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hi im haveing truble contacting elecraft. i had a email from lisa on the
27/06 08. she was haveing truble getting emails to me. they kept bouncing back i dont know why i have replyed to her request and sent other emails but not a word. if anyone is on here from elecraft hq please let lisa know i can confirm the invoice but she missed n-gen off the list please add to shipment and if possable let me know ups tracking no thanks for help chris g0wfh _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Chris wrote:
> hi im > haveing truble contacting elecraft. i had a email from lisa on the 27/06 > 08. > she was haveing truble getting emails to me. they kept bouncing back i > dont know This can be a problem when using a mass market ISP, like BTInternet. Such ISPs tend to use simplistic anti-spam filtering that assumes that anything that doesn't come from the mail server of another large ISP is probably spam. Although I can't say for certain that this applies to BTInternet, it can also be very difficult to get to speak to any support person that can do anything about this. If some mail is getting though, you don't have an absolute block, but the filtering is probably very sensitive to the exact content of the email. Ensuring that they send plain text only, will usually help, if they don't do that already. It would help to have the full technical details of the rejection, as it might be something other than a spam filter, and even if it is, they might indicate which filter rules are causing problems. qth.net is probably well enough known to BTInternet, that they mark it as a safe sender. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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>>hi im haveing truble contacting elecraft. i had a email from lisa >>on the 27/06 08. >>she was haveing truble getting emails to me. they kept bouncing >>back i dont know > >This can be a problem when using a mass market ISP, like BTInternet. >Such ISPs tend to use simplistic anti-spam filtering that assumes >that anything that doesn't come from the mail server of another >large ISP is probably spam. Although I can't say for certain that >this applies to BTInternet, it can also be very difficult to get to >speak to any support person that can do anything about this. > >If some mail is getting though, you don't have an absolute block, >but the filtering is probably very sensitive to the exact content of >the email. Ensuring that they send plain text only, will usually >help, if they don't do that already. > >It would help to have the full technical details of the rejection, >as it might be something other than a spam filter, and even if it >is, they might indicate which filter rules are causing problems. > >qth.net is probably well enough known to BTInternet, that they mark >it as a safe sender. The ultimate solution to an ISP that blocks your email is to change ISPs. I've generally found that ISPs really don't care if they block more than spam, regardless of what they tell you. Some don't even have white lists. Why reward an ignorant, incompetent, or arrogant ISP with your money? Change ISPs. Paul N4LCD _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> The ultimate solution to an ISP that blocks your email is to change ISPs.
> > I've generally found that ISPs really don't care if they block more > than spam, regardless of what they tell you. > > Some don't even have white lists. > > Why reward an ignorant, incompetent, or arrogant ISP with your > money? Change ISPs. > > Paul N4LCD Yahoo seems to be one of the worst. I've been trying to send a message to a group of cycling friends lately. The message bounces to everyone with a yahoo.com email address. Also sbcglobal.net which apparently uses Yahoo's spam filter. After trying a number of things I finally gave up. I believe Ken Kopp has also had a lot of trouble trying to email people with Yahoo email. A quick Google search shows a lot of other people are having the same problem. Al N1AL _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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No, Comcast is the worst, by far! (:-))
It's impossible for Rose to reach her case and cover customers that are Comcast subscribers. This is why you see an occasional "broadcast" message from her to a list member. From the customer's viewpoint it just looks like she's not responded to a request, and that's "bad for business". (;-) We have a number of Comcast subscribers on our personal mailing list and their messages always bounce. Additionally ... for some ... an alternate ISP simply doesn't exist and the only alternative is a dial-up ISP. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [hidden email] _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> No, Comcast is the worst, by far! (:-))
I wonder if those who are stuck with Comcast or simply persist in
> > It's impossible for Rose to reach her case and cover customers > that are Comcast subscribers. This is why you see an occasional > "broadcast" message from her to a list member. From the customer's > viewpoint it just looks like she's not responded to a request, and that's > "bad for business". (;-) > > We have a number of Comcast subscribers on our personal mailing > list and their messages always bounce. > > Additionally ... for some ... an alternate ISP simply doesn't exist > and the only alternative is a dial-up ISP. > > 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP > [hidden email] > using it could get *all* their mail by using a yahoo or gmail account. Is it just mail to the comcast email addresses they block or do they actually block traffic from other mail servers? Maybe someone in the know could tell us. I use gmail through my Verizon ISP and it does very nicely, with lots of features. Dave W5DHM _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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They can keep Comcast and use a free Google or Hotmail account.
