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Re: K2 Alignment and Test, Part II issues

Posted by Don Wilhelm on Sep 27, 2018; 6:34pm
URL: http://elecraft.85.s1.nabble.com/K2-Alignment-and-Test-Part-II-issues-tp7645364p7645373.html

Don,

You apparently have a problem with the thermistor board - or the 8 volts
to it.
A "voltage rail" are those PC traces that carry voltage to various parts
of the circuit.
In the K2, there is one for 12 volts, another for 8 volts and another
for 5 volts.
On the schematic they are labeled "12V", "8A" and "5V" respectively.
The main 8 volt and 5 volt regulators are on the Control Board. You will
find an "5B" voltage rail at the output of U8 on the RF Board and the
"8B" voltage is sourced at the output side of RFC16.
If you do not have 8 volts at the thermistor board pin 8, then
investigate the stripping and tinning of the RFC16 leads.
Once you have 8 volts at the thermistor board (RP3 position) pin 8, then
recheck the voltage at U6 pin 5 - it should be quite close to 4 volts.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/27/2018 1:43 PM, Don Schroder wrote:

>
> Don,
>
> Board U6 pin 5
>
> Thank you for the suggestions! The DC voltage at RF Board U6 pin 5 is
> 0 volts. In fact, all pins of U6, except pin 6, are 0 volts. Pin 6 is
> less than 1 volt.
>
> I saw a bridge between C96 and RFC10, the schematic shows these two
> components connecting together, so that should be ok. I’m still
> looking for bridges.
>
> Could you elaborate a little on the ^voltage rail*? How do I identify
> the rail on a schematic, or can I? Which component is the 8 volt
> regulator? I feel I should know the answers to these questions, I must
> be having a senior moment. Your help and advice is much appreciarted!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Don, KE0PVQ
>
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> *Subject: *Re: [Elecraft] K2 Alignment and Test, Part II issues
>
> Don,
>
> First check the DC voltage at RF Board U6 pin 5 - it should be 4 volts
>
> (or 1/2 the 8 volt regulator output voltage).  If it is not correct, you
>
> have a problem with the thermistor board - most likely a solder bridge.
>
> You should have 8 volts at the thermistor board pin 8.  If that is not
>
> correct, look carefully for solder bridges.  That 8 volts comes directly
>
> from the 8 volt regulator voltage rail.
>
> It does sound like you have a problem with the PLL Reference Oscillator,
>
> but your voltage measurements on the thermistor board pins should be
>
> investigated first before drawing any other conclusions.
>
> Make sure you have good results with the PLL range tests just after that.
>
> The exact frequency of the 4 MHz Oscillator is not critical at this
>
> point - for now it only substantiates that the oscillator is working. If
>
> you put a probe on C22, it will pull the frequency.  If your frequency
>
> counter is sufficiently accurate, wait until you have a good frequency
>
> at TP1, and then measure the frequency with both the counter and the
>
> internal counter probe using CAL FCTR. Adjust C22 so CAL FCTR frequency
>
> is the same as your external counter.
>
> I do not know the accuracy of your counter, but mine is accurate to 10
>
> exp-9 and I can set C22 with it for good K2 Dial Calibration.  There are
>
> other methods for setting C22 that do not depend on the accuracy of your
>
> frequency counter.  When you can receive WWV at 10 or better 15 MHz,
>
> look at my website www.w3fpr.com article on K2 Dial Calibration to
>
> accurately set C22 and achieve good K2 dial calibration.
>
> 73,
>
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 9/26/2018 8:14 PM, Don Schroder wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
>
> >
>
> > Got to the subject location on my K2 kit #7818, and am having some
> difficulties with the tests. My frequency counter, when touched to the
> left side of trimmer capacitor C22, reads 3999.98 on the LCD. This
> makes me believe there is no problem with the frequency counter probe
> that I assembled.
>
> >
>
> > On page 63, under *4 MHz Oscillator Calibration,  I selected CAL
> FCTR, and the LCD displays a rapidly changing frequency between 185.~
> to 188.~. It does not show a frequency of 12090 kHz  suggested by the
> manual.  This tells me I have a problem with the PLL Reference
> Oscillator (since the frequency counter probe appeared to be ok). I
> then decided to check voltages, and discovered that I am missing some
> +5v signals from U4 and U5.
>
> >
>
> > Any suggestions on where to look next? I’d like to trace the 5v
> signals, but I don’t see how to do that using the schematics. I did
> measure voltages on the 8 pins of the Thermistor Board, they were all
> 0 volts! That didn’t seem right, either.
>
> >
>
> > Appreciate any suggestions! Thanks!
>
> > Don, KE0PVQ
>
> >
>
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