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Barry

Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?

Tnx
Barry W2UP

pa0pje

Re: Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?

My simple solution:
Use a decent mail client and not a third party service like Nabble.
Don W3FPR has given a good explanation on using Mozilla Thunderbird and
I second that.

72/73,
Peter

Barry schreef:

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Richard Fjeld

Re: Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?

Peter wrote: "Don W3FPR has given a good explanation on using Mozilla Thunderbird and
I second that."

This is timely for me. I have been looking for a decent email client to use on my Windows7 computer. I find Windows Live Mail hard to work with. I like Outlook Express because it is fast and efficient to use. However, it is history. (I have tons of stuff saved that I don't want to lose.) I understand Outlook only comes on Pro versions. I don't know if it will get phased out.

I have read that Mozilla is no longer supporting Thunderbird. I hate to bring this OT, but a problem is upon us. I have done some reading, and find nothing strong.

Dick, n0ce

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)
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Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?

My simple solution:
Use a decent mail client and not a third party service like Nabble.
Don W3FPR has given a good explanation on using Mozilla Thunderbird and
I second that.

72/73,
Peter

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Alan Jump

Re: Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?

Thunderbird is, indeed, actively supported. I've used it as an email
client for several years. Combined with Gmail, it's remarkably effective
at keeping the spam off my screen.

We now return to our regularly-scheduled discussion, already in progress...

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On 7/10/2013 9:04 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote:

> Peter wrote: "Don W3FPR has given a good explanation on using Mozilla Thunderbird and
> I second that."
>
> This is timely for me. I have been looking for a decent email client to use on my Windows7 computer. I find Windows Live Mail hard to work with. I like Outlook Express because it is fast and efficient to use. However, it is history. (I have tons of stuff saved that I don't want to lose.) I understand Outlook only comes on Pro versions. I don't know if it will get phased out.
>
> I have read that Mozilla is no longer supporting Thunderbird. I hate to bring this OT, but a problem is upon us. I have done some reading, and find nothing strong.
>
> Dick, n0ce
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?
>
>
> My simple solution:
> Use a decent mail client and not a third party service like Nabble.
> Don W3FPR has given a good explanation on using Mozilla Thunderbird and
> I second that.
>
> 72/73,
> Peter
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Don Allen

Re: Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?

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Yes, Mozilla officially no longer supports Thunderbird, but there are
still occasional updates, strange as it may seem. Current version is
17.0.7. It's an excellent mail client, and has a plug-in calendar and
scheduler. My preferred mail client prior to switching to Thunderbird
was Eudora... Qualcomm long ago stopped supporting it, but it's still
used by a number of power users. Although Outlook is firmly entrenched
in industry and academia, I personally dislike the program, and refuse
to use it.

Sri for the reply to the OT thread...

Don W9CW

On 7/10/2013 11:04 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote:
> Peter wrote: "Don W3FPR has given a good explanation on using Mozilla Thunderbird and
> I second that."
>
> This is timely for me. I have been looking for a decent email client to use on my Windows7 computer. I find Windows Live Mail hard to work with. I like Outlook Express because it is fast and efficient to use. However, it is history. (I have tons of stuff saved that I don't want to lose.) I understand Outlook only comes on Pro versions. I don't know if it will get phased out.
>
> I have read that Mozilla is no longer supporting Thunderbird. I hate to bring this OT, but a problem is upon us. I have done some reading, and find nothing strong.
>
> Dick, n0ce
>

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Jim Brown-10

Re: Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?

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On 7/10/2013 9:04 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote:
> I have been looking for a decent email client

I've been using Thunderbird for at least five years, and like it a lot.
I read a lot of email reflectors, and Thunderbird makes it very easy to
automatically sort each mail from each list into its own mailbox.

73, Jim K9YC
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alsopb

Re: Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?

Except you can't change fonts in XP. It just ignores changes you try to
make. This has gone on for years and apparently there is no motivation
to fix it.

