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Re: SSB transmit audio - Where's the punch?

Posted by Joe Subich, W4TV-4 on Oct 05, 2010; 7:43pm
URL: http://elecraft.85.s1.nabble.com/SSB-transmit-audio-Where-s-the-punch-tp5600109p5604565.html


 > Now you have K3 users with no clue about how to set the TX eq and
 > clipping level OPTIONS to get the IDENTICAL shape to their voices on a
 > K3 as the other rigs.  There actually is a clarity advantage to the
 > K3's clipping method IF you know where to set all the options.

How very true ...

As K9YC (and others) has often advised, start by setting the first two
(LF) bands of the TX Eq to -16 and set the third (200 Hz) to - 9dB or
lower.  Set the top three bands for at least 3 dB/octave (+3, +5, +6
dB) boost ... that works well with a mic that has some natural high
frequency boost like the HC-4.  For flatter mics (like the new HC-6
or a CM-500) use more high frequency boost (between +6. +10, +12 dB
and  +9, +16, +16 dB) to provide clarity.  Since the human voice has
little energy in the 600 - 1200 Hz band, I like to add a bit of a
"notch" in the middle (-6dB at 800 Hz) ... cutting that band helps
to reduce background noise without impacting voice quality.

With reasonable adjustments to enhance the frequencies important for
communications (vs. some "golden ear" belief in a bandwidth more
appropriate to classical music), reducing the power wasted in the
lower octaves that do not contribute to enunciation, and 10 to 15 dB
of clipping, the K3 can more than hold it own while remaining very
clean compared to the Yaecomwood rigs that drive the PA into clipping
in order to generate ALC!

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 10/5/2010 2:23 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

> A lot of the "punch" on older rigs is because the low end rolloff on
> TX for communications audio IS IN THE TX components and cannot be
> changed or "optioned" out.  The K3, to satisfy all the vocal desirers
> of options, lets the user set everything, so that every body can have
> it his own way, from "I want my beautiful deep bass voice to be heard
> on ESSB", to contesters' "I just want my highs out there on the power
> peaks, I ONLY care about maximum QSO's, fidelity be damned".
>
> In the old analog rigs, all that stuff was wired in, one resistor and
> capacitor at a time, and the choice implied by the discrete components
> used was THE choice, PERIOD.  I note that some of the rigs quoted
> earlier are in that collection.  What was done in those was to favor a
> highs-emphasized TX audio, with as little distortion as possible.
> SOME clipping helped with average power.   ESSB advocates should note
> that NONE of those emphasized the bass, unless someone went in and
> monkeyed with the discrete components, or put a banded preamp between
> the mic and the rig.
>
> What that state of affairs did was ENFORCE a defacto communications
> audio default, very soft on bass and hard on highs.
>
> Now you have K3 users with no clue about how to set the TX eq and
> clipping level OPTIONS to get the IDENTICAL shape to their voices on a
> K3 as the other rigs.  There actually is a clarity advantage to the
> K3's clipping method IF you know where to set all the options.
>
> The problem is that in the bright new digital world, with options to
> satisfy every conceivable preference, ONE HAS TO KNOW HOW TO SET THE
> OPTIONS AND LEVELS TO GET WHAT HE WANTS.  Add that to NOBODY EVER
> WANTS TO READ THE MANUAL. (I, personally am no better than anyone else
> here, I HATE reading manuals.)  With the combo you get complaints that
> "My K3 is broken" because the user doesn't know that's an option and
> he has to set it his way in that menu.  Likely perceived awful and
> confusing, because to understand the menu you have to read the manual.
>   And there are so many optional behaviors that keeping up the manual
> is a real piece of work, and requires the most talented of technical
> writers to explain it in a straight-forward effective manner.
>
> This is not a peculiarity with a K3.  N1MM has that problem because of
> the huge number of options, as does all the MicroHam stuff, which
> serve a very wide audience IF the users understand the options. I
> pretty much suffered brain damage learning MM logger.  Microham was
> better because I had W4TV. K3 was easier yet because of the reflector.
>   Flexibility generates confused digital options newbies all over the
> place in all kinds of pursuits.   The universal curse of the age of
> digital options freedom.
>
> These days RTFM is really the only way out.  Unless someone who has
> the time, inclination, and the sharp knowledge of all the options,
> sets up a utility which sets a spectrum of options based upon older
> rigs.
>
> Since the version D DSP board, this actually seems possible.  Once you
> learn all the diddles, the K3 is marvelous.  I have its RX sounding
> like my 75A3, IF I use a good speaker.  ALL my computer speakers turn
> out to be crap beside my old-time Acoustic Research bookshelf speaker.
>   If I run my 75A3 to the computer speakers, the 75A3 sounds like crap.
>   Of course the sonorous old AR 8 ohm needs a 10 watt audio stage or an
> amp to drive it because it is so brutally inefficient.
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