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Richard-6

Apples and Pomegranates

For the casual rawchewer and DXer, how does the IC-7300 compare to the FTDX10?

Think in terms of using them with a KPA500 and a KAT500.

Richard Kunc ~ W4KBX
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Lyn WØLEN

Re: Apples and Pomegranates

Richard -

I am using the IC-7300 / KPA500 / KAT500 combination every day, and I love
it.

Most of my ragchewing is SSB, but I am using CW more often these days. The
digital modes, especially FT8, FT4, JS8 etc. probably account for 75% of my
operation. Of those, JS8 is the ragchew choice. I also use it extensively
for EmComm - principally with digital modes such as Winlink (P2P).

The 7300 is a natural for digital modes, and requires only a cable to
interface. The menu structure is a joy ... very logical and easy to
optimize (tweak) settings for any specific mode and save to SD card for
immediate recall. For example, I have arrived at very specific settings for
CW by researching what other, more active CWers, are doing and find that I
am able to carry on a good QSO with stations I couldn't even hear before and
a bandwidth that knocks out the ham down the street.

Operation with the Elecraft "twins" for me is nearly fully automatic. In my
shack, if I am operating digital modes, I am facing 90 degrees away from the
rig, amp, tuner. But I don't even need to see them. The amp and tuner
track the 7300 perfectly except that the tuner does not update until it
receives some RF.

I can't say anything authoritative about Yaesu, except that the only Yaesu I
currently own is their top-of-the-line FTM-400XDR mobile - and the menu
structure bears no semblance to operating logic. For me anyway, Icom just
makes more sense.

I regularly get unsolicited reports of "absolutely perfect audio" which is
nice too.

73
Lyn, W0LEN

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Subject: [Elecraft] Apples and Pomegranates

For the casual rawchewer and DXer, how does the IC-7300 compare to the
FTDX10?

Think in terms of using them with a KPA500 and a KAT500.

Richard Kunc ~ W4KBX
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Lyn WØLEN

Re: Apples and Pomegranates

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Richard -

I am using the IC-7300 / KPA500 / KAT500 combination every day, and I love
it.

Most of my ragchewing is SSB, but I am using CW more often these days. The
digital modes, especially FT8, FT4, JS8 etc. probably account for 75% of my
operation. Of those, JS8 is the ragchew choice. I also use it extensively
for EmComm - principally with digital modes such as Winlink (P2P).

The 7300 is a natural for digital modes, and requires only a cable to
interface. The menu structure is a joy ... very logical and easy to
optimize (tweak) settings for any specific mode and save to SD card for
immediate recall. For example, I have arrived at very specific settings for
CW by researching what other, more active CWers, are doing and find that I
am able to carry on a good QSO with stations I couldn't even hear before and
a bandwidth that knocks out the ham down the street.

Operation with the Elecraft "twins" for me is nearly fully automatic. In my
shack, if I am operating digital modes, I am facing 90 degrees away from the
rig, amp, tuner. But I don't even need to see them. The amp and tuner
track the 7300 perfectly except that the tuner does not update until it
receives some RF.

I can't say anything authoritative about Yaesu, except that the only Yaesu I
currently own is their top-of-the-line FTM-400XDR mobile - and the menu
structure bears no semblance to operating logic. For me anyway, Icom just
makes more sense.

I regularly get unsolicited reports of "absolutely perfect audio" which is
nice too.

73
Lyn, W0LEN

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Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2021 5:36 PM
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Subject: [Elecraft] Apples and Pomegranates

For the casual rawchewer and DXer, how does the IC-7300 compare to the
FTDX10?

Think in terms of using them with a KPA500 and a KAT500.

Richard Kunc ~ W4KBX
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NJ8M

Re: Apples and Pomegranates

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Lyn,

You have the exact rig setup that I generally recommend others to buy that
enjoy rag chewing, some ssb net work and just general operating. One of the
Problems with the 7300 is generally not the radio, it is the operator. The
7300 has a pretty hot front end and using Attenuation well will make that
radio shine. It has a really good DSP but you have to get into the menus to
make it sing. Maybe someday there will be a CIV in port to make the 7300
really sing with the KPA500/kat500. The KPA 1500 has a CIV port and works
well with a 7300. Yes, the audio of the 7300 is great. I do not use full
breakin because I don't enjoy the constant hash/noise in the headphones. My
general setting is semi with 30 to 50 msec delay.

Essentially the KTA/KAP500 makes most any rig into a 500 watt
transceiver---fully automatic. Once the cables are set up, the Kat/kpa
detects the freq and does the band switching. Setting up the KAT for the
frequencies before turning on the amp, once this is done the system is bomb
proof simple operation. I am sure you are enjoying it.

73, Morgan NJ8M

BS + MS + $2.98 = COFFEE
Real Life Experience = Priceless, says the man who set his back yard on
fire with a breadboard tuner loading a 160 meter inverted L with 1000
watts. LOL

