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The letters to this list regarding FCC and ARRL notices were factually
false and have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft products except perhaps as some might choose to use such radio transmitting products to commit unjustified criminal acts. Those who have false pride in their comments can read what I write here and readily determine their factual mistakes for themselves. The reason for the FCC and ARRL Notices is factually not because of the next administration but the present one which incited a riot. IN THAT CRIMINAL OFFENSE, Radios were used unlawfully to commit Federal offenses against democracy and the Constitution. I also see the FCC notice as one asking civilians to report criminal use of Amateur and other civilian communications gear - This I will do as well as working with other law abiding hams to find, locate and document criminal use, especially against the Constitution and US Government. The reason why Washington D.C. is an armed camp is that on 1/6 We had a president incite insurrection. That President is the only one with two impeachments, both of which are more legally substantive than the two which preceded them. Those persons criminally acted to disrupt lawful congressional preceding. Many claim to have done this on behalf of the current President, failing to understand nobody is above the law and any apparent direction to violate the constitution is illegal no matter the source. That entire event was unprecedented in the USA and the responses are and will be as well. The election was not fraudulent. It was certified in each of the states, in most cases by Republican elected authorities. Over 60 cases whose lawyers claimed fraud, were thrown out by Federal judges, many of whom appointed by the current President. In several cases these judges noted there was no evidence at all and in the rest, no evidence that would show a change in the end result for that state. The Supreme Court also spoke on this matter - against the Presidents false claims. There are over 60 case transcripts, public oral opinions by the judges and supreme court, as well as the remarks of AG Barr who quit in disgust with his own administration. Frankly to blame the next administration for the FCC and ARRL notice is idiotic - they are not in power yet. That assault on the Capitol was unprecedented and THAT is what has led to the other unprecedented things. The reason is that under our constitution, nobody is above the law, including the President and those who stormed the capitol. Acting to enforce the law should not be offensive to anyone who claims to be a patriot or writing in the traditions of Amateur Radio or the ARRL. Interesting to know the false sympathies of some of you though. I encourage you to spend the reasonable efforts of citizens to go and learn what you didn't. Geoffrey Feldman W1GCF ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Why can’t we leave politics off this list?
Admins, please close this thread. Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. > On Jan 18, 2021, at 9:07 PM, Geoffrey Feldman <[hidden email]> wrote: > > The letters to this list regarding FCC and ARRL notices were factually > false and have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft products except > perhaps as some might choose to use such radio transmitting products to > commit unjustified criminal acts. Those who have false pride in their > comments can read what I write here and readily determine their factual > mistakes for themselves. > > > > The reason for the FCC and ARRL Notices is factually not because of the next > administration but the present one which incited a riot. IN THAT CRIMINAL > OFFENSE, Radios were used unlawfully to commit Federal offenses against > democracy and the Constitution. I also see the FCC notice as one asking > civilians to report criminal use of Amateur and other civilian > communications gear - This I will do as well as working with other law > abiding hams to find, locate and document criminal use, especially against > the Constitution and US Government. The reason why Washington D.C. is an > armed camp is that on 1/6 We had a president incite insurrection. That > President is the only one with two impeachments, both of which are more > legally substantive than the two which preceded them. Those persons > criminally acted to disrupt lawful congressional preceding. Many claim to > have done this on behalf of the current President, failing to understand > nobody is above the law and any apparent direction to violate the > constitution is illegal no matter the source. That entire event was > unprecedented in the USA and the responses are and will be as well. The > election was not fraudulent. It was certified in each of the states, in > most cases by Republican elected authorities. Over 60 cases whose lawyers > claimed fraud, were thrown out by Federal judges, many of whom appointed by > the current President. In several cases these judges noted there was no > evidence at all and in the rest, no evidence that would show a change in the > end result for that state. The Supreme Court also spoke on this matter - > against the Presidents false claims. There are over 60 case transcripts, > public oral opinions by the judges and supreme court, as well as the remarks > of AG Barr who quit in disgust with his own administration. > > > > Frankly to blame the next administration for the FCC and ARRL notice is > idiotic - they are not in power yet. That assault on the Capitol was > unprecedented and THAT is what has led to the other unprecedented things. > The reason is that under our constitution, nobody is above the law, > including the President and those who stormed the capitol. Acting to > enforce the law should not be offensive to anyone who claims to be a patriot > or writing in the traditions of Amateur Radio or the ARRL. Interesting to > know the false sympathies of some of you though. I encourage you to spend > the reasonable efforts of citizens to go and learn what you didn't. > > > > Geoffrey Feldman > > W1GCF > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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This is no place for political BS. I don’t care if you are right, left, or in the f’ing middle. This is a place to discuss Elecraft equipment, uses, procedures, and other at least semi- related information. NOT POLITICS. There are plenty of sites out there on the never ending internet where you can put down this or the next president and administration. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 18, 2021, at 9:14 PM, Dave <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Why can’t we leave politics off this list? > > Admins, please close this thread. > > Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. > >> On Jan 18, 2021, at 9:07 PM, Geoffrey Feldman <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> The letters to this list regarding FCC and ARRL notices were factually >> false and have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft products except >> perhaps as some might choose to use such radio transmitting products to >> commit unjustified criminal acts. Those who have false pride in their >> comments can read what I write here and readily determine their factual >> mistakes for themselves. >> >> >> >> The reason for the FCC and ARRL Notices is factually not because of the next >> administration but the present one which incited a riot. IN THAT CRIMINAL >> OFFENSE, Radios were used unlawfully to commit Federal offenses against >> democracy and the Constitution. I also see the FCC notice as one asking >> civilians to report criminal use of Amateur and other civilian >> communications gear - This I will do as well as working with other law >> abiding hams to find, locate and document criminal use, especially against >> the Constitution and US Government. The reason why Washington D.C. is an >> armed camp is that on 1/6 We had a president incite insurrection. That >> President is the only one with two impeachments, both of which are more >> legally substantive than the two which preceded them. Those persons >> criminally acted to disrupt lawful congressional preceding. Many claim to >> have done this on behalf of the current President, failing to understand >> nobody is above the law and any apparent direction to violate the >> constitution is illegal no matter the source. That entire event was >> unprecedented in the USA and the responses are and will be as well. The >> election was not fraudulent. It was certified in each of the states, in >> most cases by Republican elected authorities. Over 60 cases whose lawyers >> claimed fraud, were thrown out by Federal judges, many of whom appointed by >> the current President. In several cases these judges noted there was no >> evidence at all and in the rest, no evidence that would show a change in the >> end result for that state. The Supreme Court also spoke on this matter - >> against the Presidents false claims. There are over 60 case transcripts, >> public oral opinions by the judges and supreme court, as well as the remarks >> of AG Barr who quit in disgust with his own administration. >> >> >> >> Frankly to blame the next administration for the FCC and ARRL notice is >> idiotic - they are not in power yet. That assault on the Capitol was >> unprecedented and THAT is what has led to the other unprecedented things. >> The reason is that under our constitution, nobody is above the law, >> including the President and those who stormed the capitol. Acting to >> enforce the law should not be offensive to anyone who claims to be a patriot >> or writing in the traditions of Amateur Radio or the ARRL. Interesting to >> know the false sympathies of some of you though. I encourage you to spend >> the reasonable efforts of citizens to go and learn what you didn't. >> >> >> >> Geoffrey Feldman >> >> W1GCF >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Not only that, he is totally wrong anyway.
Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 18, 2021, at 8:36 PM, Harlan Sherriff via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Listen. > This is no place for political BS. I don’t care if you are right, left, or in the f’ing middle. This is a place to discuss Elecraft equipment, uses, procedures, and other at least semi- related information. NOT POLITICS. There are plenty of sites out there on the never ending internet where you can put down this or the next president and administration. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 18, 2021, at 9:14 PM, Dave <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Why can’t we leave politics off this list? >> >> Admins, please close this thread. >> >> Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. >> >>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 9:07 PM, Geoffrey Feldman <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> The letters to this list regarding FCC and ARRL notices were factually >>> false and have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft products except >>> perhaps as some might choose to use such radio transmitting products to >>> commit unjustified criminal acts. Those who have false pride in their >>> comments can read what I write here and readily determine their factual >>> mistakes for themselves. >>> >>> >>> >>> The reason for the FCC and ARRL Notices is factually not because of the next >>> administration but the present one which incited a riot. IN THAT CRIMINAL >>> OFFENSE, Radios were used unlawfully to commit Federal offenses against >>> democracy and the Constitution. I also see the FCC notice as one asking >>> civilians to report criminal use of Amateur and other civilian >>> communications gear - This I will do as well as working with other law >>> abiding hams to find, locate and document criminal use, especially against >>> the Constitution and US Government. The reason why Washington D.C. is an >>> armed camp is that on 1/6 We had a president incite insurrection. That >>> President is the only one with two impeachments, both of which are more >>> legally substantive than the two which preceded them. Those persons >>> criminally acted to disrupt lawful congressional preceding. Many claim to >>> have done this on behalf of the current President, failing to understand >>> nobody is above the law and any apparent direction to violate the >>> constitution is illegal no matter the source. That entire event was >>> unprecedented in the USA and the responses are and will be as well. The >>> election was not fraudulent. It was certified in each of the states, in >>> most cases by Republican elected authorities. Over 60 cases whose lawyers >>> claimed fraud, were thrown out by Federal judges, many of whom appointed by >>> the current President. In several cases these judges noted there was no >>> evidence at all and in the rest, no evidence that would show a change in the >>> end result for that state. The Supreme Court also spoke on this matter - >>> against the Presidents false claims. There are over 60 case transcripts, >>> public oral opinions by the judges and supreme court, as well as the remarks >>> of AG Barr who quit in disgust with his own administration. >>> >>> >>> >>> Frankly to blame the next administration for the FCC and ARRL notice is >>> idiotic - they are not in power yet. That assault on the Capitol was >>> unprecedented and THAT is what has led to the other unprecedented things. >>> The reason is that under our constitution, nobody is above the law, >>> including the President and those who stormed the capitol. Acting to >>> enforce the law should not be offensive to anyone who claims to be a patriot >>> or writing in the traditions of Amateur Radio or the ARRL. Interesting to >>> know the false sympathies of some of you though. I encourage you to spend >>> the reasonable efforts of citizens to go and learn what you didn't. >>> >>> >>> >>> Geoffrey Feldman >>> >>> W1GCF >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Shame on you for bring politics into the Elecraft rmail list. Democrats and Republicans and
Independents please keep political factionalism off this email list. Ham radio is fraternity of people interested in radio communications and its art. This kind of post just makes more work for the email administrators who will have to moderate all emails to keep the list on topic. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Serious thinkers need to quietly look at the meaning of "incite",
"promote", "instigate", "enable", "direct", "instruct", "Plan" and you will realize there was a plan (by someone) but no evidence of "incite" unless we are disconnected from meaning in language to achieve power. The disconnect of thought (inability to see contradictions) cannot be resolved through partisan rhetoric because there is no desire for analysis, truth and reason to a partisan, only power. Emotion prevents clear thought. That's why, for the most part, ham radio is a pleasure as it encourages reason and clear thought (although not always). If the standard of logic is that Trump incited at the capitol (the group moved in before he spoke) then all the democrats who promoted violence for 9 months as redress should be impeached or in jail. Target the wrong doers or every protest from here on out will be "incitement" and blamed for the deeds of individuals. Dangerous thought error. Bob K7VO On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 4:27 AM <[hidden email]> wrote: > Shame on you for bring politics into the Elecraft rmail list. Democrats > and Republicans and > Independents please keep political factionalism off this email list. Ham > radio is fraternity of > people interested in radio communications and its art. This kind of post > just makes more > work for the email administrators who will have to moderate all emails to > keep the list on > topic. > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email]
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Enough already. Keep your political views and beliefs off this forum. Not needed, not wanted. JimW7OUU Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S9+, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Geoffrey Feldman <[hidden email]> Date: 1/18/21 19:06 (GMT-07:00) To: [hidden email], [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Absurd remarks about FCC and ARRL notices. The letters to this list regarding FCC and ARRL notices were factuallyfalse and have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft products exceptperhaps as some might choose to use such radio transmitting products tocommit unjustified criminal acts. Those who have false pride in theircomments can read what I write here and readily determine their factualmistakes for themselves. The reason for the FCC and ARRL Notices is factually not because of the nextadministration but the present one which incited a riot. IN THAT CRIMINALOFFENSE, Radios were used unlawfully to commit Federal offenses againstdemocracy and the Constitution. I also see the FCC notice as one askingcivilians to report criminal use of Amateur and other civiliancommunications gear - This I will do as well as working with other lawabiding hams to find, locate and document criminal use, especially againstthe Constitution and US Government. The reason why Washington D.C. is anarmed camp is that on 1/6 We had a president incite insurrection. ThatPresident is the only one with two impeachments, both of which are morelegally substantive than the two which preceded them. Those personscriminally acted to disrupt lawful congressional preceding. Many claim tohave done this on behalf of the current President, failing to understandnobody is above the law and any apparent direction to violate theconstitution is illegal no matter the source. That entire event wasunprecedented in the USA and the responses are and will be as well. Theelection was not fraudulent. It was certified