ANN: KComm 1.1 released
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Just a note to say that I have just released the latest version 1.1 of KComm, a logging program written specifically for Elecraft K2 and K3 transceivers, available for Windows and Linux.
This is a free program, written to meet my personal requirements, which I am making available in the hope that some other Elecraft enthusiasts may find it useful. To avoid wasting anyone's time, I will make it clear that this is a *logging* program, not a computer control program. The interface for operating the radio is the radio's front panel. If you want to be able to change frequency, band, mode, filter etc. using the keyboard or mouse then there are many other programs, including HRD, that can do that for you. KComm uses the same log format as MixW. Under Linux it can accept log data from gMFSK using IPC, similar to W1HKJ's Fl_log program. It has an option to create a separate backup copy of the log file at close down. This can be an FTP server. (An interesting future development would be a PHP script that can read MixW log files and display them in a web page.) KComm can send CW from the computer keyboard and up to 16 memories using the Elecraft KY software command. Under Windows it can also use CWGet to read Morse so you can easily transfer calls, reports, name, QTH etc. into the log by double-clicking the decoded text in the window. Under Windows KComm can also send and receive PSK31 and PSK63 using the computer sound card, with the aid of AE4JY's PSK Core DLL. It was the original intention that KComm would be able to send and receive PSK31 and RTTY using the K3's built in DSP encoder and decoder, without needing to use the sound card. Currently that ability is still awaiting a better way of getting at the decoded text than the TT1 command provides, as it is impossible to separate the decoded text from other responses sent by the radio. All the KComm documentation is on my web site, so you can find out everything you may need to know about the program by visiting http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html . Enjoy!
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
* G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html |
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Asus EEE ? Anyone doing that? Really looks good for Portable ops -- If you have the same ideas as everybody else but have them one week earlier than everyone else then you will be hailed as a visionary. But if you have them five years earlier you will be named a lunatic. -Barry Jones, politician, author (1932- ) On 9 Jun 2008, at 18:11, G4ILO wrote: > > Just a note to say that I have just released the latest version 1.1 > of KComm, > a logging program written specifically for Elecraft K2 and K3 > transceivers, > available for Windows and Linux. > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I have an Asus eee pc 4G (not the Surf).
It came with linux ..... worked great, but it was a real pain to install stuff - harder than with my ubuntu laptop. So I put XP, stripped down, on it. 15 seconds from power on to logon screen. Works with Writelog, WinkeyerUSB & the K3, and it does not use the noisy switching power supply that most laptops use. Have not tried PSK or RTTY yet, but see no reason why they won't work. Allthough the keyboard is a bit cramped, it is great for portable operation ..... and quite inexpensive compared to the bigger laptops. 72 73 Hank K8DD ----- Original Message ---- From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]> To: G4ILO <[hidden email]> Cc: [hidden email] Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 7:49:28 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ANN: KComm 1.1 released hmmm.... Asus EEE ? Anyone doing that? Really looks good for Portable ops -- If you have the same ideas as everybody else but have them one week earlier than everyone else then you will be hailed as a visionary. But if you have them five years earlier you will be named a lunatic. -Barry Jones, politician, author (1932- ) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Thanks
