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Re: NOT the feedline

Posted by Jim Brown-10 on Jun 02, 2020; 2:41am
URL: http://elecraft.85.s1.nabble.com/Re-NOT-the-feedline-was-KPA-1500-faulting-on-6m-SWR-issues-tp7661502p7661551.html

On 6/1/2020 6:45 AM, Alan - G4GNX wrote:

> I have a similar issue with ferrite 'balun' heating, although mostly
> tested on 40 metres. I'm using an OSCFD (Windom) which has a main 4:1
> balun at the feed point, but also has a sleeve 'balun' consisting of 8
> ferrites wrapped in a plastic sleeve, about 3 feet from the feed point.
> If I run the K3S at 100W, via the KPA500 in standby, then through the
> KAT500 tuner, I see no problems.
>
> On increasing the power to 200W by using the KPA500 in Operate and about
> 10W drive from the K3S, during a SSB 'over' the temperature of the
> KPA500 rises and after a few minutes, the SWR readings on the KPA500 and
> KAT500 start to rise.

Alan,

What you describe basically a lousy common mode choke, applied to an
antenna that, because it is so badly unbalanced, has a LOT common mode
current. The primary function of such a choke is to prevent common mode
noise picked up on that feedline from coupling to the antenna, and from
there to the receiver. I don't know of a way to EFFECTIVELY choke such
an antenna. The application of ANY choke to such an antenna is an
unnatural act -- it does nothing useful.

I strongly suggest that you study the material on my website about how
common mode chokes work. These concepts have been part of the ARRL
Handbook and/or Antenna Book for nearly 10 years.

k9yc.com/publish.htm

The word "balun" is used to describe nearly a dozen very different
things. What COULD work is a two winding transformer wound on a low loss
ferrite toroid, like Fair-Rite #61 or #67 material. #61 will likely
handle 100W from 160M to 10M without overheating. #67, which has much
lower loss above about 17M, may be required at the 400W level, and would
certainly be used at 1 kW and above.

Making the windings bifilar provides a capacitive path for common mode
current, degrading its effectiveness. This is minimized by placing the
windings on opposite sides of the toroidal core.

73, Jim K9YC
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