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Greetings,
Up in Lake Tahoe (DM09) right now with my KX3 set to 5 watts on 14.052 running real slow CW if anyone wants to see if they can hear me. 7/2/13 2005z 73, Steve KS6PD ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi Greg,
I'm using a MP1 antenna with a few radials. Not ideal and I'm still not comfortable enough with the in-laws to ask them to start hanging wires in their trees hihi. Maybe I will later. What's the saying? Easier to ask for forgiveness than permission? As Murphy's law would have it, the baby woke up from his nap, so my radio time is done until later this evening. But thanks for taking a listen. 73, Steve KS6PD On Tuesday, July 2, 2013, Greg Miller wrote: > Hi Steve, > > I think I hear something in there but it's in the noise - I'm located near > Salt Lake City. What antenna are you using? > > -Greg NY6C > > > On Jul 2, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Stephen Selberg <[hidden email]<javascript:;>> > wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > Up in Lake Tahoe (DM09) right now with my KX3 set to 5 watts on 14.052 > > running real slow CW if anyone wants to see if they can hear me. 7/2/13 > > 2005z > > > > 73, > > > > Steve KS6PD > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] <javascript:;> > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi John,
Yeah I was sending CQ de ks6pd/7 for about 10 min before my email and 5 min after. Looked myself up on rbn and didn't see myself either. Maybe it means I need to stick with wire antennas. Thought I'd bring this one up and give it a test. Maybe later this evening will provide better results. Fig'd there prob isn't going to be too much activity in the middle of the day on a Tuesday. Steve KS6PD On Tuesday, July 2, 2013, John Oppenheimer wrote: > Hi Steve, Did you send CQ? There are no RBN spots for you. > > Hi Greg, That may have been me, I sent one CQ set on .052 to test for > RBN returns. Seven Hits. K2 10 watts, attic dipole. > > John KN5L > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Dave,
I had the power set to 5 watts and the kx3 meter showed 5 watts rf going out. I just think that this antenna isn't very efficient with the coil so maybe not much RF is actually going out. the practice mode you're speaking of, are you referring when you turn the power down to 0.0? Definitely was at 5 watts. I started off at 3 watts but decided to bump it up more to see how much time I could get out of these energizer lithium batteries. I'm going to throw a wire up this evening and do some A/b tests with the MP1 antenna. Wanted to see how well it might work if I find myself somewhere without any trees. I imagine next time I venture this way I'll have an Alexloop. Christian. The weird suffix is because I'm at the in-laws house in Nevada. My home QTH is in california. I was off the air until for some years up until April 2012. Are people still using /call area when out of their home call area? 73, Steve KS6PD On Tuesday, July 2, 2013, dave wrote: > If you sent CQ for 15 min and didn't get even one spot on RBN then I'd > have to wonder if you have the TX set to code practice mode. Nothing going > out to the antenna. Put a watt meter in line to be sure there is RF going > out . . . > > 73 de dave > ab9ca/4 > > > > On 7/2/13 3:44 PM, Stephen Selberg wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> Yeah I was sending CQ de ks6pd/7 for about 10 min before my email and 5 >> min >> after. Looked myself up on rbn and didn't see myself either. Maybe it >> means >> I need to stick with wire antennas. Thought I'd bring this one up and >> give >> it a test. Maybe later this evening will provide better results. Fig'd >> there prob isn't going to be too much activity in the middle of the day on >> a Tuesday. >> >> Steve KS6PD >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, July 2, 2013, John Oppenheimer wrote: >> >> Hi Steve, Did you send CQ? There are no RBN spots for you. >>> >>> Hi Greg, That may have been me, I sent one CQ set on .052 to test for >>> RBN returns. Seven Hits. K2 10 watts, attic dipole. >>> >>> John KN5L >>> >>> ______________________________**______________________________**__ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecraft<http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htm<http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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When I am in New Hampshire I sign AE6JV/1 on PSK although it isn't required.
