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I have some really nice 8AWG cable for my power line. Connecting to the PS is not a problem, but haven't figured out an "elegant" means to drop it down to use with 30A PP connectors. Any ideas?
Thanks, Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Hi Julius:
I'm using #8 in my mobile installation and had to get it down to a more suitable gauge for the APP connectors. I made a couple butt-joint connectors from short (1") lengths of brass 'hobby tubing' obtained at the local hardware store. I took a short piece of the #8 wire with me and selected the smallest diameter of brass tubing that would still accommodate the stripped #8 wire. I then cut two 1" lengths, inserted one #8 wire (stripped to show 1/2" of wire into the tubing, flowed more than ample solder in from the other end. Let it cool while I did the other conductor. Returned to tube #1 and heated it back up while gently inserting the 1/2"-stripped end of my #10 wire (which does fit the APP 45A connector). Let solder set and cover with a 1-1/2" length of heatshrink and yer good to go! Works like a champ. I could have used 'real' #8 butt-join connectors, but they were too large and 'clunky' for my liking... the brass hobby tubing works great, and it'll handle well over the 20A-30A needed by most rigs and accessories. 73, Tom N0SS At 07:46 02/16/2009, Julius Fazekas wrote: >I have some really nice 8AWG cable for my power line. Connecting to >the PS is not a problem, but haven't figured out an "elegant" means >to drop it down to use with 30A PP connectors. Any ideas? > >Thanks, > >Julius Fazekas >N2WN > >Tennessee Contest Group >TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ > >Elecraft K2/100 #4455 >Elecraft K3/100 #366 >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Julius,
Solder a short pigtail of #10 or #12 to the ends. It can be made quite 'elegant' and professional looking with heat shrink tubing. 73, Don W3FPR Julius Fazekas wrote: > I have some really nice 8AWG cable for my power line. Connecting to the PS is not a problem, but haven't figured out an "elegant" means to drop it down to use with 30A PP connectors. Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > Julius Fazekas > N2WN > > Tennessee Contest Group > TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ > > Elecraft K2/100 #4455 > Elecraft K3/100 #366 > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1955 - Release Date: 02/16/09 06:55:00 > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Julius:
If it is conventional 8AWG wire, it probably will fit in the 45A crimps for the Anderson Power Pole Connectors. Those same contacts fit in the enclosures that fit our Elecraft PP. Just be cautious when crimping it down. If you have access to the Anderson Die Crimp tool rather than the West Mountain Combo, I would recommend using that one. Tim Raymer K2 #1383 73 de KA0OUV -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Julius Fazekas Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 07:47 To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter I have some really nice 8AWG cable for my power line. Connecting to the PS is not a problem, but haven't figured out an "elegant" means to drop it down to use with 30A PP connectors. Any ideas? Thanks, Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi Tom,
I like it! May even have some suitable tubing on hand. Just out of curiosity, have you used the APP connectors from old UPS units for anything? We had a couple of units with fried boards and the connectors (and several other parts)) were just too good to dispose of :o) All of my power distribution has the same size APP as on the K3, KPA100, etc. I have a nice 50A adjustable rack mount supply I want to use about 10 feet from the operating position, so 8AWG seems to fit the bill. Hope you're doing well! 73, Julius Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 --- On Mon, 2/16/09, Tom Hammond <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Tom Hammond <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter > To: [hidden email], [hidden email] > Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 8:57 AM > Hi Julius: > > I'm using #8 in my mobile installation and had to get > it down to a more > suitable gauge for the APP connectors. > > I made a couple butt-joint connectors from short (1") > lengths of brass > 'hobby tubing' obtained at the local hardware > store. I took a short piece > of the #8 wire with me and selected the smallest diameter > of brass tubing > that would still accommodate the stripped #8 wire. > > I then cut two 1" lengths, inserted one #8 wire > (stripped to show 1/2" of > wire into the tubing, flowed more than ample solder in from > the other end. > Let it cool while I did the other conductor. Returned to > tube #1 and heated > it back up while gently inserting the 1/2"-stripped > end of my #10 wire > (which does fit the APP 45A connector). Let solder set and > cover with a > 1-1/2" length of heatshrink and yer good to go! Works > like a champ. > > I could have used 'real' #8 butt-join connectors, > but they were too large > and 'clunky' for my liking... the brass hobby > tubing works great, and it'll > handle well over the 20A-30A needed by most rigs and > accessories. > > 73, > > Tom N0SS > > > > At 07:46 02/16/2009, Julius Fazekas wrote: > >I have some really nice 8AWG cable for my power line. > Connecting to > >the PS is not a problem, but haven't figured out an > "elegant" means > >to drop it down to use with 30A PP connectors. Any > ideas? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Julius Fazekas > >N2WN > > > >Tennessee Contest Group > >TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ > > > >Elecraft K2/100 #4455 > >Elecraft K3/100 #366 > >______________________________________________________________ > >Elecraft mailing list > >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Hi Tim,
