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Re: Comparison: K3 and SDR 5000A

Posted by John A. McCabe on Oct 09, 2007; 5:53pm
URL: http://elecraft.85.s1.nabble.com/Comparison-K3-and-SDR-5000A-tp454268p454278.html

Hi Rich,

Actually, and correct me if I am wrong on this, but I believe that one
of the bigger issues with SDR's right now is with latency. There is some
delay in the processing of the signal on the computer which can cause
effects such as slower turn around time for CW/Digtal Modes, slightly
slower tuning, a slight delay in received and transmitted audio, etc. I
know there has been a lot of  improvement made in that area, but I don't
believe it is quite at the level of other radios such as the K3. .
Whether or not this latency is more or less more then serial control of
a radio, I am not sure. But I suspect that some of that might depend on
the baud rate of the radio. I have a TS-2000 set to 57600 baud and it
seems quite responsive, whereas my K2 which I believe is 4800 baud is
noticeably less responsive. I am not sure what the baud rate is on the
K3. And as far as booting up a computer, I work as a computer
consultant, and sometimes the last thing I want to do when I get home
from work is boot up my computer :)

John, KD8K



Richard Smith wrote:

> Thanks for the info on this program, John.  I'll download it and give
> it a try.
>
> My first reaction without trying the program (always dangerous) is
> that needing HRD sitting between the PowerSDR GUI and the K3, and
> controlling the K3 via serial commands, will leave users with the
> feeling that software control just isn't responsive enough for real
> world uses.  To me, even a slight delay in response, or waiting for
> the rig to catch up with the GUI user, is annoying enough for me to
> reach for the knobs.  It certainly won't cut it for competitive
> contesting.  The PowerSDR when used with the SDR-1000, and I assume
> the SDR-5000A as well, has an instantaneous "feel" to the software.  
> It feels very natural to tune, and no adjustment is necessary by the
> user to learn how to use it effectively.  It is a generation beyond
> what you propose in software control.  My beef with serial
> command-controlled hardware radios has always been the tuning "lag" I
> experience as I sweep the software controls up and down the band and
> the radio tries to keep up.  That is not the case with the PowerSDR
> running the SDR-1000 or 5000A.  Maybe the K3, the interface, the
> software and the PC will all be responsive enough to emulate the
> excellent "feel" of the PowerSDR running an SDR-5000A, but I'm
> skeptical it will.  Right now, this solution seems like a band-aid to me.
>
> Also, is booting a computer really an issue?  I use mine these days
> for so many things, it is always on or in standby.  I can play radio
> at anytime by simply clicking the PowerSDR icon.
>
> It will be interesting to see how things evolve.
>
> 73,
>
> Rich W1EZ
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John A. McCabe"
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>
>> Hi All
>>
>> "Since Power SDR has a Kenwood CAT interface, I would bet it would
>> relatively easy to couple PowerSDR with a SoftRock40, a relatively
>> inexpensive soundcard and a few lines of custom software to both
>> provide a "bandscope" and fully control the K3"
>>
>>
>> There already is a modified version of PowerSDR that is similar to
>> what you are describing. It is a version that works with Ham Radio
>> Deluxe and a Softrock to allow point and click bandscope tuning in
>> PowerSDR of any radio that has an IF out (which includes the K3) and
>> supported  by  Ham Radio Deluxe.  I have tried it and it does work
>> (Not on a K3 however, still waiting on mine like the rest of us). To
>> me this is the best of both worlds, a High performance K3 controlled
>> by computer and/or Knobs. Sometimes I just don't want to have to boot
>> my computer up to use my radio, and at other times the features of
>> bandscope point and click tuning would be nice.
>>
>> The software is at the following location: http://www.wu2x.com/sdr.html
>>
>> 73, John KD8K
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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