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wayne burdick
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Just had a quick QSO with K7CW in CN87, and I’m hearing a strong beacon from Kansas. DXmaps.com has red all over :)

At times like this it pays to jump on 6 meters.

73,
Wayne
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Re: 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)

Ken Arck
I have 16 countries on 6 meters (and 82 on 2 meters!)

Ken


At 10:09 AM 6/22/2017, Wayne Burdick wrote:

>Just had a quick QSO with K7CW in CN87, and
>I’m hearing a strong beacon from Kansas.
>DXmaps.com has red all over :) At times like
>this it pays to jump on 6 meters. 73, Wayne N6KR
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Re: 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)

wayne burdick
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Wow! I need a better antenna....

Wayne


> On Jun 22, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Ken Arck <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> I have 16 countries on 6 meters (and 82 on 2 meters!)
>
> Ken
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> At 10:09 AM 6/22/2017, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Just had a quick QSO with K7CW in CN87, and I’m hearing a strong beacon from Kansas. DXmaps.com has red all over :) At times like this it pays to jump on 6 meters. 73, Wayne N6KR



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Re: 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)

Leroy
a small three element beam works wonders on 6M

Leroy AB7CE

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Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:30 AM
To: Ken Arck
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)

Wow! I need a better antenna....

Wayne


> On Jun 22, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Ken Arck <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> I have 16 countries on 6 meters (and 82 on 2 meters!)
>
> Ken
>
>
> At 10:09 AM 6/22/2017, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Just had a quick QSO with K7CW in CN87, and I’m hearing a strong beacon
>> from Kansas. DXmaps.com has red all over :) At times like this it pays to
>> jump on 6 meters. 73, Wayne N6KR



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Re: 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)

Ken G Kopp
I keep a 6M GP ... actually a 2M 5/8 wave vertical ... connected to my
K3's 2nd receiver antenna input (only) and monitoring 50.125 all the time.
The 2nd receiver is worth the investment for this purpose alone, IMO.

73!

Ken Kopp - K0PP

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Re: 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)

Jim Brown-10
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On Thu,6/22/2017 10:09 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Just had a quick QSO with K7CW in CN87, and I’m hearing a strong beacon from Kansas. DXmaps.com has red all over:)

I heard you CQing and spotted you.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)

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That's telling me that six meters could be a valuable band during Field Day.  Consider having at least a dipole antenna that can to put into service.  If the E-clouds are active, participants could pick up quite a few points in a band that has lots of room.  The "skip" moves around a lot, but FD QSOs are short, so it could be a very productive band.  And you don't need power.. QRP is often as good as QRO.


73 de Ray
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Just had a quick QSO with K7CW in CN87, and I’m hearing a strong beacon from Kansas. DXmaps.com has red all over :)At times like this it pays to jump on 6 meters. 73,WayneN6KR______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:[hidden email] list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to [hidden email]
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Re: 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)

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If you have a K3, K3S, or KX3, with the built-in auto tuner, then any antenna is a 6 m antenna :-)

Wayne
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> On Jun 22, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Raymond Sills <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> That's telling me that six meters could be a valuable band during Field Day.  Consider having at least a dipole antenna that can to put into service.  If the E-clouds are active, participants could pick up quite a few points in a band that has lots of room.  The "skip" moves around a lot, but FD QSOs are short, so it could be a very productive band.  And you don't need power.. QRP is often as good as QRO.
>
>
> 73 de Ray
> K2ULR
> KX3 #211
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Thu, Jun 22, 2017 1:11 pm
> Subject: [Elecraft] 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)
>
> Just had a quick QSO with K7CW in CN87, and I’m hearing a strong beacon from Kansas. DXmaps.com has red all over :)At times like this it pays to jump on 6 meters. 73,WayneN6KR______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:[hidden email] list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to [hidden email]
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Re: 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)

tomb18
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BiHmmm, not my minibeam...a cushceaft ma5b.. Can't tune that at 6mTomva2fsq.com 


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-------- Original message --------From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> Date: 2017-06-22  3:48 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Raymond Sills <[hidden email]> Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)
If you have a K3, K3S, or KX3, with the built-in auto tuner, then any antenna is a 6 m antenna :-)

