Any thoughts on the merits of one vs the other? The 5-pole filter is
cheaper, but they need to me matched for diversity receive, does the 8-pole Inrad filter not need to be matched? Is either one/both wide enough for 500Hz Olivia modes? Thanks... 73, Ross N4RP -- FCC Section 97.313(a) “At all times, an amateur station must use the minimum transmitter power necessary to carry out the desired communications.” ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Hi Ross,
I do not have either 500 Hz filter, but I would expect either one would work for the 500 Hz Olivia modes, although they might be a little tight and require careful centering of the signal. I recently got the 700 Hz 8-pole Inrad filter (from http://unpcbs.com) specifically for the wider digital modes. So far I'm happy with it. 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:27 AM, Ross Primrose wrote: > Any thoughts on the merits of one vs the other? The 5-pole filter is > cheaper, but they need to me matched for diversity receive, does the > 8-pole Inrad filter not need to be matched? Is either one/both wide > enough for 500Hz Olivia modes? > > Thanks... > > 73, Ross N4RP > > -- > FCC Section 97.313(a) “At all times, an amateur station must use the minimum transmitter power necessary to carry out the desired communications.” > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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> Is either one/both wide enough for 500Hz Olivia modes? I would question using either 500 Hz option for Olivia since the group delay will be significant in the shoulder areas and that can impact the "outer" tones considerably. > Any thoughts on the merits of one vs the other? My Elecraft 500 Hz, 5-pole filters averaged 480 Hz at the -6dB points while the INRAD filters tend to be about 10% (or more) wider than nominal, particularly as the nominal bandwidth decreases. On the other hand, the skirts are much sharper (better shape factor) with the 8 pole filters. > does the 8-pole Inrad filter not need to be matched? There is no "matching" for the INRAD filters but their center frequencies are not well controlled. In a recent sample of four 400Hz INRAD filters, I measured offsets at -15 Hz, +24 Hz, +45 Hz and + 55 Hz. The total difference of 60 Hz in 430 Hz (average) measured bandwidth is a bit concerning. I ended up with the -15 Hz/+24 Hz pair in one rig (no offset) and the +45 Hz/+55 Hz pair in the other rig with a slight offset to center the pair. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 1/25/2011 9:27 AM, Ross Primrose wrote: > Any thoughts on the merits of one vs the other? The 5-pole filter is > cheaper, but they need to me matched for diversity receive, does the > 8-pole Inrad filter not need to be matched? Is either one/both wide > enough for 500Hz Olivia modes? > > Thanks... > > 73, Ross N4RP > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Thanks to everyone who responded. I've gone with the Inrad 8-pole 500hz
filter for now. Expected arrival date for my K3 is next Weds. 73, Ross N4RP On 1/25/2011 9:27 AM, Ross Primrose wrote: > Any thoughts on the merits of one vs the other? The 5-pole filter is > cheaper, but they need to me matched for diversity receive, does the > 8-pole Inrad filter not need to be matched? Is either one/both wide > enough for 500Hz Olivia modes? > > Thanks... > > 73, Ross N4RP > -- FCC Section 97.313(a) “At all times, an amateur station must use the minimum transmitter power necessary to carry out the desired communications.” ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
My Inrad 500 Hz filter seems to be centered perfectly. The 250 Hz 8 pole Elecraft badged 8 pole filter seems slightly off center but probably not enough to bother diversity but since I don't have the second receiver, I can't say for sure. I've used the 500 Hz filter for 500 Hz Olivia without any apparent problem. Dunc, W5DC On 1/27/2011 1:30 PM, Ross Primrose wrote: > Thanks to everyone who responded. I've gone with the Inrad 8-pole 500hz > filter for now. Expected arrival date for my K3 is next Weds. > > 73, Ross N4RP > > On 1/25/2011 9:27 AM, Ross Primrose wrote: >> Any thoughts on the merits of one vs the other? The 5-pole filter is >> cheaper, but they need to me matched for diversity receive, does the >> 8-pole Inrad filter not need to be matched? Is either one/both wide >> enough for 500Hz Olivia modes? >> >> Thanks... >> >> 73, Ross N4RP >> > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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