Cheers - Bill, AE6JV/1 On 7/2/13 at 3:09 PM, [hidden email] (Stephen Selberg) wrote: > Christian. The weird suffix is because I'm at the in-laws house in Nevada. > My home QTH is in california. I was off the air until for some years up until > April 2012. Are people still using /call area when out of their home call > area? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | QRP: So you can talk about | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | the ones that got away. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, CA 95032 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I wish others who have moved out of their call sign area would sign witn a slash/area.
Many times I have spun the beam a 180 around to answer a call sign from that area only to find out he was in the area I was first aiming to. It takes a long time. Now, if I had a SteppIr........ Dick, n0ce ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron D'Eau Claire To: [hidden email] Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW Rather superfluous now that the call sign no longer identifies the FCC engineering district of the home station. That was one of the all-time bad moves by the FCC, IMHO, but it was popular among Hams who moved out of the district but couldn't bear to give up their call sign. 73, Ron AC7AC (ex, W6QAS, ex AC6Y, both random call assignments by the FCC. I put my call where my mouth was when I moved to Oregon and let the FCC computer assign me a random 7 area call and got AC7AC. It's longer but it's a neat call.) -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill Frantz Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 3:56 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW When I am in New Hampshire I sign AE6JV/1 on PSK although it isn't required. Cheers - Bill, AE6JV/1 On 7/2/13 at 3:09 PM, [hidden email] (Stephen Selberg) wrote: > Christian. The weird suffix is because I'm at the in-laws house in Nevada. > My home QTH is in california. I was off the air until for some years > up until April 2012. Are people still using /call area when out of > their home call area? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | QRP: So you can talk about | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | the ones that got away. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, CA 95032 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi all,
It is very simple to check the callsign on qrz.com and see the qth. I have a "3" callsign, and live in the 4th call area. All my contacts are uploaded to LOTW as N3XX. If I were to work you as N3XX/4 then upload as N3XX, you won't get a qsl match on LOTW if you upload my callsign as N3XX/4. I know I could add the callsign N3XX/4 to LOTW, but would you really want to do have to upload your contacts as callsign/number? If I were to upload as N3XX/4, and others upload only my callsign, N3XX, no qsl match. If I send /4 after my callsign, where am I? Am I at home, or actually operating portable from another qth. If I send /4, then qsl cards start arriving for N3XX/4. That's not my callsign. When I receive a card, I want it to have my callsign on it without the /4. What about trying to get through a pileup with a portable callsign, or which group to call with if the DX station is going by the numbers? I know it might be convenient for some, but to me, sending /# after the callsign causes a lot of problems for people with callsigns in a different call area than the number indicates. Sorry, but I will never send my callsign as N3XX/4. I don't see a good reason for it, and feel that it would only create more confusion. 73, Tim - N3XX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Fjeld" <[hidden email]> To: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW >I wish others who have moved out of their call sign area would sign witn a >slash/area. > > Many times I have spun the beam a 180 around to answer a call sign from > that area only to find out he was in the area I was first aiming to. It > takes a long time. Now, if I had a SteppIr........ > > Dick, n0ce > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ron D'Eau Claire > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 6:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW > > > Rather superfluous now that the call sign no longer identifies the FCC > engineering district of the home station. > > That was one of the all-time bad moves by the FCC, IMHO, but it was > popular > among Hams who moved out of the district but couldn't bear to give up > their > call sign. > > 73, Ron AC7AC (ex, W6QAS, ex AC6Y, both random call assignments by the > FCC. > I put my call where my mouth was when I moved to Oregon and let the FCC > computer assign me a random 7 area call and got AC7AC. It's longer but > it's > a neat call.) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill Frantz > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 3:56 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW > > When I am in New Hampshire I sign AE6JV/1 on PSK although it isn't > required. > > Cheers - Bill, AE6JV/1 > > On 7/2/13 at 3:09 PM, [hidden email] (Stephen Selberg) wrote: > > > Christian. The weird suffix is because I'm at the in-laws house in > Nevada. > > My home QTH is in california. I was off the air until for some years > > up until April 2012. Are people still using /call area when out of > > their home call area? > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | QRP: So you can talk about | Periwinkle > (408)356-8506 | the ones that got away. | 16345 Englewood Ave > www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, CA 95032 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Wow.
