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I'm seeing some unexpected audio artifacts when using DATA A mode with the
latest production firmware on my KX3, on all bands. This is something I observe when the PBT BW is set all the way wide (4KHz) and FC is centered. In DATA mode, there's an audio drop-off between 200 and 325 Hz, with an almost completely dead audio "hole" between 250 and 300 Hz. Then there's some additional noise between 350 and 500 Hz. If I switch to USB mode (with no EQ or audio effects applied, naturally), all of these artifacts go away, and it's perfectly smooth across the spectrum. No drop-off, no noise. Pictures of the waterfalls for comparison here: http://imgur.com/a/AjHu4 Am I doing something wrong, or is there something I should check? I've taken the usual steps, but it's plausible I've missed something. Nick -- *N6OL* Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not worth supporting. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Jörg in the Elecraft KX3 group on Facebook had an interesting observation:
with WJST's waterfall, if the "flatten" mode is on, it produces some unusual artifacts in the presence of sharp spectrum drop-offs, and indeed if I turn off the "flatten" feature and manually set the zero point for the waterfall, the artifacts go away. It's still an open question as to why the data-a mode has a steep drop-off at 400Hz when the PBT settings on the rig would seem to indicate otherwise, and the same drop-off isn't there in USB mode. I see searching on "400 Hz" that GM4JJJ had the same question here on the last back in July 2015, but never really got an answer. I basically have the same question as this one: https://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@.../msg183837.html Nick On 2 January 2017 at 12:06, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: > I'm seeing some unexpected audio artifacts when using DATA A mode with the > latest production firmware on my KX3, on all bands. This is something I > observe when the PBT BW is set all the way wide (4KHz) and FC is centered. > > In DATA mode, there's an audio drop-off between 200 and 325 Hz, with an > almost completely dead audio "hole" between 250 and 300 Hz. Then there's > some additional noise between 350 and 500 Hz. > > If I switch to USB mode (with no EQ or audio effects applied, naturally), > all of these artifacts go away, and it's perfectly smooth across the > spectrum. No drop-off, no noise. > > Pictures of the waterfalls for comparison here: http://imgur.com/a/AjHu4 > > Am I doing something wrong, or is there something I should check? I've > taken the usual steps, but it's plausible I've missed something. > > Nick > > -- > *N6OL* > Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make > it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not > worth supporting. > -- *N6OL* Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not worth supporting. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Back when I was playing with SDR's I would notice the same thing (Deep nulls)
Sometimes resetting the software (or turning the rig on and off again) would cure it. Something to try From: Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> To: elecraft <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Audio artifacts in DATA A mode with KX3 Jörg in the Elecraft KX3 group on Facebook had an interesting observation: with WJST's waterfall, if the "flatten" mode is on, it produces some unusual artifacts in the presence of sharp spectrum drop-offs, and indeed if I turn off the "flatten" feature and manually set the zero point for the waterfall, the artifacts go away. It's still an open question as to why the data-a mode has a steep drop-off at 400Hz when the PBT settings on the rig would seem to indicate otherwise, and the same drop-off isn't there in USB mode. I see searching on "400 Hz" that GM4JJJ had the same question here on the last back in July 2015, but never really got an answer. I basically have the same question as this one: https://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@.../msg183837.html Nick On 2 January 2017 at 12:06, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: > I'm seeing some unexpected audio artifacts when using DATA A mode with the > latest production firmware on my KX3, on all bands. This is something I > observe when the PBT BW is set all the way wide (4KHz) and FC is centered. > > In DATA mode, there's an audio drop-off between 200 and 325 Hz, with an > almost completely dead audio "hole" between 250 and 300 Hz. Then there's > some additional noise between 350 and 500 Hz. > > If I switch to USB mode (with no EQ or audio effects applied, naturally), > all of these artifacts go away, and it's perfectly smooth across the > spectrum. No drop-off, no noise. > > Pictures of the waterfalls for comparison here: http://imgur.com/a/AjHu4 > > Am I doing something wrong, or is there something I should check? I've > taken the usual steps, but it's plausible I've missed something. > > Nick > > -- > *N6OL* > Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make > it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not > worth supporting. > -- *N6OL* Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not worth supporting. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Thank you for bringing this up. I never did get a satisfactory explanation, I contacted support too but that didn't get me anywhere either, I don't think they understood my question, which is quite simple really, why can't we get the same bandwidth in Data mode as in SSB mode? I think it's a simple oversight, but nobody seemed interested in acknowledging it or fixing it. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 2 Jan 2017, at 23:54, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Jörg in the Elecraft KX3 group on Facebook had an interesting observation: > with WJST's waterfall, if the "flatten" mode is on, it produces some > unusual artifacts in the presence of sharp spectrum drop-offs, and indeed > if I turn off the "flatten" feature and manually set the zero point for the > waterfall, the artifacts go away. > > It's still an open question as to why the data-a mode has a steep drop-off > at 400Hz when the PBT settings on the rig would seem to indicate otherwise, > and the same drop-off isn't there in USB mode. > > I see searching on "400 Hz" that GM4JJJ had the same question here on the > last back in July 2015, but never really got an answer. I basically have > the same question as this one: > https://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@.../msg183837.html > > Nick > > >> On 2 January 2017 at 12:06, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> I'm seeing some unexpected audio artifacts when using DATA A mode with the >> latest production firmware on my KX3, on all bands. This is something I >> observe when the PBT BW is set all the way wide (4KHz) and FC is centered. >> >> In DATA mode, there's an audio drop-off between 200 and 325 Hz, with an >> almost completely dead audio "hole" between 250 and 300 Hz. Then there's >> some additional noise between 350 and 500 Hz. >> >> If I switch to USB mode (with no EQ or audio effects applied, naturally), >> all of these artifacts go away, and it's perfectly smooth across the >> spectrum. No drop-off, no noise. >> >> Pictures of the waterfalls for comparison here: http://imgur.com/a/AjHu4 >> >> Am I doing something wrong, or is there something I should check? I've >> taken the usual steps, but it's plausible I've missed something. >> >> Nick >> >> -- >> *N6OL* >> Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make >> it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not >> worth supporting. >> > > > > -- > *N6OL* > Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make it > real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not > worth supporting. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Harry,
This isn't a switch it on and off again problem I am afraid. It is simply that the KX3 Data Mode is restricted in bandwidth at the low end, unlike the SSB mode on the same radio. Bizarre but true. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 3 Jan 2017, at 00:00, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Back when I was playing with SDR's I would notice the same thing (Deep nulls) > Sometimes resetting the software (or turning the rig on and off again) would cure it. > > Something to try > > > > > From: Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> > To: elecraft <[hidden email]> > Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 6:54 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Audio artifacts in DATA A mode with KX3 > > Jörg in the Elecraft KX3 group on Facebook had an interesting observation: > with WJST's waterfall, if the "flatten" mode is on, it produces some > unusual artifacts in the presence of sharp spectrum drop-offs, and indeed > if I turn off the "flatten" feature and manually set the zero point for the > waterfall, the artifacts go away. > > It's still an open question as to why the data-a mode has a steep drop-off > at 400Hz when the PBT settings on the rig would seem to indicate otherwise, > and the same drop-off isn't there in USB mode. > > I see searching on "400 Hz" that GM4JJJ had the same question here on the > last back in July 2015, but never really got an answer. I basically have > the same question as this one: > https://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@.../msg183837.html > > Nick > > >> On 2 January 2017 at 12:06, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> I'm seeing some unexpected audio artifacts when using DATA A mode with the >> latest production firmware on my KX3, on all bands. This is something I >> observe when the PBT BW is set all the way wide (4KHz) and FC is centered. >> >> In DATA mode, there's an audio drop-off between 200 and 325 Hz, with an >> almost completely dead audio "hole" between 250 and 300 Hz. Then there's >> some additional noise between 350 and 500 Hz. >> >> If I switch to USB mode (with no EQ or audio effects applied, naturally), >> all of these artifacts go away, and it's perfectly smooth across the >> spectrum. No drop-off, no noise. >> >> Pictures of the waterfalls for comparison here: http://imgur.com/a/AjHu4 >> >> Am I doing something wrong, or is there something I should check? I've >> taken the usual steps, but it's plausible I've missed something. >> >> Nick >> >> -- >> *N6OL* >> Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make >> it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not >> worth supporting. >> > > > > -- > *N6OL* > Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make it > real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not > worth supporting. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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It was worth a shot, l permanently loaned my kx3 to my son , else I'd test it here.