Didn't know they made those. Do you know the part number? Does WMR have them? Thanks, Julius Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 --- On Mon, 2/16/09, Timothy Raymer <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Timothy Raymer <[hidden email]> > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter > To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>, "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 9:12 AM > Julius: > > If it is conventional 8AWG wire, it probably will fit in > the 45A crimps for the Anderson Power Pole Connectors. > Those same contacts fit in the enclosures that fit our > Elecraft PP. Just be cautious when crimping it down. If > you have access to the Anderson Die Crimp tool rather than > the West Mountain Combo, I would recommend using that one. > > Tim Raymer > K2 #1383 > 73 de KA0OUV > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of > Julius Fazekas > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 07:47 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter > > I have some really nice 8AWG cable for my power line. > Connecting to the PS is not a problem, but haven't > figured out an "elegant" means to drop it down to > use with 30A PP connectors. Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > Julius Fazekas > N2WN > > Tennessee Contest Group > TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ > > Elecraft K2/100 #4455 > Elecraft K3/100 #366 > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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I got mine when Tom, N0SS, did a bulk order for the club. I believe WMR does stock them. 261G2 is the contact P/N they list on their web site. Actually rated for only 10 gauge wire.
If you have conventional soft-drawn copper 8 AWG wire, you might be able to get them to crimp. I ran into trouble with some specialized 10 AWG wire for stereo installations. Copper was lots of fine wires, and a harder draw. It wouldn't compress enough, and the cast die from the WMR crimp tool didn't like it. Tim Raymer 73 de KA0OUV -----Original Message----- From: Julius Fazekas [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 08:16 To: [hidden email]; Timothy Raymer Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter Hi Tim, Didn't know they made those. Do you know the part number? Does WMR have them? Thanks, Julius Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 --- On Mon, 2/16/09, Timothy Raymer <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Timothy Raymer <[hidden email]> > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter > To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>, "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 9:12 AM > Julius: > > If it is conventional 8AWG wire, it probably will fit in > the 45A crimps for the Anderson Power Pole Connectors. > Those same contacts fit in the enclosures that fit our > Elecraft PP. Just be cautious when crimping it down. If > you have access to the Anderson Die Crimp tool rather than > the West Mountain Combo, I would recommend using that one. > > Tim Raymer > K2 #1383 > 73 de KA0OUV > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of > Julius Fazekas > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 07:47 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter > > I have some really nice 8AWG cable for my power line. > Connecting to the PS is not a problem, but haven't > figured out an "elegant" means to drop it down to > use with 30A PP connectors. Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > Julius Fazekas > N2WN > > Tennessee Contest Group > TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ > > Elecraft K2/100 #4455 > Elecraft K3/100 #366 > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Use pigtail wires of the largest guage the PP connectors will accept, to
interface between the #8 AWG and the PP connectors. Milt, N5IA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julius Fazekas" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:46 AM Subject: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter >I have some really nice 8AWG cable for my power line. Connecting to the PS >is not a problem, but haven't figured out an "elegant" means to drop it >down to use with 30A PP connectors. Any ideas? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Tim,
This stuff will definitely not go into the 30A connector, doubtful on the 45A either. It is a multi-strand cable. Looks like Tom's suggestion will work best. Cheers, Julius Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 --- On Mon, 2/16/09, Timothy Raymer <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Timothy Raymer <[hidden email]> > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter > To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>, "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 9:23 AM > I got mine when Tom, N0SS, did a bulk order for the club. I > believe WMR does stock them. 261G2 is the contact P/N they > list on their web site. Actually rated for only 10 gauge > wire. > > If you have conventional soft-drawn copper 8 AWG wire, you > might be able to get them to crimp. I ran into trouble