in each of the states, inmost cases by Republican elected authorities. Over 60 cases whose lawyersclaimed fraud, were thrown out by Federal judges, many of whom appointed bythe current President. In several cases these judges noted there was noevidence at all and in the rest, no evidence that would show a change in theend result for that state. The Supreme Court also spoke on this matter -against the Presidents false claims. There are over 60 case transcripts,public oral opinions by the judges and supreme court, as well as the remarksof AG Barr who quit in disgust with his own administration.Frankly to blame the next administration for the FCC and ARRL notice isidiotic - they are not in power yet. That assault on the Capitol wasunprecedented and THAT is what has led to the other unprecedented things.The reason is that under our constitution, nobody is above the law,including the President and those who stormed the capitol. Acting toenforce the law should not be offensive to anyone who claims to be a patriotor writing in the traditions of Amateur Radio or the ARRL. Interesting toknow the false sympathies of some of you though. I encourage you to spendthe reasonable efforts of citizens to go and learn what you didn't. Geoffrey FeldmanW1GCF______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:[hidden email] list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Thank you for your concise comments. Greatly appreciated. The last thing we need is more politics. Al N4DIY Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Note20 smartphone ________________________________ From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> on behalf of kennedyjp <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 4:37:15 PM To: Geoffrey Feldman <[hidden email]>; [hidden email] <[hidden email]>; [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Absurd remarks about FCC and ARRL notices. Enough already. Keep your political views and beliefs off this forum. Not needed, not wanted. JimW7OUU Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S9+, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Geoffrey Feldman <[hidden email]> Date: 1/18/21 19:06 (GMT-07:00) To: [hidden email], [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Absurd remarks about FCC and ARRL notices. The letters to this list regarding FCC and ARRL notices were factuallyfalse and have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft products exceptperhaps as some might choose to use such radio transmitting products tocommit unjustified criminal acts. Those who have false pride in theircomments can read what I write here and readily determine their factualmistakes for themselves. The reason for the FCC and ARRL Notices is factually not because of the nextadministration but the present one which incited a riot. IN THAT CRIMINALOFFENSE, Radios were used unlawfully to commit Federal offenses againstdemocracy and the Constitution. I also see the FCC notice as one askingcivilians to report criminal use of Amateur and other civiliancommunications g ear - This I will do as well as working with other lawabiding hams to find, locate and document criminal use, especially againstthe Constitution and US Government. The reason why Washington D.C. is anarmed camp is that on 1/6 We had a president incite insurrection. ThatPresident is the only one with two impeachments, both of which are morelegally substantive than the two which preceded them. Those personscriminally acted to disrupt lawful congressional preceding. Many claim tohave done this on behalf of the current President, failing to understandnobody is above the law and any apparent direction to violate theconstitution is illegal no matter the source. That entire event wasunprecedented in the USA and the responses are and will be as well. Theelection was not fraudulent. It was certified in each of the states, inmost cases by Republican elected authorities. Over 60 cases whose lawyersclaimed fraud, were thrown out by Federal judges, many of whom appointed bythe cur rent President. In several cases these judges noted there was noevidence at all and in the rest, no evidence that would show a change in theend result for that state. The Supreme Court also spoke on this matter -against the Presidents false claims. There are over 60 case transcripts,public oral opinions by the judges and supreme court, as well as the remarksof AG Barr who quit in disgust with his own administration.Frankly to blame the next administration for the FCC and ARRL notice isidiotic - they are not in power yet. That assault on the Capitol wasunprecedented and THAT is what has led to the other unprecedented things.The reason is that under our constitution, nobody is above the law,including the President and those who stormed the capitol. Acting toenforce the law should not be offensive to anyone who claims to be a patriotor writing in the traditions of Amateur Radio or the ARRL. Interesting toknow the false sympathies of some of you though. I encourage you t o spendthe reasonable efforts of citizens to go and learn what you didn't. Geoffrey FeldmanW1GCF______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:[hidden email] list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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My overworked business partner (WA6HHQ) is rightly trying to shut down this thread. We certainly don't want red and blue Elecraft forums.
Before he does, I'd like to slip in a final comment. The intent of my posting (yes, I started this) was to call attention to a highly unusual FCC announcement that was assumed to be of general interest. Similar postings were made to many other ham forums in the same time frame. It's clear that the message has been received loud and clear. Interpretations are hereby officially left to the reader as a [private] exercise. Thanks, Wayne N6KR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Thanks for posting this originally - I wouldn't have seen it otherwise.