73 de Brian/K3KO

On 7/10/2013 16:45, Jim Brown wrote:

> On 7/10/2013 9:04 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote:
>> I have been looking for a decent email client
>
> I've been using Thunderbird for at least five years, and like it a lot.
> I read a lot of email reflectors, and Thunderbird makes it very easy to
> automatically sort each mail from each list into its own mailbox.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?

In reply to this post by Richard Fjeld

Dick,

I am surprised to hear that.
Is there a statement from Mozilla itself (reference please) or is that
just another rumor on the internet?
Mine is up to date (thanks to Mozilla) and is more functional for my
email and calendaring (Lightning plug-in) than MS Outlook Pro.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/10/2013 12:04 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote:
> Peter wrote: "Don W3FPR has given a good explanation on using Mozilla Thunderbird and
> I second that."
>
> This is timely for me. I have been looking for a decent email client to use on my Windows7 computer. I find Windows Live Mail hard to work with. I like Outlook Express because it is fast and efficient to use. However, it is history. (I have tons of stuff saved that I don't want to lose.) I understand Outlook only comes on Pro versions. I don't know if it will get phased out.
>
> I have read that Mozilla is no longer supporting Thunderbird. I hate to bring this OT, but a problem is upon us. I have done some reading, and find nothing strong.
>
> Dick, n0ce
>

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pa0pje

Re: Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?

In reply to this post by alsopb

I can choose whatever font available on my PC in the TB settings.
I ditched Live for Thunderbird years ago for it could not spell check in
my native language and Microsoft refused to do something about it so...
Now my OS of choice for daily work is Debian Linux

And XP is nearly history too.

AND: I never heard of Mozilla stopping support of the Thunderbird
client... Mine still carries the link to the mozilla site and this is
what you read when clicking the link:
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/

Firefox
The free, non-profit browser for desktop and mobile.
Firefox OS
An open operating system for mobile devices.
Marketplace
A creation and distribution platform for apps.
Persona
A better way to sign in to websites.
Thunderbird
Safe, fast and easy email.
Webmaker
Make something amazing with the Web.

72,
Peter

Brian Alsop schreef:
> Except you can't change fonts in XP.
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pa0pje

Re: Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?

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Don,
In my view it is...

72,
Peter

Don Wilhelm schreef:
> or is that just another rumor on the internet?
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David Bunte

Re: Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?

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I just loaded Thunderbird today, on my XP machine. I was able to set
the font of my choice. I guess I don't understand the problem.

Dave - K9FN

Brian Alsop <[hidden email]> wrote:

Except you can't change fonts in XP. It just ignores changes you try to
make. This has gone on for years and apparently there is no motivation
to fix it.

73 de Brian/K3KO

On 7/10/2013 16:45, Jim Brown wrote:

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Scott Manthe-2

OT: The future of Thunderbird... (was: Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?)

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Thunderbird is not exactly dead, but doesn't exactly have a promising
future, either. From the horses mouth:
http://blog.mozilla.org/beyond-the-code/2012/07/09/about-the-future-of-thunderbird/

73,
Scott, N9AA

On 7/10/13 1:31 PM, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) wrote:
> Don,
> In my view it is...
>
> 72,
> Peter
>
> Don Wilhelm schreef:
>> or is that just another rumor on the internet?
>
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Richard Fjeld

Re: Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?

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Don,

I took me awhile to find it again. I see in this link they use the word 'developing' instead of 'supporting' as is sometimes mentioned. Here is the link; (See item 2)
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2027870/four-desktop-email-clients-that-can-improve-your-gmail-experience.html

There may be some mis-understanding going around. I get the message that mozilla is going to concentrate on Thunderbird's stability instead of developing new features. I think I will go with it.

Dick, n0ce
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Don Allen

Re: Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?

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It's not necessarily a rumor. It may have been "created" by a
misunderstanding of a statement from Mozilla in 2012. Mozilla will
maintain, and even update Thunderbird, but it no longer will allocate
the programming resources on innovating or enhancing the mail client.
Maintenance updates only...