Bob Serwy - N9RS Bob Serwy - N9RS -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ken Kopp Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:16 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] OT: ISP problems No, Comcast is the worst, by far! (:-)) It's impossible for Rose to reach her case and cover customers that are Comcast subscribers. This is why you see an occasional "broadcast" message from her to a list member. From the customer's viewpoint it just looks like she's not responded to a request, and that's "bad for business". (;-) We have a number of Comcast subscribers on our personal mailing list and their messages always bounce. Additionally ... for some ... an alternate ISP simply doesn't exist and the only alternative is a dial-up ISP. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [hidden email] _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Dave Martin-3
COMCAST blocks by sender email address (a poor practice), so if your email
address has been used by a spam merchant (as mine is) then you can't talk to COMCAST members. Better providers block by originating IP address as well as other more sophisticated means. Simon Brown, HB9DRV -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Martin" <[hidden email]> > Is it just mail to the comcast email addresses they block or do they > actually block traffic from other mail servers? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Dave Martin-3
Dave Martin wrote on 07/10/08 01:29 PM: >> No, Comcast is the worst, by far! (:-)) >> >> It's impossible for Rose to reach her case and cover customers >> that are Comcast subscribers. This is why you see an occasional >> "broadcast" message from her to a list member. From the customer's >> viewpoint it just looks like she's not responded to a request, and that's >> "bad for business". (;-) >> >> We have a number of Comcast subscribers on our personal mailing >> list and their messages always bounce. >> >> Additionally ... for some ... an alternate ISP simply doesn't exist >> and the only alternative is a dial-up ISP. >> >> 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP >> [hidden email] >> > I wonder if those who are stuck with Comcast or simply persist in > using it could get *all* their mail by using a yahoo or gmail account. > Is it just mail to the comcast email addresses they block or do they > actually block traffic from other mail servers? Maybe someone in the > know could tell us. I use gmail through my Verizon ISP and it does > very nicely, with lots of features. Certainly the web-based access to gmail or yahoo should work through any ISP. Some ISPs, like PacBell..er SBC..er at&t DSL block port 25 (SMTP) outbound connections to servers other than their own (or intercept them), to block spammers and worms, so if you want to use a local client like Thunderbird, you might have issues. For gmail, at least, that's simply worked-around by turning on SSL (a good idea anyway), which uses port 465 instead. ~Iain _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Simon (HB9DRV)
Comcast regularly block Entire countries and/or ISP netblocks
In addition to this they will not engage with mailadmins (such as myself) from other ISP's Your best bet if you are a comcast subscriber is to use gmail or similar On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 22:37 +0200, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote: > COMCAST blocks by sender email address (a poor practice), so if your email > address has been used by a spam merchant (as mine is) then you can't talk to > COMCAST members. Better providers block by originating IP address as well as > other more sophisticated means. > > Simon Brown, HB9DRV > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Dave Martin" <[hidden email]> > > > Is it just mail to the comcast email addresses they block or do they > > actually block traffic from other mail servers? -- Don‘t complain. Nobody will understand. Or care. And certainly don‘t try to fix the situation yourself. It‘s dangerous. Leave it to a highly untrained, unqualified, expendable professional. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On 7/10/2008 1:29 PM, Dave Martin wrote:
> I wonder if those who are stuck with Comcast or simply persist in > using it could get *all* their mail by using a yahoo or gmail > account. Is it just mail to the comcast email addresses they block or > do they actually block traffic from other mail servers? Maybe > someone in the know could tell us. I use gmail through my Verizon > ISP and it does very nicely, with lots of features. Comcast is my ISP but I get my mail through my mailserver (kanafi.org) on NetSol host servers. I get all my mail, but occasionally I get bounce messages from "the other end" not accepting traffic from NetSol--hosted servers. -- Phil Kane '53 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I don't know why anyone bothers with ISP mailboxes and local PC mail clients any more. I moved all my work and personal email addresses to Gmail accounts which I access via the web and it is just fantastic. I can read my mail from any computer, anywhere in the world, as well as my work PC, shack PC and Eee PC. I see virtually no spam, because Google's spam filters are near enough 100% perfect. And I have had no known problems sending or receiving mail all the time I have been using it.
