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Re: K2: Debugging low transmit power

Posted by omehegan on Oct 06, 2010; 5:42am
URL: http://elecraft.85.s1.nabble.com/K2-Debugging-low-transmit-power-tp5601987p5605856.html

Thanks again for the suggestions Don. Tonight I started doing some  
signal tracing, and my RF probe seems to work fine with my DMM.  
However, I ran up against a different obstacle: I don't have a signal  
generator handy, and the LPF/BPF/T-R Switch tests seem to require one.  
I can get access to one but it won't be until tomorrow at least.

I did find one other data point for my symptoms. On SOME bands, I get  
the expected power out when I put the K2 into tune mode. Here are the  
results of my tests:

80m sometimes shows "high cur" the first time I test, then I quickly  
turn off tune, then try again and I see a normal reading
40m always too low
30m same as 80m
20m OK
17m OK
15m OK
12m too low
10m too low

I checked continuity on all my toroids, from "pad to pad" instead of  
lead to lead, as far as I was able. Everything seems to check out  
there. I'm not sure I can do anything else without a signal generator,  
but I'm open to suggestions.

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And it must follow, as the night the day,
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On Oct 5, 2010, at 7:01 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Owen,
>
> I am going to assume that you were successful with the Alignmant and  
> Test Part II and were able to receive 40 meter signals.  If not, you  
> need to backtrack a bit and get receive working first.
>
> The easiest way to troubleshoot a "lack of power output" problem is  
> to do Transmit Signal Tracing.  You can use an RF Probe or an  
> oscilloscope with a 10X probe.
>
> Turn the manual to the Appendix E section titled Transmit Signal  
> Tracing and begin there.  If using an RF Probe, the correct expected  
> values are listed, but if using an oscilloscope, multiply those  
> values by 2.8 and observe the peak to peak voltage of the RF waveform.
>
> An important note - the K2 will normally increase drive in an  
> attempt to increase the power output if the voltage out of the RF  
> detector is too small.  What that means is that all RF voltages  
> prior to the failing stage the RF voltages will be higher than the  
> listed expected values.  You will be investigating the transmit  
> chain in the order listed (do not skip around), searching for the  
> *first* stage where the output is lower than expected - that is the  
> failing stage which then needs to be analyzed to determine why it is  
> not operating properly.  Measurements beyond this first failure  
> point are not relevant to that first problem to be found.
> All RF Voltage measurements in the list can be done from the top of  
> the RF Board.  Do not transmit with the heat sink removed.  If the  
> PA transistors do get a bit of drive, will produce output and if the  
> heat sink is not in place, they will quickly overheat and fry  
> themselves.
>
> Normal failures are soldering problems, toroid leads or incorrectly  
> placed components.  Active device failures are way down of the list  
> of failure suspects unless something has caused it to be abused.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 10/5/2010 2:38 AM, Owen B. Mehegan wrote:
>> Hello -
>>
>> Two nights ago I completed the assembly of my K2's RF board, and  
>> after
>> a visual inspection verification of resistance checks, I assembled  
>> the
>> radio per the instructions and began the third phase of alignment and
>> test. I've discovered a problem right off the bat, though. In the 40
>> meter transmitter alignment section, when I put the K2 into tune mode
>> at 2 watts power, I'm only reading .3-.4 watts on the onboard
>> wattmeter (it alternates between the two). This is with a connection
>> to a 100W dummy load. Varying L1 and L2 has no effect on the power
>> reading.
>>
>> I discovered one mistake: I misread the instructions for winding T4's
>> 5-6 and 7-8 windings. I wound these bare wires through BOTH holes in
>> the core, in a U shape, thus connecting 6-7 and 5-8 (and very  
>> possibly
>> all 4 together with a short in the middle - this is what comes of
>> staying up too late working on a project!). I corrected this mistake
>> tonight, but I'm seeing no change on the measured power. Is it
>> possible that this mistake fried something? I never saw any smoke or
>> smelled burned silicon, and the thermal pads on Q7 and Q8 look  
>> normal.
>>
>> I have also noticed that if I vary the power adjustment on the front
>> panel while in tune mode, I see no change on the wattmeter. That  
>> seems
>> significant.
>>
>> These are the other checks I've done so far, per the troubleshooting
>> instructions:
>>
>

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