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> On Jun 22, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Raymond Sills <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> That's telling me that six meters could be a valuable band during Field Day.  Consider having at least a dipole antenna that can to put into service.  If the E-clouds are active, participants could pick up quite a few points in a band that has lots of room.  The "skip" moves around a lot, but FD QSOs are short, so it could be a very productive band.  And you don't need power.. QRP is often as good as QRO.
>
>
> 73 de Ray
> K2ULR
> KX3 #211
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Thu, Jun 22, 2017 1:11 pm
> Subject: [Elecraft] 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)
>
> Just had a quick QSO with K7CW in CN87, and I’m hearing a strong beacon from Kansas. DXmaps.com has red all over :)At times like this it pays to jump on 6 meters. 73,WayneN6KR______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:[hidden email] list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to [hidden email]
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Re: 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)

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It's probably pretty narrow-banded. Did you try tapping ATU TUNE a second time within five seconds? The tuner tries about twice as many settings when you do that.

73,
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> On Jun 22, 2017, at 1:06 PM, tomb18 <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Bi
> Hmmm, not my minibeam...a cushceaft ma5b.. Can't tune that at 6m
> Tom
> va2fsq.com
>
>
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> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
> Date: 2017-06-22 3:48 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Raymond Sills <[hidden email]>
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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)
>
> If you have a K3, K3S, or KX3, with the built-in auto tuner, then any antenna is a 6 m antenna :-)
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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> > On Jun 22, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Raymond Sills <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > That's telling me that six meters could be a valuable band during Field Day.  Consider having at least a dipole antenna that can to put into service.  If the E-clouds are active, participants could pick up quite a few points in a band that has lots of room.  The "skip" moves around a lot, but FD QSOs are short, so it could be a very productive band.  And you don't need power.. QRP is often as good as QRO.
> >
> >
> > 73 de Ray
> > K2ULR
> > KX3 #211
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> > Sent: Thu, Jun 22, 2017 1:11 pm
> > Subject: [Elecraft] 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)
> >
> > Just had a quick QSO with K7CW in CN87, and I’m hearing a strong beacon from Kansas. DXmaps.com has red all over :)At times like this it pays to jump on 6 meters. 73,WayneN6KR______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:[hidden email] list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to [hidden email]
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Re: 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)

tomb18
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YesBut it's funny because other people seem to be able to tune the antenna on 6.Oh well, I'm in the process of making a 6m vertical dipole. 73 Tom 


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-------- Original message --------From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> Date: 2017-06-22  4:08 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: tomb18 <[hidden email]> Cc: Raymond Sills <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)
It's probably pretty narrow-banded. Did you try tapping ATU TUNE a second time within five seconds? The tuner tries about twice as many settings when you do that.

73,
Wayne
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On Jun 22, 2017, at 1:06 PM, tomb18 <[hidden email]> wrote:

BiHmmm, not my minibeam...a cushceaft ma5b.. Can't tune that at 6mTomva2fsq.com 


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-------- Original message --------From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> Date: 2017-06-22  3:48 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Raymond Sills <[hidden email]> Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)
If you have a K3, K3S, or KX3, with the built-in auto tuner, then any antenna is a 6 m antenna :-)

Wayne
N6KR


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> On Jun 22, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Raymond Sills <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> That's telling me that six meters could be a valuable band during Field Day.  Consider having at least a dipole antenna that can to put into service.  If the E-clouds are active, participants could pick up quite a few points in a band that has lots of room.  The "skip" moves around a lot, but FD QSOs are short, so it could be a very productive band.  And you don't need power.. QRP is often as good as QRO.
>
>
> 73 de Ray
> K2ULR
> KX3 #211
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Thu, Jun 22, 2017 1:11 pm
> Subject: [Elecraft] 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)
>
> Just had a quick QSO with K7CW in CN87, and I’m hearing a strong beacon from Kansas. DXmaps.com has red all over :)At times like this it pays to jump on 6 meters. 73,WayneN6KR______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:[hidden email] list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to [hidden email]
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Re: 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)

k6dgw
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Well... I have an 80-10 End Fed on the top of the wood fence.  My KAT3
easily tunes it to 6 meters with 1.1:1 SWR, however I've heard nothing
except NW Reno [~10 mi], which probably wasn't Es.  Two reasons come to
mind:

1.  The antenna is one-way on 6 meters

2.  Es is very selective as to location and apparently it isn't
selecting Sparks NV.

73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn

On 6/22/2017 12:48 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> If you have a K3, K3S, or KX3, with the built-in auto tuner, then any antenna is a 6 m antenna :-)
>
> Wayne
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Re: 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
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Yes, even my 160M center fed dipole {256 ft}  with its balanced feed
line and a 4:1 Guanella dual core current balun works quite nice on 6M.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 6/22/2017 2:48 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> If you have a K3, K3S, or KX3, with the built-in auto tuner, then any antenna is a 6 m antenna :-)
>
> Wayne
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>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Raymond Sills <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> That's telling me that six meters could be a valuable band during Field Day.  Consider having at least a dipole antenna that can to put into service.  If the E-clouds are active, participants could pick up quite a few points in a band that has lots of room.  The "skip" moves around a lot, but FD QSOs are short, so it could be a very productive band.  And you don't need power.. QRP is often as good as QRO.
>>
>>
>> 73 de Ray
>> K2ULR
>> KX3 #211
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
>> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Thu, Jun 22, 2017 1:11 pm
>> Subject: [Elecraft] 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)
>>
>> Just had a quick QSO with K7CW in CN87, and I’m hearing a strong beacon from Kansas. DXmaps.com has red all over :)At times like this it pays to jump on 6 meters. 73,WayneN6KR______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:[hidden email] list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to [hidden email]
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Re: 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)

Leroy
Yes the tuners are great, and my 160 mtr full wave loop makes a good  6mtr
antenna, especially on receive.

But something about 6 mtrs on a beam, magic.

Hf beams, yeah they do mostly what you expect.  But something about the
short wave length, maybe.

Maybe 2 mtrs is that way too, I don't know.

But every 6 meter beam I have kicks butt.

My KX3 and a portable MFJ 6 meter 3ele beam works like a big gun station.

Leroy AB7CE

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Yes, even my 160M center fed dipole {256 ft}  with its balanced feed
line and a 4:1 Guanella dual core current balun works quite nice on 6M.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 6/22/2017 2:48 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> If you have a K3, K3S, or KX3, with the built-in auto tuner, then any
> antenna is a 6 m antenna :-)
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
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>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Raymond Sills <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> That's telling me that six meters could be a valuable band during Field
>> Day.  Consider having at least a dipole antenna that can to put into
>> service.  If the E-clouds are active, participants could pick up quite a
>> few points in a band that has lots of room.  The "skip" moves around a
>> lot, but FD QSOs are short, so it could be a very productive band.  And
>> you don't need power.. QRP is often as good as QRO.
>>
>>
>> 73 de Ray
>> K2ULR
>> KX3 #211
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
>> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Thu, Jun 22, 2017 1:11 pm
>> Subject: [Elecraft] 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)
>>
>> Just had a quick QSO with K7CW in CN87, and I’m hearing a strong beacon
>> from Kansas. DXmaps.com has red all over :)At times like this it pays to
>> jump on 6 meters.
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Re: 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)

Charlie T, K3ICH
I think a lot of that comes from the fact that the average active 6M station runs a modest beam & 100 W.
So, any less than that average is at a disadvantage.
Obviously some run yuge beams and legal limit. Those station get through 1st, followed by the average stations and finally the rest.
6M offers every propagation mode known at one time or another. However, some openings only last a matter of minutes.
This is especially true for multiple hop sporadic E, not so much as when the MUF makes it to 50 MHz for true F2 openings.
F2 seems to last a tad longer.  Sporadic E can also be very localized where stations 50 miles apart are not in the "skip-zone".
During very active times, a few of us in the DC area keep in touch on 2M FM. We have all found for example, many times a station in Baltimore MD will hear the DX fine but someone in say, in no. Virginia hears nothing.
Give it twenty minutes and the situation reverses.
I have been active on 50MHz for over 50 years.  Taking advantage of the 6M propagation requires much more listening than transmitting because, relating to the comment above, calling a station in the noise is probably just clobbering the guys who CAN hear it.
Listen 1st. Analyze who's working what and where before just blasting away.
The beacons around 50.05 to 50.08 will tell you where the propagation is favoring. These beacons are all over the world, so use them to your advantage.

73, Charlie k3ICH



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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of lmarion
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To: [hidden email]; Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)

Yes the tuners are great, and my 160 mtr full wave loop makes a good  6mtr antenna, especially on receive.

But something about 6 mtrs on a beam, magic.

Hf beams, yeah they do mostly what you expect.  But something about the short wave length, maybe.

Maybe 2 mtrs is that way too, I don't know.

But every 6 meter beam I have kicks butt.

My KX3 and a portable MFJ 6 meter 3ele beam works like a big gun station.

Leroy AB7CE



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