I'd like to avoid XP, mostly because I'm a Unix professional who needs a bit more time on Linux (I'm mostly Solaris) I've seen a colleagues Eee PC 701 and wondered, but I'd like to spend less, so was thinking of the 4G (701) any thought's most welcome 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- If all our misfortunes were laid in one common heap whence everyone must take an equal portion, most people would be contented to take their own and depart. -Socrates (469?-399 B.C.) On 10 Jun 2008, at 01:25, hank k8dd wrote: > I have an Asus eee pc 4G (not the Surf). > It came with linux ..... worked great, but it was a real > pain to install stuff - harder than with my ubuntu laptop. > So I put XP, stripped down, on it. > 15 seconds from power on to logon screen. > Works with Writelog, WinkeyerUSB & the K3, and it does > not use the noisy switching power supply that most > laptops use. > Have not tried PSK or RTTY yet, but see no reason why > they won't work. > Allthough the keyboard is a bit cramped, it is great for > portable operation ..... and quite inexpensive compared > to the bigger laptops. > > 72 73 Hank K8DD > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]> > To: G4ILO <[hidden email]> > Cc: [hidden email] > Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 7:49:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ANN: KComm 1.1 released > > hmmm.... > Asus EEE ? > > Anyone doing that? > > Really looks good for Portable ops Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I would love to try it on my EEE but I haven't been able to figure out how
to install any software on it. I am not what you would call Linux literate but I would love to give it a try. Where can I go to learn how to install software? John [K7SVV] ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]> To: "G4ILO" <[hidden email]> Cc: <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ANN: KComm 1.1 released > hmmm.... > Asus EEE ? > > Anyone doing that? > > Really looks good for Portable ops > -- If you have the same ideas as everybody else but have them one week > earlier > than everyone else then you will be hailed as a visionary. But if you > have > them five years earlier you will be named a lunatic. -Barry Jones, > politician, author (1932- ) > > On 9 Jun 2008, at 18:11, G4ILO wrote: > >> >> Just a note to say that I have just released the latest version 1.1 >> of KComm, >> a logging program written specifically for Elecraft K2 and K3 >> transceivers, >> available for Windows and Linux. >> > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.1.0/1492 - Release Date: 6/9/2008 10:29 AM _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I don't know since I haven't tried yet, but I'll find out from my
colleague tomorrow 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 - (Asus support !) -- One glance at a book and you hear the voice of another person, perhaps someone dead for 1,000 years. To read is to voyage through time. -Carl Sagan, astronomer and writer (1934-1996) On 10 Jun 2008, at 02:41, John K7SVV wrote: > I would love to try it on my EEE but I haven't been able to figure > out how to install any software on it. I am not what you would call > Linux literate but I would love to give it a try. Where can I go to > learn how to install software? > > John [K7SVV] > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email] > > > To: "G4ILO" <[hidden email]> > Cc: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:49 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ANN: KComm 1.1 released > > >> hmmm.... >> Asus EEE ? >> >> Anyone doing that? >> >> Really looks good for Portable ops >> -- If you have the same ideas as everybody else but have them one >> week >> earlier >> than everyone else then you will be hailed as a visionary. But if you >> have >> them five years earlier you will be named a lunatic. -Barry Jones, >> politician, author (1932- ) >> >> On 9 Jun 2008, at 18:11, G4ILO wrote: >> >>> >>> Just a note to say that I have just released the latest version 1.1 >>> of KComm, >>> a logging program written specifically for Elecraft K2 and K3 >>> transceivers, >>> available for Windows and Linux. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: [hidden email] >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.1.0/1492 - Release Date: > 6/9/2008 10:29 AM > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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KComm wasn't written with the Eee PC specifically in mind. With the window shrunk to show just the logging part it will fit on the Eee's screen, but with it opened up to show the CW/Data TX and RX windows it's just a bit too long. I tried to make it fit, but I couldn't without compromising usability on a regular screen. I think it will be OK on the newer Eees that have a bigger screen.
I could answer the question raised about how to install software on Linux but it is really off-topic for this reflector. There is a low-traffic Asus Eee PC Ham Radio forum at http://www.zerobeat.net/smf/index.php?board=24.0 which would really be a better place. I will be happy to give some advice there if anyone asks.