-------- Original message -------- From: David Anderson <[hidden email]> Date: 2017-01-03 3:20 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Harry Yingst <[hidden email]> Cc: Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]>, elecraft <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Audio artifacts in DATA A mode with KX3 Harry, This isn't a switch it on and off again problem I am afraid. It is simply that the KX3 Data Mode is restricted in bandwidth at the low end, unlike the SSB mode on the same radio. Bizarre but true. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 3 Jan 2017, at 00:00, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Back when I was playing with SDR's I would notice the same thing (Deep nulls) > Sometimes resetting the software (or turning the rig on and off again) would cure it. > > Something to try > > > > > From: Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> > To: elecraft <[hidden email]> > Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 6:54 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Audio artifacts in DATA A mode with KX3 > > Jörg in the Elecraft KX3 group on Facebook had an interesting observation: > with WJST's waterfall, if the "flatten" mode is on, it produces some > unusual artifacts in the presence of sharp spectrum drop-offs, and indeed > if I turn off the "flatten" feature and manually set the zero point for the > waterfall, the artifacts go away. > > It's still an open question as to why the data-a mode has a steep drop-off > at 400Hz when the PBT settings on the rig would seem to indicate otherwise, > and the same drop-off isn't there in USB mode. > > I see searching on "400 Hz" that GM4JJJ had the same question here on the > last back in July 2015, but never really got an answer. I basically have > the same question as this one: > https://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@.../msg183837.html > > Nick > > >> On 2 January 2017 at 12:06, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> I'm seeing some unexpected audio artifacts when using DATA A mode with the >> latest production firmware on my KX3, on all bands. This is something I >> observe when the PBT BW is set all the way wide (4KHz) and FC is centered. >> >> In DATA mode, there's an audio drop-off between 200 and 325 Hz, with an >> almost completely dead audio "hole" between 250 and 300 Hz. Then there's >> some additional noise between 350 and 500 Hz. >> >> If I switch to USB mode (with no EQ or audio effects applied, naturally), >> all of these artifacts go away, and it's perfectly smooth across the >> spectrum. No drop-off, no noise. >> >> Pictures of the waterfalls for comparison here: http://imgur.com/a/AjHu4 >> >> Am I doing something wrong, or is there something I should check? I've >> taken the usual steps, but it's plausible I've missed something. >> >> Nick >> >> -- >> *N6OL* >> Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make >> it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not >> worth supporting. >> > > > > -- > *N6OL* > Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make it > real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not > worth supporting. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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This is on the KX3 firmware list. I'll move it up a notch.
