A Heartfelt Plea
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I know that I am new to this list but I’d like to make a plea from the heart (I will be posting the same plea on some other groups):
Would list members please, please, please think about what they are doing when they quote an entire message (and sometimes many, many replies) when posting to the list. Sometimes there are quotes of quotes of quotes and the content is actually just one line! In the main, I read this list on my phone and I sometimes find it almost impossible sometimes to actually find the intended content! What’s wrong with editing what you’re going to quote - and perhaps using <snip> to show that you’ve done it? Thank you for reading this and I hope that it will have a positive effect. 73 David G4NRT ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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As usual, everyone has an opinion! ;)
I have been involved with Internet mail lists (many hams call 'em reflectors) since before there was a world wide web. Proper etiquette is to "top post" like I have done, so it's easy to read the current reply. Often, "snipping" a message content will lose important context that a later reader might want to reference. Most mail lists (this one included) are archived. Just my humble $0.02. 73, Chris K1AY On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:54 AM, David Bondy G4NRT <[hidden email]> wrote: > I know that I am new to this list but I'd like to make a plea from the > heart (I will be posting the same plea on some other groups): > > Would list members please, please, please think about what they are doing > when they quote an entire message (and sometimes many, many replies) when > posting to the list. > > Sometimes there are quotes of quotes of quotes and the content is actually > just one line! > > In the main, I read this list on my phone and I sometimes find it almost > impossible sometimes to actually find the intended content! > > What's wrong with editing what you're going to quote - and perhaps using > <snip> to show that you've done it? > > Thank you for reading this and I hope that it will have a positive effect. > > 73 > > David G4NRT > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] -- Life is like Linux - it never stands still. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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> On Dec 30, 2014, at 10:51, Chris Hallinan <[hidden email]> wrote: > > As usual, everyone has an opinion! ;) > > […] Proper etiquette is > to "top post" like I have done, so it's easy to read the current reply. > […] As you rightly point out, everyone has an opinion. I think that the convention varies from community to community. The Outlook and Exchange clan seems to like top-posting. The old USENET / Unix folks see to prefer bottom posting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style and for fun : https://www.google.com/search?q=top+posting+considered+harmful Best advice here is to get guidance from the moderator and failing that - the community consensus. In either case, consistency is better than alternative - which I admit - I have done here. Since this is a meta discussion, I will refrain from responding further to limit list traffic. Private comments are welcome. There is a certain amount of humor intended here. Sincerely, Alan K2ACK M0WTH IO91 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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In reply to this post by David Bondy G4NRT
This topic has already been addressed by Elecraft:
http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm John AE5X http://www.ae5x.com/blog >As you rightly point out, everyone has an opinion ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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In reply to this post by Chris Hallinan
On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Chris Hallinan wrote:
> As usual, everyone has an opinion! ;) Of course, > Proper etiquette is to "top post" In my day, top posting was considered most impolite, while snipping and interspersing replies (to give just enough context while keeping the messages as short as possible) was considered proper. > Most mail lists (this one included) are archived. ....and, if messages are properly threaded, only the most minimal quoting should be required. > Just my humble $0.02. ....and my tuppence. ;) 73, Rick 5Z4/M0LEP ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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In reply to this post by David Bondy G4NRT
Hi, David -- and welcome to the list.
Generally I agree with your comment, though I'm sure I occasionally forget to edit as much as I should. OTOH -- deleting too much can make the reply pretty hard to understand, so both extremes should be avoided. The other thing is that these lists were never designed to be read on the limited screen of a smartphone -- and since I sometimes use mine to read the messages, I realize what a problem the limited real estate of those screens can cause. Still, I'd rather read here with my iPhone than post messages here with it's keyboard:-) 73, Phil W7OX On 12/29/14 11:54 PM, David Bondy G4NRT wrote: > I know that I am new to this list but I’d like to make a plea from the heart (I will be posting the same plea on some other groups): > > Would list members please, please, please think about what they are doing when they quote an entire message (and sometimes many, many replies) when posting to the list. > > Sometimes there are quotes of quotes of quotes and the content is actually just one line! > > In the main, I read this list on my phone and I sometimes find it almost impossible sometimes to actually find the intended content! > > What’s wrong with editing what you’re going to quote - and perhaps using <snip> to show that you’ve done it? > > Thank you for reading this and I hope that it will have a positive effect. > > 73 > > David G4NRT ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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