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Re: Frequency reference for the K3 directly off a GPS

Posted by Jim Brown-10 on Aug 13, 2015; 4:10pm
URL: http://elecraft.85.s1.nabble.com/Frequency-reference-for-the-K3-directly-off-a-GPS-tp7606275p7606278.html

Take a look at what KA6SQG did to sync both audio and RF from GPS for
this five-site 440 MHz simulcast repeater system.

http://www.wb6ece.org/technical-info.html    Play the youtube video
while flipping through the slides. You'll need headphones to get
acceptable audio from the youtube.

I live in the area covered by this system, and can attest that it works
quite well.

73, Jim K9YC

On Thu,8/13/2015 6:59 AM, Matt Zilmer wrote:

> Hi Sverre,
>
> This type of 10 MHz output has short term stability problems and isn't
> suitable for direct drive of a K3 (imho).  It *could* be used, if
> integrated over a long time constant (thinking many seconds) to drive
> a D.O., but that would take additional circuitry.  It might be quite a
> project.
>
> You're probably better off with A GPSDO or a Rubidium source.  Even a
> plain OCXO would work if you can keep it calibrated.
>
> 73,
> matt
> W6NIA
>
> On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 06:36:31 -0700 (MST), you wrote:
>
>> Some recent GPS modules (ublox Neo 7) have a programmable output that in
>> addition to the 1 pps output can be programmed even to output 10 MHz. This
>> output has a lot of jitter as it seems to be derived from a 48 MHz clock
>> which is divided down in such a way as to generate a mix of short and long
>> cycles but so that the average frequency is maintained accurately at 10 MHz.
>>
>> A description can be found here
>> https://sites.google.com/site/g4zfqradio/u-blox_neo-6-7 and performance is
>> partly described here:
>> https://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/2014-August/086257.html
>>
>> My question is regarding the K3 external reference input. Is this source
>> good enough to drive the K3 reference? Can the K3 clean up the jitter
>> internally, or does the K3 require a source with much less phase noise?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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