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Re: SSB transmit audio - Where's the punch?

Posted by Tim Tucker on Oct 04, 2010; 7:00pm
URL: http://elecraft.85.s1.nabble.com/SSB-transmit-audio-Where-s-the-punch-tp5600109p5600439.html

"Setting the compression that high really makes a huge difference in average
output "

It makes *some* difference in average output.  There is nothing I have been
able to do to get the K3's average output anywhere close to what my Icom 746
Pro would do.  The best average power numbers I have seen on my K3 with
various mic and settings combos are about 40-45 watts on specific syllables
or words.  Typically I see about 30 watts with normal speaking.   I have
tried with the built-in processing, with outboard compression, a combination
of the two, various mics, etc.  On my Icom 746 Pro, I see 65 watts AVG with
the same mic and outboard compression.   I spent hours doing the tests into
a dummy load, even comparing adding a Yaesu 897D into the mix for comparison
purposes.

The K3 sounds great IMO, but it does not have the same AVG SSB output power
of some other rigs available.  That may or may not be important to you, so
decide for yourself how much stock you put in that.  There are more details
of my findings here:
http://www.worldwidedx.com/hf-bands-hf-rigs/73806-elecraft-k3-review-2.html#post228882.
Personally, I think it would be interesting to see someone do the same tests
using some better test bench gear.  I've sold most of mine...

Tim



On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Rob May <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> The K3 has sufficient equalization to tailor the sound of any microphone,
> the external equalizer is completely unneeded in my opinion.  My cheap-o
> computer gaming headset sounds really good (through the monitor) and gets
> great reports on the air.  When chasing DX or during a contest I'll turn the
> compression up to 25.  I've heard my signal through a couple of different
> radios that have their output online.  The audio is surprisingly good.
>  Setting the compression that high really makes a huge difference in average
> output and it makes a big difference on the other end.
> Rob
> NV5E
>
>
> > From: [hidden email]
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 13:41:06 -0400
> > Subject: [Elecraft] SSB transmit audio - Where's the punch?
> >
> > I need some advice in how to get the same punch my fellow contester gets
> on
> > his FT-1000MP.  He claims the K-3 audio will never be as good as Yaesu,
> > Kenwood, or ICOM.
> >
> >
> >
> > Yesterday we spent several hours between ourselves and several European
> > stations tuning and testing.  I never got a bad audio report, BUT I never
> > got a report I had the same PUNCH!!!  He reduced power and still
> overtalked
> > me.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have tried HC-4, HC-5, and HC-6 using W2IHY eight band EQ with the
> EQPlus
> > with some compression from the K-3.
> >
> >
> >
> > I need some ideas before the next contest.
> >
> >
> >
> > 73, Dick, WN3R
> >
> >
> >
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