with > some specialized 10 AWG wire for stereo installations. > Copper was lots of fine wires, and a harder draw. It > wouldn't compress enough, and the cast die from the WMR > crimp tool didn't like it. > > Tim Raymer > > 73 de KA0OUV > > -----Original Message----- > From: Julius Fazekas [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 08:16 > To: [hidden email]; Timothy Raymer > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter > > Hi Tim, > > Didn't know they made those. Do you know the part > number? Does WMR have them? > > Thanks, > Julius > > Julius Fazekas > N2WN > > Tennessee Contest Group > TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ > > Elecraft K2/100 #4455 > Elecraft K3/100 #366 > > > --- On Mon, 2/16/09, Timothy Raymer > <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > From: Timothy Raymer <[hidden email]> > > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter > > To: "[hidden email]" > <[hidden email]>, > "[hidden email]" > <[hidden email]> > > Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 9:12 AM > > Julius: > > > > If it is conventional 8AWG wire, it probably will fit > in > > the 45A crimps for the Anderson Power Pole Connectors. > > > Those same contacts fit in the enclosures that fit our > > Elecraft PP. Just be cautious when crimping it down. > If > > you have access to the Anderson Die Crimp tool rather > than > > the West Mountain Combo, I would recommend using that > one. > > > > Tim Raymer > > K2 #1383 > > 73 de KA0OUV > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [hidden email] > > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of > > Julius Fazekas > > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 07:47 > > To: [hidden email] > > Subject: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter > > > > I have some really nice 8AWG cable for my power line. > > Connecting to the PS is not a problem, but haven't > > figured out an "elegant" means to drop it > down to > > use with 30A PP connectors. Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Julius Fazekas > > N2WN > > > > Tennessee Contest Group > > TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ > > > > Elecraft K2/100 #4455 > > Elecraft K3/100 #366 > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: > > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Looks like the Anderson P/N for the 45A crimper is 1309G3. Is there that
much of a difference between it and the WMR tool? It appears that the Anderson dies may be of better quality and the leverage may be optimized for the 45A connector, where the WMR tool might be a compromise in order to facilitate three crimp sizes. At roughly USD $200 for the Anderson tool, that's quite expensive for just one APP size. Is it possible to simply swap dies between the 45A and 15/30A sizes and save on the expense of owning two ratcheting tools? Paul, W9AC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Those short #10 pigtails need to be very flexible. You can go to a car
audio shop and by extremely flexible wire by the foot. If it almost fits the connector, snip off a few strands. The stuff I got is "speaker cable" but I use it for power leads. Very nice. Windy KM5Q > Use pigtail wires of the largest guage the PP connectors will > accept, to > interface between the #8 AWG and the PP connectors. > > Milt, N5IA ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi Windy:
>Those short #10 pigtails need to be very flexible. You can go to a car >audio shop and by extremely flexible wire by the foot. If it almost >fits the connector, snip off a few strands. > >The stuff I got is "speaker cable" but I use it for power leads. Very >nice. I used a 4"-6" length of #10 RED-BLK power cable (from somewhere unknown) which was quite flexible and worked great. And all(!) of the wire strands fit nicely into the trough of the 45A connector. I used the West Mountain Radio crimper and it did a really nice job on the 45A (and other sizes) of connector. It would probably have choked had I tried to use it on #10 solid copper and possibly on hard-drawn copper, just Like Tim, KA0OUV, noted. I've not broken any dies... yet! <G> 73, Tom Hammond N0SS ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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HRO now stocks a kit that has a crimping tool for Anderson connectors. I
think it has a number of different sizes. The kit also has a coax cutter and a the crimp tool has dies for coax too. The kit was around $120.00 all in a nice plastic box. The WMR crimp tool I have does 45A connectors. I have never tried to crimp them. "A slip of the foot you may soon recover, but a slip of the tongue you may never get over." Ben Franklin -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Paul Christensen Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:13 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] 45A APP Crimper Looks like the Anderson P/N for the 45A crimper is 1309G3. Is there that much of a difference between it and the WMR tool? It appears that the Anderson dies may be of better quality and the leverage may be optimized for the 45A connector, where the WMR tool might be a compromise in order to facilitate three crimp sizes. At roughly USD $200 for the Anderson tool, that's quite expensive for just one APP size. Is it possible to simply swap dies between the 45A and 15/30A sizes and save on the expense of owning two ratcheting tools? Paul, W9AC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Soldering is an option if you don't have a crimping tool.