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
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About a week ago I had the opportunity to play for a short time with an Asus
EEE PC 4G on which the operating system had been changed to xubuntu (relatively easy to do I'm told) and the screen font size made smaller so that more would fit on the screen. It seemed to be an improvement on the OS supplied (xandros?) and might help with KComm, although I am not familiar with that program. However, Julian is probably right that the successor EEE PC900 which has just been released in the UK might be better as the screen is quite a bit bigger, without increasing the size of the machine itself. Also it has more memory - 20Gb for the Linux version. However it does cost a bit more. 73 to all Geoff G3UCK ----- Original Message ----- From: "G4ILO" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ANN: KComm 1.1 released > > KComm wasn't written with the Eee PC specifically in mind. With the window > shrunk to show just the logging part it will fit on the Eee's screen, but > with it opened up to show the CW/Data TX and RX windows it's just a bit > too > long. I tried to make it fit, but I couldn't without compromising > usability > on a regular screen. I think it will be OK on the newer Eees that have a > bigger screen. > > I could answer the question raised about how to install software on Linux > but it is really off-topic for this reflector. There is a low-traffic Asus > Eee PC Ham Radio forum at http://www.zerobeat.net/smf/index.php?board=24.0 > which would really be a better place. I will be happy to give some advice > there if anyone asks. > > ----- > Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 > G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com > Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/ANN%3A-KComm-1.1-released-tp17737451p17749860.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hello Dave
I am a linux professional who might need a bit more time on Solaris.. I have an eeePC and love it to bits. The Stock Xandros distro is very good for someone who just wants to 'do stuff' It's well put together and really integrates networking and wireless, even the support for 3G dongles is well integrated and dead easy to configure. Build quality is good. My Wife took an instant shine to it, so much so that she bought her own one! This is saying quite a lot because She has completely avoided computers up until now. However the stock distro, to me felt very limiting, you can configure it to have a normal menu and add standard debian repositories etc. Once you have done that it's a bit more usable. I am, however not a debian fan so I moved the eeePc's default distribution to a 4G flash card ( for dual boot) and installed Redhat Fedora8 on the internal hard disk with the xfce desktop (it's much lighter than KDE or Gnome). with a little bit of tweaking this works flawlessly, I will shortly be installing Fedora 9 which ships with eeePC support it's fast enough to do pretty much anything I throw at it, the keyboard is acceptable for it's size. For a systems admin having a small portable machine that can do things like openVPN and SSH is fantastic About the only limitation is the screen size, some X apps will not resize small enough to fit on the screen. Quite often this seems to be simply down to programmers who think no one would ever want to resize that small even though the program has plenty of 'room' left to shrink. This seems to be a particular problem with some of the ham radio apps. A work around is that the oversize programs can be dragged around a larger virtual desktop by holding ALT then dragging with the mouse. It's not that big a deal but the 901 (with the bigger screen and larger HD ) is on my want list once they are shipping in quantity The state of linux ham radio software is still a bit disappointing in some areas but it is improving. The killer app for me would be a full featured, award tracking logging program that used a mySQL database back end. it would be even neater if there was an agreed, extensible SQL database format that multiple logging packages could share. Handing a log with nearly 20,000 QSO's in it is most efficiently done by a database app not a flat file format based app. This would also allow for software to share the logging data between multiple programs. For example Contest logger could the same database as the normal logger, the integrated logger in the digimodes program(s), the VHF Grid square tracking logger and the ADIF import/export program. For this to occur there needs to be a lot more dialogue and ideas sharing between developers of open source ham radio software. DJ1YFK has written a nice simple logger that ticks some of my boxes, as well as some other nifty programs http://fkurz.net/ham/ Those interested in Linux ham radio software development might also be interested in the IRC channel dedicated to this on freenode http://freenode.net/ #hamradio and for fedora users there is #fedora-hams where work is underway to include much more ham radio software support to the next fedora distribution. 73 Brendan EI6IZ RHCE #805008029731335 On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 01:35 +0100, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: > Thanks > I'd like to avoid XP, mostly because I'm a Unix professional who needs > a bit more time on Linux (I'm mostly Solaris) > > I've seen a colleagues Eee PC 701 and wondered, but I'd like to spend > less, so was thinking of the 4G (701) > > any thought's most welcome > 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- Don‘t complain. Nobody will understand. Or care. And certainly don‘t try to fix the situation yourself. It‘s dangerous. Leave it to a highly untrained, unqualified, expendable professional. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: ANN: KComm 1.1 released [OT]