Wayne N6KR On Jan 3, 2017, at 12:16 AM, David Anderson via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: > Nick, > > Thank you for bringing this up. > > I never did get a satisfactory explanation, I contacted support too but that didn't get me anywhere either, I don't think they understood my question, which is quite simple really, why can't we get the same bandwidth in Data mode as in SSB mode? I think it's a simple oversight, but nobody seemed interested in acknowledging it or fixing it. > > > 73 from David GM4JJJ > >> On 2 Jan 2017, at 23:54, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Jörg in the Elecraft KX3 group on Facebook had an interesting observation: >> with WJST's waterfall, if the "flatten" mode is on, it produces some >> unusual artifacts in the presence of sharp spectrum drop-offs, and indeed >> if I turn off the "flatten" feature and manually set the zero point for the >> waterfall, the artifacts go away. >> >> It's still an open question as to why the data-a mode has a steep drop-off >> at 400Hz when the PBT settings on the rig would seem to indicate otherwise, >> and the same drop-off isn't there in USB mode. >> >> I see searching on "400 Hz" that GM4JJJ had the same question here on the >> last back in July 2015, but never really got an answer. I basically have >> the same question as this one: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@.../msg183837.html >> >> Nick >> >> >>> On 2 January 2017 at 12:06, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> I'm seeing some unexpected audio artifacts when using DATA A mode with the >>> latest production firmware on my KX3, on all bands. This is something I >>> observe when the PBT BW is set all the way wide (4KHz) and FC is centered. >>> >>> In DATA mode, there's an audio drop-off between 200 and 325 Hz, with an >>> almost completely dead audio "hole" between 250 and 300 Hz. Then there's >>> some additional noise between 350 and 500 Hz. >>> >>> If I switch to USB mode (with no EQ or audio effects applied, naturally), >>> all of these artifacts go away, and it's perfectly smooth across the >>> spectrum. No drop-off, no noise. >>> >>> Pictures of the waterfalls for comparison here: http://imgur.com/a/AjHu4 >>> >>> Am I doing something wrong, or is there something I should check? I've >>> taken the usual steps, but it's plausible I've missed something. >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> -- >>> *N6OL* >>> Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make >>> it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not >>> worth supporting. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *N6OL* >> Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make it >> real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not >> worth supporting. >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Thank you, Wayne! At least we know we're not crazy :-)
Nick / N6OL On 3 January 2017 at 13:45, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote: > This is on the KX3 firmware list. I'll move it up a notch. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > On Jan 3, 2017, at 12:16 AM, David Anderson via Elecraft < > [hidden email]> wrote: > > > Nick, > > > > Thank you for bringing this up. > > > > I never did get a satisfactory explanation, I contacted support too but > that didn't get me anywhere either, I don't think they understood my > question, which is quite simple really, why can't we get the same bandwidth > in Data mode as in SSB mode? I think it's a simple oversight, but nobody > seemed interested in acknowledging it or fixing it. > > > > > > 73 from David GM4JJJ > > > >> On 2 Jan 2017, at 23:54, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> > >> Jörg in the Elecraft KX3 group on Facebook had an interesting > observation: > >> with WJST's waterfall, if the "flatten" mode is on, it produces some > >> unusual artifacts in the presence of sharp spectrum drop-offs, and > indeed > >> if I turn off the "flatten" feature and manually set the zero point for > the > >> waterfall, the artifacts go away. > >> > >> It's still an open question as to why the data-a mode has a steep > drop-off > >> at 400Hz when the PBT settings on the rig would seem to indicate > otherwise, > >> and the same drop-off isn't there in USB mode. > >> > >> I see searching on "400 Hz" that GM4JJJ had the same question here on > the > >> last back in July 2015, but never really got an answer. I basically > have > >> the same question as this one: > >> https://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@.../msg183837.html > >> > >> Nick > >> > >> > >>> On 2 January 2017 at 12:06, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: > >>> > >>> I'm seeing some unexpected audio artifacts when using DATA A mode with > the > >>> latest production firmware on my KX3, on all bands. This is something > I > >>> observe when the PBT BW is set all the way wide (4KHz) and FC is > centered. > >>> > >>> In DATA mode, there's an audio drop-off between 200 and 325 Hz, with an > >>> almost completely dead audio "hole" between 250 and 300 Hz. Then > there's > >>> some additional noise between 350 and 500 Hz. > >>> > >>> If I switch to USB mode (with no EQ or audio effects applied, > naturally), > >>> all of these artifacts go away, and it's perfectly smooth across the > >>> spectrum. No drop-off, no noise. > >>> > >>> Pictures of the waterfalls for comparison here: > http://imgur.com/a/AjHu4 > >>> > >>> Am I doing something wrong, or is there something I should check? I've > >>> taken the usual steps, but it's plausible I've missed something. > >>> > >>> Nick > >>> > >>> -- > >>> *N6OL* > >>> Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't > make > >>> it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position > is not > >>> worth supporting. > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> *N6OL* > >> Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't > make it > >> real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not > >> worth supporting. > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > -- *N6OL* Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not worth supporting. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Many thanks and a Happy New Year to all!
