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Re: Grounding question on remote tuner

Posted by k6dgw on Apr 05, 2017; 9:45pm
URL: http://elecraft.85.s1.nabble.com/Grounding-question-on-remote-tuner-tp7629022p7629031.html

I believe Don is essentially correct regarding bonding all earth
terminals directly to the service entrance ground connection.  This,
however, can be difficult and very costly in the case of an earth
terminal far from the service entrance.  I believe that the NEC has
provisions for such cases [e.g. a barn or other outbuilding located some
distance from the service entrance].

200 ft sticks in my mind, but don't bet your paycheck on that.
Unfortunately, my copy of the NEC is located in an unknown box out of
many in the garage after our move.  It is at least a decade old.  It
will likely remain there.

Possibly someone who actually knows can enlighten the rest of us. It
*IS* a real issue.

73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn

On 4/5/2017 2:05 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Randy,
>
> The RF does not need a ground other than the obvious connection to
> your radial connection point.
>
> I would dispense with the "unun" and connect the antenna wire and
> radial connection point directly to your tuner.  A few feet of wire
> from your tuner to those points will not make a big difference since
> your antenna is not resonant.
>
> The only reason I can think of to connect your tuner to "station
> ground" is for lightning protection.  While that is a consideration
> not to be taken lightly, be aware that *all* ground rods must be
> connected by heavy wire to the utility entrance ground rod.  That
> heavy wire is #6 bare copper but #4 is preferred.  That connection is
> for AC mains safety, not for lightning protection or anything having
> to do with RF.
>
> The concept for lightning protection is to spread as much of the
> charge as possible over as large an area of the earth as is possible.  
> Your radial system will help do that *if* the wires are large enough
> to withstand the surge without evaporating the copper.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 4/5/2017 2:19 PM, Randy Cook wrote:
>> Weather damage repair time. I am rewiring my ~84 foot inverted L
>> antenna system, Up a SpiderPole about 31 feet, out about 53
>> additional feet. Still tuning length.
>> I have mounted a remote MFJ tuner on a post about 3 feet from the
>> antenna base. Antenna wire goes down the pole, connects to 4:1 Unun
>> input lug, then goes via coax to tuner. Out of the tuner to a long
>> coax run to my shack. Choke at the rig end of the coax run.
>> Radials mount on ground connection lug on the Unun.
>> I was a bit confused with the tuner wiring. The manual says to
>> connect ground lug to the ‘system ground’, I assume that means the
>> radial collection point. But, isn’t the tuner already connected to
>> the ‘system ground’ via the coax shield? Is it necessary to run
>> another wire from the tuner ground to the radial connection ground?
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