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Re: KPA-500 "Output for Input" schedule?

Posted by Gary Gregory on May 11, 2011; 10:40pm
URL: http://elecraft.85.s1.nabble.com/KPA-500-Output-for-Input-schedule-tp6352735p6353888.html

Joe,

325W @ 15W drive
410W @ 20W drive
490W @ 25W drive
510W @ 26W drive
530W @ 27W drive
560W @ 28W drive
580W @ 29W drive
600W @ 30W drive
630W @ 31W drive
650W @ 32W drive
675W @ 35W drive
690W @ 37W drive
700W @ 40W drive

Is this still about right for your calculations.....

Gary

On 12 May 2011 08:18, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Adding gain calculation ...
>
>
>  > 2W   =  30W   11.8 dB
>  > 2.5W =  40W   12.0 dB
>  > 3w   =  50w   12.2 dB
>  > 3.5w =  60w   12.3 dB
>  > 4w   =  70w   12.4 dB
>  > 4.5w =  75w   12.2 dB
>  > 5w   =  80w   12.0 dB
>  > 5.5w =  90w   12.1 dB
>  > 6w   = 100w   12.2 dB
>  > 6.5w = 110w   12.3 dB
>  > 7w   = 120w   12.3 dB
>  > 7.5w = 130w   12.4 dB
>  > 8w   = 150w   12.7 dB
>  > 8.5w = 160w   12.7 dB
>  > 9w   = 170w   12.8 dB
>  > 9.5w = 180w   12.8 dB
>  > 10w  = 190w   12.8 dB
>  > 11w  = 200w   12.6 dB
>  > 12w  = 225w   12.7 dB
>
> The numbers look about right including the decreased gain at low level
> (as expected).  Using 12.6/12.7 dB would indicate 33W drive for 600W
> out.  40W drive for 600W output would indicate ~1 dB of compression.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
> On 5/11/2011 5:28 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
> > Stan,
> >
> > Allow some variation to antenna variations also.
> >
> > This on 15M, swr is 1.0:1
> >
> > 2W = 30W out
> > 2.5W = 40W
> > 3w = 50w
> > 3.5w = 60w
> > 4w = 70w
> > 4.5w = 75w out
> > 5w = 80w
> > 5.5w  = 90w
> > 6w = 100w
> > 6.5w = 110w
> > 7w = 120w
> > 7.5w = 130w
> > 8w = 150w
> > 8.5w = 160w
> > 9w = 170w
> > 9.5w = 180w
> > 10w = 190w
> > 11w = 200w
> > 12w = 225w
> >
> > NOTE to ALL: This was not done with lab equipment or even a dummy load.
> This
> > was measured  using a K3 and a tri-band yagi and a cw tone.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On 12 May 2011 07:13, Al Lorona<[hidden email]>  wrote:
> >
> >> It's very easy to measure the 1-tone gain compression characteristics of
> an
> >> amplifier. The desired result is a graph of Pout vs. Pin, with Pin on
> the
> >> horizontal axis and Pout on the vertical.
> >>
> >> So what one needs to do is set Pin to the amp, and measure Pout into a
> >> dummy
> >> load. If you do this for several values of Pin, you'll be able to plot
> all
> >> of
> >> those measured points on the graph. It will look like a pretty straight
> >> line
> >> toward the lower Pin values, then it will flatten out (become more
> >> horizontal)
> >> as Pin (and Pout) get higher.
> >>
> >> The slope of the line is the gain of the amplifier.
> >>
> >> Very often the Pin values are 1 dB apart. One dB is about a 25% increase
> in
> >> power. Meaning that if you are measuring Pin in Watts, then you can set
> Pin
> >> to
> >> roughly the following values:
> >>
> >> 1, 1.5, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 10, 13 Watts, etc.,
> >>
> >> and measure the Pout at each value. The values should be converted to
> dBm
> >> before
> >> plotting. That's all there is to it.
> >>
> >> This is all done in CW mode. If you want to go further, you can go into
> SSB
> >> mode
> >> and apply two tones to the amp (which a K3 has the ability to do) and
> then
> >> look
> >> at the output of both the K3 and the KPA500 with a spectrum analyzer...
> but
> >> I'll
> >> leave that explanation for another day... or it can be found on the web.
> >>
> >> Al W6LX
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