"A slip of the foot you may soon recover, but a slip of the tongue you may never get over." Ben Franklin -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Tom Hammond Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:23 AM To: KM5Q; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 8 AWG adapter Hi Windy: >Those short #10 pigtails need to be very flexible. You can go to a car >audio shop and by extremely flexible wire by the foot. If it almost >fits the connector, snip off a few strands. > >The stuff I got is "speaker cable" but I use it for power leads. Very >nice. I used a 4"-6" length of #10 RED-BLK power cable (from somewhere unknown) which was quite flexible and worked great. And all(!) of the wire strands fit nicely into the trough of the 45A connector. I used the West Mountain Radio crimper and it did a really nice job on the 45A (and other sizes) of connector. It would probably have choked had I tried to use it on #10 solid copper and possibly on hard-drawn copper, just Like Tim, KA0OUV, noted. I've not broken any dies... yet! <G> 73, Tom Hammond N0SS ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Why not trim off a few strands of the #10 to make it fit and then, if necessary, cover with heat shrink? Sounds much better than another solder/butt joint and would have less resistance. While discussing APP's, I was taught that connections should ONLY be crimped. In the nuclear power industry connections that were just soldered or soldered and crimped were rejected by QA as they would fail due to vibrations, movement, etc. at the transition from the soldered area to the unsoldered portion of the wire. Any that I have ever made have always failed at this transition. Essentially ALL connections in the electrical power/distribution industry are crimped for this reason. and they handle many more amps than a K3. Rich, KE0X |
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I don't think we are subjected to the same issues as a Nuclear plant. I
have had numerous crimped purchased cables fail because of a lousy crimp job covered up by heat shrink. If you are working on very small wires with Anderson connectors I am not sure how you could ever get it crimp right. "A slip of the foot you may soon recover, but a slip of the tongue you may never get over." Ben Franklin -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rich Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 11:24 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 45A APP Crimper Why not trim off a few strands of the #10 to make it fit and then, if necessary, cover with heat shrink? Sounds much better than another solder/butt joint and would have less resistance. While discussing APP's, I was taught that connections should ONLY be crimped. In the nuclear power industry connections that were just soldered or soldered and crimped were rejected by QA as they would fail due to vibrations, movement, etc. at the transition from the soldered area to the unsoldered portion of the wire. Any that I have ever made have always failed at this transition. Essentially ALL connections in the electrical power/distribution industry are crimped for this reason. and they handle many more amps than a K3. Rich, KE0X -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/8-AWG-adapter-tp2334886p2336384.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by Julius Fazekas n2wn
APP housings come in four physical sizes with current ratings up to 180A. The next size up from our familiar 15-45A housings is the PP75. It is good for 6-16 AWG wires. There are adapters (multi-connector blocks) that include both these larger connectors and the smaller ones. HRO carries this stuff here in the Bay Area.
/Rick N6XI On 2/16/09, Julius Fazekas <[hidden email]> wrote: I have some really nice 8AWG cable for my power line. Connecting to the PS is not a problem, but haven't figured out an "elegant" means to drop it down to use with 30A PP connectors. Any ideas? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Sounds like it's time for me to repost this link to my favorite
article about amateur wiring, solder and crimping :-) http://www.dimebank.com/misc/soldered_connections.html I (almost) never use the ubiquitous insulated terminals that are intended to be crimped once, crushing and uglifying the plastic sleeve in the process. I pull the stupid sleeve, use a heavy duty crimper (I have appropriate dies for my West Mountain crimper), and put on a layer or two of heat shrink to stabilize the joint. If I expect the connection to be out in the weather, I lightly solder the open end to avoid moisture entering the crimp. Even if it's airtight, it can't hurt. 73 de chris K6DBG ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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