I now use Google Docs for spreadsheeting and letter writing, we've moved the office accounts to a web-based system (WinWeb) and I have converted several of my websites to a content management system that I can edit online, again from any computer, anywhere. So no need for MS Office (or even Open Office), or FrontPage or Dreamweaver. I don't need a power hungry monster that can run the latest version of Windows. Give me a thin client that can run Firefox and I can do just about anything. The only place I still need a real PC is in the shack, because for logging, data modes and most other ham radio activities you still need real applications and I can't see that changing.
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
* G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html |
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On 7/10/2008 3:33 PM, Julian, G4ILO wrote:
> I don't know why anyone bothers with ISP mailboxes and local PC mail > clients any more. I moved all my work and personal email addresses to > Gmail accounts > > I now use Google Docs for spreadsheeting and letter writing, we've > moved the office accounts to a web-based system (WinWeb) and I have > converted several of my websites to a content management system that > I can edit online, again from any computer, anywhere. Congratulations. You have now succeeded in regressing back to the dumb-terminal-and mainframe days of the 1980s, albeit with a more sophisticated terminal. Our firm cannot do that because we insist on all stuff being stored on our in-house machines (or through a VPN) because of the sensitive nature of our clients' data - yes, we are our own ISP and mailserver. Couple to the fact that I am not comfortable with web/browser-based mail... personal preference - I've tried it. I still run my ham stuff - including the K2 applications - from a separate PC. Works for me. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In talking to my ISP about problems I was having getting emails to some
people, he mentioned that some block messages simply because there are more than a selected NUMBER of recipients and that triggers the spam filter. Try sending the messages with fewer recipients (or even only one recipient for test purposes). 73, Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Bloom" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Cc: <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] truble contacting elecraft > > The ultimate solution to an ISP that blocks your email is to change ISPs. > > > > I've generally found that ISPs really don't care if they block more > > than spam, regardless of what they tell you. > > > > Some don't even have white lists. > > > > Why reward an ignorant, incompetent, or arrogant ISP with your > > money? Change ISPs. > > > > Paul N4LCD > > Yahoo seems to be one of the worst. I've been trying to send a message > to a group of cycling friends lately. The message bounces to everyone > with a yahoo.com email address. Also sbcglobal.net which apparently > uses Yahoo's spam filter. After trying a number of things I finally > gave up. > > I believe Ken Kopp has also had a lot of trouble trying to email people > with Yahoo email. A quick Google search shows a lot of other people are > having the same problem. > > Al N1AL > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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If you're storing stuff on an in-house server then you are your own email
provider and if you are having problems with spam blocking software causing you problems then the fault lies close by... (you can at least reach the party to be blamed with a baseball bat). Most companies with more than 10 employees are their own mail provider. You're NOT your own ISP though unless you're selling bandwidth to others. You don't HAVE to access gmail accounts via a web interface they can be accessed by web IMAP or POP3. Both are SSL encrypted connections to these services so the data is not traversing the network in plain text. You can access a gmail account from Outlook, an internet browser, or ANYTHING that will talk to either a POP3 or IMAP server and can handle doing it over a secure connection. Personally I have my own domain hosted on gmail's servers. I end up with a very simple interface to create accounts as the administrator and can create up to 100 email accounts on my own domain that I personally own without paying a dime beyond the registration fee on a domain. Google provides mail, calendar access, and all their spam filtering (which is quality stuff) for free. Or if you want to run it yourself you can usually find a company that will run your mail through their filtering for $15 a month. Barracuda makes some very quality mail filtering products and then you can configure your server to only accept mail from your filtering provider. This helps clean things up too. Anyway I feel I've already wasted enough bandwidth of Elecraft's but just wanted to dispel some of the myths about Gmail being nothing but a web based email service. It's a full email service with secure connectivity and free hosting services if needed/wanted. ~Brett (KC7OTG) -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Phil Kane Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:56 PM To: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: ISP problems On 7/10/2008 3:33 PM, Julian, G4ILO wrote: > I don't know why anyone bothers with ISP mailboxes and local PC mail > clients any more. I moved all my work and personal email addresses to > Gmail accounts > > I now use Google Docs for spreadsheeting and letter writing, we've > moved the office accounts to a web-based system (WinWeb) and I have > converted several of my websites to a content management system that > I can edit online, again from any computer, anywhere. Congratulations. You have now succeeded in regressing back to the dumb-terminal-and mainframe days of the 1980s, albeit with a more sophisticated terminal. Our firm cannot do that because we insist on all stuff being stored on our in-house machines (or through a VPN) because of the sensitive nature of our clients' data - yes, we are our own ISP and mailserver. Couple to the fact that I am not comfortable with web/browser-based mail... personal preference - I've tried it. I still run my ham stuff - including the K2 applications - from a separate PC. Works for me. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Perhaps you could receive mail sent to your arrl.net account and redirected
