Re: Fw: CQ WW DX Contest CW 2011 - Unofficial claimed scores
Posted by
David Gilbert on
Dec 04, 2011; 6:08pm
URL: http://elecraft.85.s1.nabble.com/Fw-CQ-WW-DX-Contest-CW-2011-Unofficial-claimed-scores-tp7060148p7060705.html
Condescending remarks are not helpful.
Dave AB7E
On 12/4/2011 9:00 AM, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
> Did you try the DSP upgrade? Have you pulled the front panel off and
> cleaned the contacts with Deoxit?
>
> Does age start to factor in to this observation? I know everything in
> the past is always better.....Ie we tend to forget how things really
> were. At 47 I have some loss of hearing at certain ranges due to
> issues with my ears as a child. My FT101EE did not sound better than my K3.
>
> On 12/4/11 8:53 AM, Merv Schweigert wrote:
>> Finally someone who hears what I hear, Im sure this thread will bring
>> out the
>> raving crowd of "mine is just fine".
>> I have the exact same problem in pile ups, and would sure like to see the
>> parameters changed to be able to adjust more to move the threshold higher.
>> There was some attempt to "fix" this some time back but it stopped short of
>> actually working, the agc settings came about but they did not go far
>> enough
>> in the adjustment ranges.
>> Also the audio has been a problem for me for the 3 years I have owned
>> the K3,
>> it is rough or raspy sounding especially in a pile up situation,
>> whether its the
>> audio itself or something generated in the radio that comes out sounding
>> like
>> rough audio I do not know. But compared to my old analog radio it sounds
>> harsh. It is very tiring after a contest. I know all the comments on how
>> nice every ones sounds, mine does not, and apparently I am not alone.
>> And no I am not bashing the K3, its my radio of choice, I have tried
>> every setting
>> and every "trick" suggested in the past 3 years and cannot get a
>> satisfactory
>> outcome on audio or AGC pileup management.
>> Thanks Fred I thought I was the only one. 73 Merv K9FD/KH6
>>> Neat site but unfortunately none of the audio clips demonstrate the
>>> pileups heard at dx locations like C6AAW. Once again this year the K3s
>>> AGC failed to perform adequately for us. I found many times I just had
>>> to turn AGC off. Signals were much cleaner and more distinguishable.
>>> I think there are two things going on. First, I think the threshold
>>> cannot be set high enough. The maximum is around S3 according to my
>>> measurements. Thus, when you have a pileup of signals all in the S3, S4,
>>> S5 region, which is common, AGC is compressing them together. When AGC
>>> is off, these signals are now in a linear region of the transfer curve
>>> and can be distinguished more easily. Second, and this is hard for me to
>>> judge since it has been a while since I've used an analog audio
>>> processing radio like the TS850, the audio doesn't sound "good". I
>>> dunno. I think there is an inherent harshness(?) to digitally produced
>>> audio as compared to analog audio. I'm not an audio guy, for sure.
>>>
>>> Sadly, I suspect top contesters are beginning to look for another radio
>>> to replace the K3 :-(
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Fred
>>> KE7X/C6AKX/C6AAW
>>>
>>>
>>>
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