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Re: Center-fed antennas

Posted by Rick WA6NHC-2 on Oct 10, 2019; 11:16pm
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I have over 200 countries on a similar antenna, though I had to use
another tuner than the KAT500, for 160M. Average height was about 35'.

Just keep the coax short, like under 10' and as much center fed wire as
you can put in the air, it'll play.  It won't rock your world, it'll
make you work for some of the DX, but that teaches patience and
operating technique, still win-win.

Rick nhc


On 10/10/2019 1:56 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote:

> I'm having great success with a horizontal center-fed "dipole" that has been sized (360 feet long) to be an Extended Double Zepp (4.7 dbi gain) and cut for the low end of 80 meters.  I feed it with 600 ohm "True" Ladder Line from a Balun Designs Hybrid Balun (1:1 Current and 4:1 Voltage all in one case).  A short run of coax from the balun to my KAT500, and I am in business at any frequency on 160 - 6 meters.
>
> It's oriented to be an effective NVIS radiator in a N-S pattern on 80m, by design, and to have major lobes on the other bands in other directions - also by design.  For me, it's the most efficient and effective way to utilize our lot space (400 feet clear) and still be "under the radar" in our HOA.
>
> Birds seem to like it, and I find that it seems to be especially attractive to Hummingbirds, my XYL's favorites.  A win-win, in my book.
>
> 73
> Lyn, WØLEN
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Al Lorona
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 3:25 PM
> To: [hidden email]; David Gilbert
> Subject: [Elecraft] Center-fed antennas
>
> My experience with single vertical or sloping wires is exactly the same as AB7E's. I have, over almost twice as many Field Days as Dave, come to a similar conclusion, with the slight difference being my preference for an "all-band dipole" fed with balanced line. This obviates the balun and reduces feedline loss to negligible, so obviously I am maximizing efficiency at the expense of any other possible advantage. (I can usually hear much better than I can be heard... so thus far this has been a valid decision.)
>
> To sum up what I and what I think Dave are saying, you can't beat a horizontal, center-fed wire up as high as you can get it. Its simplicity, the flexibility it gives you to QSY (with a good tuner), and its high efficiency are almost unbeatable.
>
> As a side note, the center-fed horizontal wire I have used here at home is totally non-resonant. I don't even know how long it is. Once you give up the obsession with resonant antenna length, you gain a huge freedom of choice.
>
> In the bottom of the sunspot cycle, these advantages are somewhat reduced because an op, especially on Field Day, might opt to forget about any band higher than 20 meters -- and these days even 20 is questionable. This means you can probably make do with coaxial cable and a balun for operation on 2 or 3 bands but the general idea still holds.
>
> Al  W6LX
>
>
>> Yes, a center fed normal dipole with the middle (high current portion)
>> higher off the ground (say 50 feet for 40m) and a common mode choke at
>> the feedpoint would almost assuredly perform better.
>>
>> 73,
>> Dave   AB7E
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