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Re: K4 S-meter characteristics

Posted by DL4ZBG on Apr 25, 2020; 7:22am
URL: http://elecraft.85.s1.nabble.com/K4-S-meter-characteristics-tp7660056p7660144.html

Well said, Brian. A calibrated S-meter may be helpfull for side-to-side on-air equipment comparisons (e.g. antennas) and not for contest business. From time to time you will even find a few people fighting the 20dB HF to VHF/UHF offset....

Real- world VHF transverters do need slightly more than 20dB rx coversion gain (abt 25dB), so an "transverter s- meter  correction" would be highly appreciated for the K4.

My ANAN SDRs do have it, my K3 not....

73
Volker

DL4ZBG/DK0B


-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] K4 S-meter characteristics
Datum: 2020-04-25T01:45:37+0200
Von: "Brian Denley" <[hidden email]>
An: "Charlie T" <[hidden email]>

The International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) Region 1 agreed on a technical recommendation for S Meter calibration for HF and VHF/UHF transceivers in 1981.

Why go back to 1947?

Brian Denley
KB1VBF
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> On Apr 24, 2020, at 6:30 PM, Charlie T <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> S-meters should be calibrated with 9 signal levels:  
>
> *Faint - Signal barely perceptible
> *Very weak signals
> *Weak signals
> *Fair signals
> *Fairly good signals
> *Good signals
> *Moderately strong signals
> *Strong signals
> *Extremely strong signals
>
> (Reprinted from the 1947 ARRL Handbook, page 466 "RST System of Signal Reports")
>
> 73, Charlie k3ICH
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of John Stengrevics
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 7:49 AM
> To: Morgan Bailey <[hidden email]>
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 S-meter characteristics
>
> Agree completely.  I find all S meters to be totally inaccurate and next to useless, including my K3S’.  
>
>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 7:43 AM, Morgan Bailey <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe it is just me but, Turn the radio on, adjust the audio/rf/agc
>> controls, hear the station, work him, move on. I dont need a fancy dbm
>> or an iconic number of engineering controls, to say what the dbm was
>> when I worked the guy. When you contest, who the hell cares, hear him,
>> work him, move on. In simple terms, I just want selectivity, and no
>> agc pumping and no front in desensing from a 40 db over nine station 2khz away.
>>
>> Im looking forward to a quiet front end, that keeps me from having to
>> listen to 48 hours of static that is generated by the stages with in
>> the radio. Love my K3S, great radio. Simple to operate once you learn
>> its controls and never has failed me.
>>
>> Looking forward to K4 delivery.
>>
>> Vy 73,
>> Morgan Bailey NJ8M
>>
>>
>
>
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