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From: "Brendan Minish" <[hidden email]> > > For this to occur there needs to be a lot more dialogue and ideas > sharing between developers of open source ham radio software. > Herding cats may well be easier. You're always welcome to write the missing killer apps, GNU C++ is free :-) Simon 'stay away from Linux' HB9DRV _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: ANN: KComm 1.1 released [OT]
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On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 11:23 +0200, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote:
> > For this to occur there needs to be a lot more dialogue and ideas > > sharing between developers of open source ham radio software. > > > > Herding cats may well be easier. You're always welcome to write the missing > killer apps, GNU C++ is free :-) Simon, I don't see why it should be so hard for this to work in the area of ham radio software, Collaboration between developers mostly works very well in the Open source community. > Simon 'stay away from Linux' HB9DRV So Run BSD then.. 73 Brendan 'none too fond of windows' EI6IZ -- Don‘t complain. Nobody will understand. Or care. And certainly don‘t try to fix the situation yourself. It‘s dangerous. Leave it to a highly untrained, unqualified, expendable professional. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: ANN: KComm 1.1 released [OT]
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I think the problem with logbooks sharing a common table / column definition
is that the proliferation of logbooks started before we had internet / quick ways to communicate these ideas. At least we have ADIF for interchange. Many / most logbook authours are sick of the whole thing, trying to get us to agree to major structural changes and the testing and documentation required and all for free isn't going to happen, we would rather 'get a life' to be honest. Some of the basic needs such as someone actually creating XML definitions for modes, bands and maintaining an up-to-date countries database hasn't happened, so don't expect a common database format this decade or next. I agree about the open source community - but a lot of universities run this show, they have people and time and youth. By comparison there are relatively few ham radio software authours, mostly on the wrong side of 50 with families and dogs and boats and things. I'm glad when I know what day of the week it is! Simon Brown, HB9DRV -------------------------------------------------- From: "Brendan Minish" <[hidden email]> > > Simon, I don't see why it should be so hard for this to work in the area > of ham radio software, Collaboration between developers mostly works > very well in the Open source community. > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: ANN: KComm 1.1 released [OT]
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You can't be serious, Brendan! The main reason Linux is not more popular than it could be is that too much scarce volunteer effort is wasted doing work similar to what has already been done by someone else. So you have 100 different flavours of Linux "distros" all much the same apart from the desktop artwork, instead of one or two really good ones. You have people working independently on KDE and Gnome, instead of pooling resources and creating one killer desktop. And so on. Of course, I understand the reasons for it. If people are writing code in their own time they want to write what they want, not what someone tells them to write. That's work. I didn't consider collaborating with anyone when I wrote KComm because I had a specific idea of what program I wanted to write. I didn't want to write someone else's program. So I'm as much a part of the problem as anyone else. I still think it's a huge shame that more hams don't use the free tools to write programs for Linux. A free open source operating system developed by people doing it for personal interest seems a better choice for amateur radio than an expensive proprietary one developed by people who just want to make loads of money. If it's a matter that amateur programmers don't have the C/C++ skills then they can use Lazarus, as I have done, which is almost exactly like Delphi (and similar to the early VB, except for the language) and can create programs for Windows, Linux and Mac from the same source code.
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
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Re: ANN: KComm 1.1 released [OT]
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G4ILO wrote:
> You can't be serious, Brendan! The main reason Linux is not more popular > than it could be is that too much scarce volunteer effort is wasted doing > work similar to what has already been done by someone else. So you have 100 This is even more of a problem in the traditional commercial software model; in fact much of the software developed never goes into service at all. There is an apparent exception for really mass market products, but that is because Microsoft buy out the most successful product and create an effective monopoly (I think the EU has ruled that there is a legal monopoly in some cases). At least with open source you can see the competition early, and not develop a complete product only to throw it away because your competitor beat you to market. You can also learn from internal techniques, not just surface appearence, and, in some cases, use each others code (some licences are incompatible). The amateur radio related topic, which makes this thread on topic for the list, is amateur radio logging software. -- David Woolley "The Elecraft list is a forum for the discussion of topics related to Elecraft products and more general topics related ham radio" List Guidelines <http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm> _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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