Don W9CW

On 7/10/2013 12:31 PM, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) wrote:

> Don,
> In my view it is...
>
> 72,
> Peter
>
> Don Wilhelm schreef:
>> or is that just another rumor on the internet?
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Richard Fjeld

Re: OT: The future of Thunderbird... (was: Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?)

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Yes. Once again, this sentence makes me wary: "We have a solid plan to support Thunderbird until the second half of 2013 and are discussing how we support it beyond that date."

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Subject: [Elecraft] OT: The future of Thunderbird... (was: Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?)

Thunderbird is not exactly dead, but doesn't exactly have a promising
future, either. From the horses mouth:
http://blog.mozilla.org/beyond-the-code/2012/07/09/about-the-future-of-thunderbird/

73,
Scott, N9AA

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Phil Kane-2

Re: Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?

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On 7/10/2013 11:05 AM, Don Allen wrote:

> It's not necessarily a rumor. It may have been "created" by a
> misunderstanding of a statement from Mozilla in 2012. Mozilla will
> maintain, and even update Thunderbird, but it no longer will allocate
> the programming resources on innovating or enhancing the mail client.
> Maintenance updates only...

That's fine with me. I'm using T-Bird 17 (Win 7) and there are many
"features" that I don't need or use, including some that I didn't want
to start with.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402

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Don Wilhelm-5

Re: Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?

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Dick,

That article is over a year old, and if the upgraded (not just updated
for security) Thunderbird versions that have occurred over the past year
is any indication, they are still doing serious development work on it.
Look at the major version number - those are upgrades. Other releases
that only update the decimal part of the release number are minor
changes and bug fixes.
If you look at the Mozilla site product list, it certainly appears they
are actively continuing development of Thunderbird.

Mozilla does their support mostly through the user community for all
their products (like most other open source products) - they do not have
staff to answer emails or phone calls, but the support is quite good
through the user community. Another advantage of Thunderbird is that it
is multi-platform so if you change your OS, you can transport your email
easily.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/10/2013 1:55 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote:
> Don,
> I took me awhile to find it again. I see in this link they use the
> word 'developing' instead of 'supporting' as is sometimes mentioned.
> Here is the link; (See item 2)
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2027870/four-desktop-email-clients-that-can-improve-your-gmail-experience.html
> There may be some mis-understanding going around. I get the message
> that mozilla is going to concentrate on Thunderbird's stability
> instead of developing new features. I think I will go with it.
> Dick, n0ce

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Jim Low man

Re: Any way to block the spammers who discovered Nabble recently?

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I agree. I've been using Thunderbird through many versions; probably
longer than five years.

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 7/10/2013 9:45 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
> On 7/10/2013 9:04 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote:
>> I have been looking for a decent email client
>
> I've been using Thunderbird for at least five years, and like it a
> lot. I read a lot of email reflectors, and Thunderbird makes it very
> easy to automatically sort each mail from each list into its own mailbox.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC

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Jim Low man

Re: OT: The future of Thunderbird...

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Well, it's stable enough for me, and has all of the features that I
need, plus many more.
I'm currently running V17.0.7 under Windows 7.

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 7/10/2013 10:50 AM, Scott Manthe wrote:
> Thunderbird is not exactly dead, but doesn't exactly have a promising
> future, either. From the horses mouth:
> http://blog.mozilla.org/beyond-the-code/2012/07/09/about-the-future-of-thunderbird/
>
> 73,
> Scott, N9AA

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Kevin Luxford

Re: OT: The future of Thunderbird...

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Guys,

A good tool to sort out the wheat from the chaff is Mailwasher from
Firetrust. It finds all the pump and dump scam emails and puts them
into "Junk Mail" leaving me to process mostly good stuff. It, so far,
is not so good at picking up those emails ostensibly from list members,
but which in reality are from hackers who want readers to go to dodgy
URLs contained in the first line of the body of the email. But
everybody has changed their passwords in AOL, Hotmail, Gmail and the
like, haven't they?

73
Kevin
VK3DAP / ZL2DAP

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