>>> turns up no clues, and finally the KPA manual refers INFO 080  
>>>> back to the K2 manual.
>>>>
>>>> If I had to guess, I'd say auxbus short.
>>>>
>>>> With only the KPA connected (nothing external to the AUX RS232)  
>>>> fault remains.  Where should I start digging in the KPA?
>>>>
>>
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