The problem with political discussions - especially in the world of 24/7 news coverage and op eds - we all show how uneducated we are on the topics and are willing to believe what we are told without doing the research. The rhetoric is all too often divisive. We can all agree on how fun and fulfilling ham radio is to each of us in its own special way - let's stick to that. Hank K4HYJ -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 5:00 PM To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Absurd remarks about FCC and ARRL notices. My overworked business partner (WA6HHQ) is rightly trying to shut down this thread. We certainly don't want red and blue Elecraft forums. Before he does, I'd like to slip in a final comment. The intent of my posting (yes, I started this) was to call attention to a highly unusual FCC announcement that was assumed to be of general interest. Similar postings were made to many other ham forums in the same time frame. It's clear that the message has been received loud and clear. Interpretations are hereby officially left to the reader as a [private] exercise. Thanks, Wayne N6KR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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There's no place for anonymous posting, either. How hard is it to include
your name and/or call? Barry W2UP Elecraft mailing list wrote > Listen. > This is no place for political BS. I don’t care if you are right, left, or > in the f’ing middle. This is a place to discuss Elecraft equipment, uses, > procedures, and other at least semi- related information. NOT POLITICS. > There are plenty of sites out there on the never ending internet where you > can put down this or the next president and administration. > > Sent from my iPhone -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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There seems to be a misunderstanding of my thanking jim not geoffrey. I had
no intention of thanking or condoning political diatribe in this forum. So Geoff your response to my "thanks" is not warranted. Al N4diy On Tue, Jan 19, 2021, 6:49 PM Barry <[hidden email]> wrote: > There's no place for anonymous posting, either. How hard is it to include > your name and/or call? > > Barry W2UP > > > Elecraft mailing list wrote > > Listen. > > This is no place for political BS. I don’t care if you are right, left, > or > > in the f’ing middle. This is a place to discuss Elecraft equipment, uses, > > procedures, and other at least semi- related information. NOT POLITICS. > > There are plenty of sites out there on the never ending internet where > you > > can put down this or the next president and administration. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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When will this end?
Please! Enough! Dave wo2x Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. > On Jan 19, 2021, at 7:03 PM, Al London <[hidden email]> wrote: > > There seems to be a misunderstanding of my thanking jim not geoffrey. I had > no intention of thanking or condoning political diatribe in this forum. So > Geoff your response to my "thanks" is not warranted. > > Al > N4diy > >> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021, 6:49 PM Barry <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> There's no place for anonymous posting, either. How hard is it to include >> your name and/or call? >> >> Barry W2UP >> >> >> Elecraft mailing list wrote >>> Listen. >>> This is no place for political BS. I don’t care if you are right, left, >> or >>> in the f’ing middle. This is a place to discuss Elecraft equipment, uses, >>> procedures, and other at least semi- related information. NOT POLITICS. >>> There are plenty of sites out there on the never ending internet where >> you >>> can put down this or the next president and administration. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: Absurd remarks about FCC and ARRL notices.
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topic. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Moderator etc. *elecraft.com <http://elecraft.com>* On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 5:45 AM Robert Sands <[hidden email]> wrote: > Serious thinkers need to quietly look at the meaning of "incite", > "promote", "instigate", "enable", "direct", "instruct", "Plan" and you will > realize there was a plan (by someone) but no evidence of "incite" unless we > are disconnected from meaning in language to achieve power. The disconnect > of thought (inability to see contradictions) cannot be resolved through > partisan rhetoric because there is no desire for analysis, truth and reason > to a partisan, only power. Emotion prevents clear thought. That's why, for > the most part, ham radio is a pleasure as it encourages reason and clear > thought (although not always). If the standard of logic is that Trump > incited at the capitol (the group moved in before he spoke) then all the > democrats who promoted violence for 9 months as redress should be > impeached or in jail. Target the wrong doers or every protest from here on > out will be "incitement" and blamed for the deeds of individuals. Dangerous > thought error. > Bob > K7VO > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 4:27 AM <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Shame on you for bring politics into the Elecraft rmail list. Democrats > > and Republicans and > > Independents please keep political factionalism off this email list. Ham > > radio is fraternity of > > people interested in radio communications and its art. This kind of > post > > just makes more > > work for the email administrators who will have to moderate all emails to > > keep the list on > > topic. > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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