73 from David GM4JJJ > On 3 Jan 2017, at 21:46, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Thank you, Wayne! At least we know we're not crazy :-) > > Nick / N6OL > >> On 3 January 2017 at 13:45, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote: >> This is on the KX3 firmware list. I'll move it up a notch. >> >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> >> On Jan 3, 2017, at 12:16 AM, David Anderson via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> > Nick, >> > >> > Thank you for bringing this up. >> > >> > I never did get a satisfactory explanation, I contacted support too but that didn't get me anywhere either, I don't think they understood my question, which is quite simple really, why can't we get the same bandwidth in Data mode as in SSB mode? I think it's a simple oversight, but nobody seemed interested in acknowledging it or fixing it. >> > >> > >> > 73 from David GM4JJJ >> > >> >> On 2 Jan 2017, at 23:54, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Jörg in the Elecraft KX3 group on Facebook had an interesting observation: >> >> with WJST's waterfall, if the "flatten" mode is on, it produces some >> >> unusual artifacts in the presence of sharp spectrum drop-offs, and indeed >> >> if I turn off the "flatten" feature and manually set the zero point for the >> >> waterfall, the artifacts go away. >> >> >> >> It's still an open question as to why the data-a mode has a steep drop-off >> >> at 400Hz when the PBT settings on the rig would seem to indicate otherwise, >> >> and the same drop-off isn't there in USB mode. >> >> >> >> I see searching on "400 Hz" that GM4JJJ had the same question here on the >> >> last back in July 2015, but never really got an answer. I basically have >> >> the same question as this one: >> >> https://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@.../msg183837.html >> >> >> >> Nick >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 2 January 2017 at 12:06, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I'm seeing some unexpected audio artifacts when using DATA A mode with the >> >>> latest production firmware on my KX3, on all bands. This is something I >> >>> observe when the PBT BW is set all the way wide (4KHz) and FC is centered. >> >>> >> >>> In DATA mode, there's an audio drop-off between 200 and 325 Hz, with an >> >>> almost completely dead audio "hole" between 250 and 300 Hz. Then there's >> >>> some additional noise between 350 and 500 Hz. >> >>> >> >>> If I switch to USB mode (with no EQ or audio effects applied, naturally), >> >>> all of these artifacts go away, and it's perfectly smooth across the >> >>> spectrum. No drop-off, no noise. >> >>> >> >>> Pictures of the waterfalls for comparison here: http://imgur.com/a/AjHu4 >> >>> >> >>> Am I doing something wrong, or is there something I should check? I've >> >>> taken the usual steps, but it's plausible I've missed something. >> >>> >> >>> Nick >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> *N6OL* >> >>> Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make >> >>> it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not >> >>> worth supporting. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> *N6OL* >> >> Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make it >> >> real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not >> >> worth supporting. >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> >> Elecraft mailing list >> >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> > >> > ______________________________________________________________ >> > Elecraft mailing list >> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> > Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> > >> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > Message delivered to [hidden email] >> > > > > -- > N6OL > Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not worth supporting. Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I've noticed the same kind of issue at times, also. I've never known to what to attribute it to. To be far, it's not just Elecraft rigs. I think it may be software glitches rather than transceiver problems.
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Help me here.... I don't see any connection. You could still be crazy and experiencing the Audio Artifacts as well. :) -- Thanks Jon KG6VDW ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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