to your ISP account. --Steve, NN0B ===================================================================== From: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] tr0uble contacting elecraft Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:13:01 -0400 To: [hidden email] Message: 13 >>hi im haveing truble contacting elecraft. i had a email from lisa >>on the 27/06 08. >>she was haveing truble getting emails to me. they kept bouncing >>back i dont know > >This can be a problem when using a mass market ISP, like BTInternet. >Such ISPs tend to use simplistic anti-spam filtering that assumes >that anything that doesn't come from the mail server of another >large ISP is probably spam. Although I can't say for certain that >this applies to BTInternet, it can also be very difficult to get to >speak to any support person that can do anything about this. > >If some mail is getting though, you don't have an absolute block, >but the filtering is probably very sensitive to the exact content of >the email. Ensuring that they send plain text only, will usually >help, if they don't do that already. > >It would help to have the full technical details of the rejection, >as it might be something other than a spam filter, and even if it >is, they might indicate which filter rules are causing problems. > >qth.net is probably well enough known to BTInternet, that they mark >it as a safe sender. The ultimate solution to an ISP that blocks your email is to change ISPs. I've generally found that ISPs really don't care if they block more than spam, regardless of what they tell you. Some don't even have white lists. Why reward an ignorant, incompetent, or arrogant ISP with your money? Change ISPs. Paul N4LCD _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Ken Kopp-3
>I wonder if those who are stuck with Comcast or simply persist in
using it could get *all* their mail by using a yahoo or gmail account. Is it just mail to the comcast email addresses they block or do they actually block traffic from other mail servers? Maybe someone in the know could tell us. I use gmail through my Verizon ISP and it does very nicely, with lots of features. Dave W5DHM Maybe the problem is Yahoo and not comcast. It takes two to communicate and the breakage could be on the Yahoo side in how it treats Comcast vs. gmail. I subscribe to about ten yahoo groups and I can not get the emails from the group. Actually I get maybe one in one-hundred posts. I use EarthLink as my ISP. Mike Scott - AE6WA Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA) K3-100 #508/ KX1 #1311 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Since this relates to the Elecraft reflector email, I guess it is
just barely on-toic, so: I have had comcast for years and get almost all my mail directly through my comcast email address and read it with Eudora. Only problem I ever had was when comcast stopped passing along mail from a HPSDR reflector to me, thinking it was spam. This was just for a short time, and it was fixed. Back then, if your ISP also hosted another guy who was sending out spam, comcast might block legitimate email from you to me because of the spammer. I hope they have refined their anti-spam techniques now, but don't know for sure. People are coming to use their email as if had all the qualities of the US postal service, and for any ISP to stop delivering email arbitrarily can cause big problems. Jerry W4UK At 10:45 AM 7/11/2008, Mike Scott wrote: > >I wonder if those who are stuck with Comcast or simply persist in >using it could get *all* their mail by using a yahoo or gmail account. > Is it just mail to the comcast email addresses they block or do they >actually block traffic from other mail servers? Maybe someone in the >know could tell us. I use gmail through my Verizon ISP and it does >very nicely, with lots of features. > >Dave W5DHM > > >Maybe the problem is Yahoo and not comcast. It takes two to communicate and >the breakage could be on the Yahoo side in how it treats Comcast vs. gmail. >I subscribe to about ten yahoo groups and I can not get the emails from the >group. Actually I get maybe one in one-hundred posts. >I use EarthLink as my ISP. > >Mike Scott - AE6WA >Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA) >K3-100 #508/ KX1 #1311 > > >_______________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: [hidden email] >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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>In talking to my ISP about problems I was having getting emails to some >people, he mentioned that some block messages simply because there are more >than a selected NUMBER of recipients and that triggers the spam filter. Try >sending the messages with fewer recipients (or even only one recipient for >test purposes). > >73, Jim Additionally, if you routinely email a customer list, it's best to use a service that works closely with ISPs, such as www.aweber.com We've been using them for years and have no problems getting emails through. Paul N4LCD _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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