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8v tx voltage

Jesus L. Paleo
Hello all, i am in the adjust phase of build my K2. My main problem not
solved yet is that 8V tx voltage line is with 5.1 v permanet.
Microprocesor tx order is down and rx is up, so here all is rigth,
colector of Q1 is with 5.1. Also RX voltage seem to be down, not 8V but
6.5. Receiver work, i receive the signal from a external generator, but
display not show agc indicator. Calibration of display also seem to work
fine. Can someone ligth me in a good direction, Thanks.

Jesus, EA1DAV.
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RE: 8v tx voltage

Don Wilhelm-3
Jesus,

You will have to resolve that problem before proceeding.
The most likely cause is something wrong with Q1, Q2, Q3 or Q4 on the
control board.

First check the operation of the TX and RX signals.  During Receive, RX
should be near 5 volts at the gate of Q4 and TX should be near ground at the
base of Q3.  During transmit, the opposite conditions should be true.  If
both RX and TX are the same state you could have a bad microprocessor.

Next check the output of the 8 volt regulator.  It should be within 10% of 8
volts.

Be certain Q1 and Q2 are 2N3906 and are properly oriented.  Also Q3 and Q4
should be 2N7000 and must be properly oriented.  Check and recheck the
soldering.

With the K2 in receive (RX at 5 volts) check that the drain of Q4 is at
ground potential.  Then check to be certain the drain of Q3 is not at ground
potential, it should measure about 8 volts.  Both the base and emitter of Q1
should be at 8 volts and the Q1 collector voltage should be at 0 volts.  Q2
should have 8 volts on its emitter and about 0.7 volts less on the base
which should make the collector close to 8 volts.

When the K2 is in transmit state, the conditions at Q3 and Q4 listed above
should be reversed from that shown in the paragraph above (Q3 conducting and
Q4 not conducting) also the conditions at Q1 and Q2 should also reverse (Q1
base at 8 volts, collector at zero) and Q2 base at 7.3 volts and collector
at 8 volts.

If these conditions are not correct at Q1 and Q2, check the soldering of RP1
on the control board.

As one other item is Q23 on the RF Board.  During receive the gate should be
zero volts and the drain should be 8 volts.  During transmit the gate should
be at 8 volts and the drain would be at zero.  Be certain Q23 is oriented
correctly and is a 2N7000.

Good luck with it.

73,
Don W3FPR


> -----Original Message-----
>
> Hello all, i am in the adjust phase of build my K2. My main problem not
> solved yet is that 8V tx voltage line is with 5.1 v permanet.
> Microprocesor tx order is down and rx is up, so here all is rigth,
> colector of Q1 is with 5.1. Also RX voltage seem to be down, not 8V but
> 6.5. Receiver work, i receive the signal from a external generator, but
> display not show agc indicator. Calibration of display also seem to work
> fine. Can someone ligth me in a good direction, Thanks.
>
> Jesus, EA1DAV.
>
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Re: 8v tx voltage

Jesus L. Paleo
Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Jesus,
>
> You will have to resolve that problem before proceeding.
> The most likely cause is something wrong with Q1, Q2, Q3 or Q4 on the
> control board.
>
> First check the operation of the TX and RX signals.  During Receive, RX
> should be near 5 volts at the gate of Q4 and TX should be near ground at the
> base of Q3.  During transmit, the opposite conditions should be true.  If
> both RX and TX are the same state you could have a bad microprocessor.
>
> Next check the output of the 8 volt regulator.  It should be within 10% of 8
> volts.
>
> Be certain Q1 and Q2 are 2N3906 and are properly oriented.  Also Q3 and Q4
> should be 2N7000 and must be properly oriented.  Check and recheck the
> soldering.
>
> With the K2 in receive (RX at 5 volts) check that the drain of Q4 is at
> ground potential.  Then check to be certain the drain of Q3 is not at ground
> potential, it should measure about 8 volts.  Both the base and emitter of Q1
> should be at 8 volts and the Q1 collector voltage should be at 0 volts.  Q2
> should have 8 volts on its emitter and about 0.7 volts less on the base
> which should make the collector close to 8 volts.
>
> When the K2 is in transmit state, the conditions at Q3 and Q4 listed above
> should be reversed from that shown in the paragraph above (Q3 conducting and
> Q4 not conducting) also the conditions at Q1 and Q2 should also reverse (Q1
> base at 8 volts, collector at zero) and Q2 base at 7.3 volts and collector
> at 8 volts.
>
> If these conditions are not correct at Q1 and Q2, check the soldering of RP1
> on the control board.
>
> As one other item is Q23 on the RF Board.  During receive the gate should be
> zero volts and the drain should be 8 volts.  During transmit the gate should
> be at 8 volts and the drain would be at zero.  Be certain Q23 is oriented
> correctly and is a 2N7000.
>
> Good luck with it.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
>  
I check all the steeps you say in the mail. Transistors are rigth in his
place and pins ok in the board. Voltages are as it can be at gate and
base of transistors, emiter voltages are 8V, but, colector of q1 is 5.1
and colector of q2 is 6.5. I continue loss.

Thanks.


>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> Hello all, i am in the adjust phase of build my K2. My main problem not
>> solved yet is that 8V tx voltage line is with 5.1 v permanet.
>> Microprocesor tx order is down and rx is up, so here all is rigth,
>> colector of Q1 is with 5.1. Also RX voltage seem to be down, not 8V but
>> 6.5. Receiver work, i receive the signal from a external generator, but
>> display not show agc indicator. Calibration of display also seem to work
>> fine. Can someone ligth me in a good direction, Thanks.
>>
>> Jesus, EA1DAV.
>>
>>    
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Re: 8v tx voltage

Jesus L. Paleo
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Jesus L. Paleo wrote:
> Hello all, i am in the adjust phase of build my K2. My main problem
> not solved yet is that 8V tx voltage line is with 5.1 v permanet.
> Microprocesor tx order is down and rx is up, so here all is rigth,
> colector of Q1 is with 5.1. Also RX voltage seem to be down, not 8V
> but 6.5. Receiver work, i receive the signal from a external
> generator, but display not show agc indicator. Calibration of display
> also seem to work fine. Can someone ligth me in a good direction, Thanks.
>
> Jesus, EA1DAV.

SOLVED!

The mistake was in the antena PIN diode switch, D1 was reversed. Sorry
by the noise in the list and thanks by all answers.
I continue the adjust, hope no more like this ;-)

Regards.

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