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 7:13 AM Lyn Norstad <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Richard -
>
> I am using the IC-7300 / KPA500 / KAT500 combination every day, and I love
> it.
>
> Most of my ragchewing is SSB, but I am using CW more often these days. The
> digital modes, especially FT8, FT4, JS8 etc. probably account for 75% of my
> operation. Of those, JS8 is the ragchew choice. I also use it extensively
> for EmComm - principally with digital modes such as Winlink (P2P).
>
> The 7300 is a natural for digital modes, and requires only a cable to
> interface. The menu structure is a joy ... very logical and easy to
> optimize (tweak) settings for any specific mode and save to SD card for
> immediate recall. For example, I have arrived at very specific settings
> for
> CW by researching what other, more active CWers, are doing and find that I
> am able to carry on a good QSO with stations I couldn't even hear before
> and
> a bandwidth that knocks out the ham down the street.
>
> Operation with the Elecraft "twins" for me is nearly fully automatic. In
> my
> shack, if I am operating digital modes, I am facing 90 degrees away from
> the
> rig, amp, tuner. But I don't even need to see them. The amp and tuner
> track the 7300 perfectly except that the tuner does not update until it
> receives some RF.
>
> I can't say anything authoritative about Yaesu, except that the only Yaesu
> I
> currently own is their top-of-the-line FTM-400XDR mobile - and the menu
> structure bears no semblance to operating logic. For me anyway, Icom just
> makes more sense.
>
> I regularly get unsolicited reports of "absolutely perfect audio" which is
> nice too.
>
> 73
> Lyn, W0LEN
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Richard
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2021 5:36 PM
> To: Elecraft
> Subject: [Elecraft] Apples and Pomegranates
>
> For the casual rawchewer and DXer, how does the IC-7300 compare to the
> FTDX10?
>
> Think in terms of using them with a KPA500 and a KAT500.
>
> Richard Kunc ~ W4KBX
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Rajiv Dewan-2

Re: Apples and Pomegranates

After my K3 broke last fall, I bought a IC7300 the week before CQWW CW so that I could be on the air. I set it up with KAT500/KPA500 the way it is recommended by Elecraft. Using a tuner cable from IC7300 to power and provide key information to KAT500.

First a word about my operating style - I like to operate with the filters open unless I have QRM problems. Even while contesting, the narrowest filter I tend to use is 500Hz.

Before the contest started, I loved the sound from the IC7300. It had the cleanness that I associate with SDR radios - Mercury, Anan, Hermes, etc. From prior usage of direct conversion SDRs I knew to expect ADC overload and how to deal with it using attenuation.

After the contest started, the IC7300 was trash. It just could not deal with the wall to wall signals. Tons of artifacts, AGC pumping. I tried narrower filters, etc. Absolutely bad. I had never experienced anything like this on the K3.

It sure incentivized me to fix the K3, which I did and sold the IC7300 in January. The good news about the 7300 is that the demand is so robust that I only lost a little in the purchase and resale.

Raj, N2RD

> On Jun 9, 2021, at 8:26 AM, Morgan Bailey <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Lyn,
>
> You have the exact rig setup that I generally recommend others to buy that
> enjoy rag chewing, some ssb net work and just general operating. One of the
> Problems with the 7300 is generally not the radio, it is the operator. The
> 7300 has a pretty hot front end and using Attenuation well will make that
> radio shine. It has a really good DSP but you have to get into the menus to
> make it sing. Maybe someday there will be a CIV in port to make the 7300
> really sing with the KPA500/kat500. The KPA 1500 has a CIV port and works
> well with a 7300. Yes, the audio of the 7300 is great. I do not use full
> breakin because I don't enjoy the constant hash/noise in the headphones. My
> general setting is semi with 30 to 50 msec delay.
>
> Essentially the KTA/KAP500 makes most any rig into a 500 watt
> transceiver---fully automatic. Once the cables are set up, the Kat/kpa
> detects the freq and does the band switching. Setting up the KAT for the
> frequencies before turning on the amp, once this is done the system is bomb
> proof simple operation. I am sure you are enjoying it.
>
> 73, Morgan NJ8M
>
> BS + MS + $2.98 = COFFEE
> Real Life Experience = Priceless, says the man who set his back yard on
> fire with a breadboard tuner loading a 160 meter inverted L with 1000
> watts. LOL
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 7:13 AM Lyn Norstad <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>> Richard -
>>
>> I am using the IC-7300 / KPA500 / KAT500 combination every day, and I love
>> it.
>>
>> Most of my ragchewing is SSB, but I am using CW more often these days. The
>> digital modes, especially FT8, FT4, JS8 etc. probably account for 75% of my
>> operation. Of those, JS8 is the ragchew choice. I also use it extensively
>> for EmComm - principally with digital modes such as Winlink (P2P).
>>
>> The 7300 is a natural for digital modes, and requires only a cable to
>> interface. The menu structure is a joy ... very logical and easy to
>> optimize (tweak) settings for any specific mode and save to SD card for
>> immediate recall. For example, I have arrived at very specific settings
>> for
>> CW by researching what other, more active CWers, are doing and find that I
>> am able to carry on a good QSO with stations I couldn't even hear before
>> and
>> a bandwidth that knocks out the ham down the street.
>>
>> Operation with the Elecraft "twins" for me is nearly fully automatic. In
>> my
>> shack, if I am operating digital modes, I am facing 90 degrees away from
>> the
>> rig, amp, tuner. But I don't even need to see them. The amp and tuner
>> track the 7300 perfectly except that the tuner does not update until it
>> receives some RF.
>>
>> I can't say anything authoritative about Yaesu, except that the only Yaesu
>> I
>> currently own is their top-of-the-line FTM-400XDR mobile - and the menu
>> structure bears no semblance to operating logic. For me anyway, Icom just
>> makes more sense.
>>
>> I regularly get unsolicited reports of "absolutely perfect audio" which is
>> nice too.
>>
>> 73
>> Lyn, W0LEN
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Richard
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2021 5:36 PM
>> To: Elecraft
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Apples and Pomegranates
>>
>> For the casual rawchewer and DXer, how does the IC-7300 compare to the
>> FTDX10?
>>
>> Think in terms of using them with a KPA500 and a KAT500.
>>
>> Richard Kunc ~ W4KBX
>> ______________________________________________________________
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