----- Original Message ----- From: N3XX To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW Hi all, It is very simple to check the callsign on qrz.com and see the qth. I have a "3" callsign, and live in the 4th call area. All my contacts are uploaded to LOTW as N3XX. If I were to work you as N3XX/4 then upload as N3XX, you won't get a qsl match on LOTW if you upload my callsign as N3XX/4. I know I could add the callsign N3XX/4 to LOTW, but would you really want to do have to upload your contacts as callsign/number? If I were to upload as N3XX/4, and others upload only my callsign, N3XX, no qsl match. If I send /4 after my callsign, where am I? Am I at home, or actually operating portable from another qth. If I send /4, then qsl cards start arriving for N3XX/4. That's not my callsign. When I receive a card, I want it to have my callsign on it without the /4. What about trying to get through a pileup with a portable callsign, or which group to call with if the DX station is going by the numbers? I know it might be convenient for some, but to me, sending /# after the callsign causes a lot of problems for people with callsigns in a different call area than the number indicates. Sorry, but I will never send my callsign as N3XX/4. I don't see a good reason for it, and feel that it would only create more confusion. 73, Tim - N3XX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Fjeld" <[hidden email]> To: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW >I wish others who have moved out of their call sign area would sign witn a >slash/area. > > Many times I have spun the beam a 180 around to answer a call sign from > that area only to find out he was in the area I was first aiming to. It > takes a long time. Now, if I had a SteppIr........ > > Dick, n0ce > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ron D'Eau Claire > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 6:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW > > > Rather superfluous now that the call sign no longer identifies the FCC > engineering district of the home station. > > That was one of the all-time bad moves by the FCC, IMHO, but it was > popular > among Hams who moved out of the district but couldn't bear to give up > their > call sign. > > 73, Ron AC7AC (ex, W6QAS, ex AC6Y, both random call assignments by the > FCC. > I put my call where my mouth was when I moved to Oregon and let the FCC > computer assign me a random 7 area call and got AC7AC. It's longer but > it's > a neat call.) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill Frantz > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 3:56 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW > > When I am in New Hampshire I sign AE6JV/1 on PSK although it isn't > required. > > Cheers - Bill, AE6JV/1 > > On 7/2/13 at 3:09 PM, [hidden email] (Stephen Selberg) wrote: > > > Christian. The weird suffix is because I'm at the in-laws house in > Nevada. > > My home QTH is in california. I was off the air until for some years > > up until April 2012. Are people still using /call area when out of > > their home call area? > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | QRP: So you can talk about | Periwinkle > (408)356-8506 | the ones that got away. | 16345 Englewood Ave > www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, CA 95032 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Well this thread took a turn I didn't expect it to. Thanks to all replied.
Just for clarification I'm sending /7 while traveling in the 7 area for the reason someone else mentioned, so they don't turn their beam towards San Francisco when I'm actually up in Lake Tahoe. I actually think that happened last night in the one QSO I didn't sign /7. Back to the original topic of the thread, I was able to make a few contacts on 20 last night using cw with the mp1 antenna and 5 watts. Nothing spectacular but it did work. I was unable to try it on 40 as my mighty fine junk analyzer decided to fail me last night. i think an elecraft version of the analyzer would be a hot item!! (hint hint) We had rain and thunder storms here last night so I wasn't about to stand out there and play with the coil on that thing. Next test will be to take the antenna to the beach and give it a try there. I'm thinking I'm just going to divert money from my KpA500 fund to buy an alexloop unless anyone has any serious objections to that antenna. In that case please reply directly. But thanks to all who replied. Thinking we should shut the thread down. 73, Steve KS6PD On Wednesday, July 3, 2013, Richard Fjeld wrote: > Wow. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: N3XX > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 9:21 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW > > > Hi all, > > It is very simple to check the callsign on qrz.com and see the qth. > > I have a "3" callsign, and live in the 4th call area. All my contacts > are > uploaded to LOTW as N3XX. If I were to work you as N3XX/4 then upload as > N3XX, you won't get a qsl match on LOTW if you upload my callsign as > N3XX/4. > I know I could add the callsign N3XX/4 to LOTW, but would you really > want to > do have to upload your contacts as callsign/number? If I were to upload > as > N3XX/4, and others upload only my callsign, N3XX, no qsl match. > > If I send /4 after my callsign, where am I? Am I at home, or actually > operating portable from another qth. > > If I send /4, then qsl cards start arriving for N3XX/4. That's not my > callsign. When I receive a card, I want it to have my callsign on it > without the /4. > > What about trying to get through a pileup with a portable callsign, or > which > group to call with if the DX station is going by the numbers? > > I know it might be convenient for some, but to me, sending /# after the > callsign causes a lot of problems for people with callsigns in a > different > call area than the number indicates. > > Sorry, but I will never send my callsign as N3XX/4. I don't see a good > reason for it, and feel that it would only create more confusion. > > 73, > Tim - N3XX > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Fjeld" <[hidden email]> > To: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 8:40 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW > > > >I wish others who have moved out of their call sign area would sign > witn a > >slash/area. > > > > Many times I have spun the beam a 180 around to answer a call sign from > > that area only to find out he was in the area I was first aiming to. > It > > takes a long time. Now, if I had a SteppIr........ > > > > Dick, n0ce > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ron D'Eau Claire > > To: [hidden email] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 6:35 PM > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW > > > > > > Rather superfluous now that the call sign no longer identifies the FCC > > engineering district of the home station. > > > > That was one of the all-time bad moves by the FCC, IMHO, but it was > > popular > > among Hams who moved out of the district but couldn't bear to give up > > their > > call sign. > > > > 73, Ron AC7AC (ex, W6QAS, ex AC6Y, both random call assignments by the > > FCC. > > I put my call where my mouth was when I moved to Oregon and let the > FCC > > computer assign me a random 7 area call and got AC7AC. It's longer > but > > it's > > a neat call.) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [hidden email] > > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill Frantz > > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 3:56 PM > > To: [hidden email] > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW > > > > When I am in New Hampshire I sign AE6JV/1 on PSK although it isn't > > required. > > > > Ch Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 7:21 AM, N3XX <[hidden email]> wrote:
It is very simple to check the callsign on qrz.com and see the qth. > Not necessarily. Unless the guy has edited his QTH on QRZ.com, what you get is the mailing address registered for the license. This may or may not be the actual QTH. 73, Hank, W6SX Mammoth Lakes, California Elevation 8083 feet in John Muir's Range of Light ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Wow isn't the word for it
73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters [hidden email] AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Richard Fjeld Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 10:32 AM To: N3XX; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW Wow. ----- Original Message ----- From: N3XX To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW Hi all, It is very simple to check the callsign on qrz.com and see the qth. I have a "3" callsign, and live in the 4th call area. All my contacts are uploaded to LOTW as N3XX. If I were to work you as N3XX/4 then upload as N3XX, you won't get a qsl match on LOTW if you upload my callsign as N3XX/4. I know I could add the callsign N3XX/4 to LOTW, but would you really want to do have to upload your contacts as callsign/number? If I were to upload as N3XX/4, and others upload only my callsign, N3XX, no qsl match. If I send /4 after my callsign, where am I? Am I at home, or actually operating portable from another qth. If I send /4, then qsl cards start arriving for N3XX/4. That's not my callsign. When I receive a card, I want it to have my callsign on it without the /4. What about trying to get through a pileup with a portable callsign, or which group to call with if the DX station is going by the numbers? I know it might be convenient for some, but to me, sending /# after the callsign causes a lot of problems for people with callsigns in a different call area than the number indicates. Sorry, but I will never send my callsign as N3XX/4. I don't see a good reason for it, and feel that it would only create more confusion. 73, Tim - N3XX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Fjeld" <[hidden email]> To: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW >I wish others who have moved out of their call sign area would sign witn a >slash/area. > > Many times I have spun the beam a 180 around to answer a call sign from > that area only to find out he was in the area I was first aiming to. It > takes a long time. Now, if I had a SteppIr........ > > Dick, n0ce > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ron D'Eau Claire > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 6:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW > > > Rather superfluous now that the call sign no longer identifies the FCC > engineering district of the home station. > > That was one of the all-time bad moves by the FCC, IMHO, but it was > popular > among Hams who moved out of the district but couldn't bear to give up > their > call sign. > > 73, Ron AC7AC (ex, W6QAS, ex AC6Y, both random call assignments by the > FCC. > I put my call where my mouth was when I moved to Oregon and let the FCC > computer assign me a random 7 area call and got AC7AC. It's longer but > it's > a neat call.) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill Frantz > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 3:56 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW > > When I am in New Hampshire I sign AE6JV/1 on PSK although it isn't > required. > > Cheers - Bill, AE6JV/1 > > On 7/2/13 at 3:09 PM, [hidden email] (Stephen Selberg) wrote: > > > Christian. The weird suffix is because I'm at the in-laws house in > Nevada. > > My home QTH is in california. I was off the air until for some years > > up until April 2012. Are people still using /call area when out of > > their home call area? > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | QRP: So you can talk about | Periwinkle > (408)356-8506 | the ones that got away. | 16345 Englewood Ave > www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, CA 95032 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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The comments in my previous post apparently did not come across well to
some. Please accept my apologies. It was not my intention to offend anyone. 73, Tim - N3XX ----- Original Message ----- From: "KQ8M" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW > Wow isn't the word for it > > > 73, > Tim Herrick, KQ8M > Charter Member North Coast Contesters > [hidden email] > > AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org > User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer > Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Richard Fjeld > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 10:32 AM > To: N3XX; [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW > > Wow. > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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OT but it is a shame that one cannot readily discern location from
the callsign, anymore. I kept my K8MWA the ten years I lived in CA, but upgraded when I passed the advanced exam in 1982 (at FCC in Anchorage). They assigned me AL7EB. This had me confused all the time with KL7EB, a popular ham in Anchorage, but at least I was not confused with as a rare "K8 dx station" by Alaskans. If I had only gotten EC (my initials) or ED my first name - oh well! When I upgraded to extra I went for a vanity call and tried for KL7MW as close to my old original license call...but I was not quick enough and it was assigned to someone else. So I went with KL7UW to reflect my interest in micro (u) wave (w). To get a single suffix call I would have had to chose a weird call like KL8M. There is already KL7M and KL6M in the area. Alaska has run out of KL7, AL7, NL7, WL7, KL0, KL1, and KL2 calls and now issuing KL3 to new licensees. Another reason to change my call was for CW: . _... is terrible when working eme; the "e" is lost in noise easily. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com [hidden email] "Kits made by KL7UW" ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Maybe I can sum this up; they have all been good comments.
Things have really changed over the years. When I passed my extra class license from the FCC, I was doing mostly CW at the time and I asked for a 1x2 call. They gave me a 'N' prefix. At first, a lot of people would not work me because they thought I wasn't legal. There was no QRZ.net. It took quite awhile for the word to get around. There were no computers yet. No logging programs. Everything was logged manually. Slash identifiers didn't matter. The only drawback to being required to get a new callsign when we moved to a new area was QSL cards, and learning the new call. The printers loved it. Dick, n0ce ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron D'Eau Claire To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW A significant number of Hams are pleased to leave our computers in the office and out of the shack where we spend time relaxing to avoid "busman's holiday" syndrome. Over the past century a /X has never caused confusion among Hams familiar with normal operating practices. In the USA, the reason for the solidus is to indicate something *added* to your call sign in accordance with the FCC rules. Your call sign is still your call sign as it always has been. Originally "/X" it merely indicated operation away from your home QTH. So your reasoning is sound. Using a /X when you are at your home QTH might confuse some. Even so, I understand those who do in order to provide a clearer indication of their general location. Nowadays when I hear a call sign I make no assumptions about where the station might be, but if there's a "/4" suffix I'm pretty sure it's somewhere in the Southeast USA. And, after all, portable operation is extremely common these days. Whether or not one is at the QTH listed on their license is no longer as significant as it once was. Years ago it was common practice for a phone station to give his QTH when calling CQ. Although I very rarely work SSB, I still hear that done by some stations. But we CW ops don't have an easy technique like that beyond the number in our call signs. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of N3XX Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 7:22 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW Hi all, It is very simple to check the callsign on qrz.com and see the qth. I have a "3" callsign, and live in the 4th call area. All my contacts are uploaded to LOTW as N3XX. If I were to work you as N3XX/4 then upload as N3XX, you won't get a qsl match on LOTW if you upload my callsign as N3XX/4. I know I could add the callsign N3XX/4 to LOTW, but would you really want to do have to upload your contacts as callsign/number? If I were to upload as N3XX/4, and others upload only my callsign, N3XX, no qsl match. If I send /4 after my callsign, where am I? Am I at home, or actually operating portable from another qth. If I send /4, then qsl cards start arriving for N3XX/4. That's not my callsign. When I receive a card, I want it to have my callsign on it without the /4. What about trying to get through a pileup with a portable callsign, or which group to call with if the DX station is going by the numbers? I know it might be convenient for some, but to me, sending /# after the callsign causes a lot of problems for people with callsigns in a different call area than the number indicates. Sorry, but I will never send my callsign as N3XX/4. I don't see a good reason for it, and feel that it would only create more confusion. 73, Tim - N3XX ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Tim et All,
I was first licensed as K3RIW, Gaines, Pa. It was a conditional license granted when I was in England. I have never operated from Gaines, Pa. When I got back to the states I operated as K3RIW/5, then /3 (was in Pa, but not Gaines),then /1, and finally /7. In 76 I upgraded to Extra and was given W7LKG. No more callsign changes for me. I always QSL'd using the portable designation and address. Now with LOTW, I get really peaved when anybody signs a portable prefix or suffix on their call, but QSL's with the basic call only. Not only do you lose my QSL in LOTW, but I lose yours. If you send me a /4, I QSL to the /4. You (should) QSL to the call you send over the air. Contesters (and I'm one) that use a contest call, then QSL with their personal call cause the same havoc. LOTW QSL's are lost. Same with eQSL if you use it. So, I have no problem with calls being used from other than the suggested call area, W6's from W7, etc., as long as you are operating from your "licensed" location. But, if you are portable or mobile, then state that fact, and then if you QSL, use the portable/mobile designation on the QSL, be it LOTW, eQSL, or card. I wonder how many QSL's are floating around in LOTW, not claimed, because of prefix/suffix's left out (or added). I copy the call as sent, and if there is a /x, then that is what goes in the log, and the log is what I send out QSL's against. Best time I ever had was working as KW6GB/1 (Wake Island) from Otis AFB in MA. I was also K3RIW/1 then (1967-69). Ok, sorry for the OT. My rant is over, and the flame suit is on. 73, Rick - W7LKG -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of N3XX Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 07:22 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter CW Hi all, It is very simple to check the callsign on qrz.com and see the qth. I have a "3" callsign, and live in the 4th call area. All my contacts are uploaded to LOTW as N3XX. If I were to work you as N3XX/4 then upload as N3XX, you won't get a qsl match on LOTW if you upload my callsign as N3XX/4. I know I could add the callsign N3XX/4 to LOTW, but would you really want to do have to upload your contacts as callsign/number? If I were to upload as N3XX/4, and others upload only my callsign, N3XX, no qsl match. If I send /4 after my callsign, where am I? Am I at home, or actually operating portable from another qth. If I send /4, then qsl cards start arriving for N3XX/4. That's not my callsign. When I receive a card, I want it to have my callsign on it without the /4. What about trying to get through a pileup with a portable callsign, or which group to call with if the DX station is going by the numbers? I know it might be convenient for some, but to me, sending /# after the callsign causes a lot of problems for people with callsigns in a different call area than the number indicates. Sorry, but I will never send my callsign as N3XX/4. I don't see a good reason for it, and feel that it would only create more confusion. 73, Tim - N3XX ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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