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Audio artifacts in DATA A mode with KX3

Nicklas Johnson
I'm seeing some unexpected audio artifacts when using DATA A mode with the
latest production firmware on my KX3, on all bands.  This is something I
observe when the PBT BW is set all the way wide (4KHz) and FC is centered.

In DATA mode, there's an audio drop-off between 200 and 325 Hz, with an
almost completely dead audio "hole" between 250 and 300 Hz.  Then there's
some additional noise between 350 and 500 Hz.

If I switch to USB mode (with no EQ or audio effects applied, naturally),
all of these artifacts go away, and it's perfectly smooth across the
spectrum.  No drop-off, no noise.

Pictures of the waterfalls for comparison here: http://imgur.com/a/AjHu4

Am I doing something wrong, or is there something I should check?  I've
taken the usual steps, but it's plausible I've missed something.

​   Nick​

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Re: Audio artifacts in DATA A mode with KX3

Nicklas Johnson
Jörg in the Elecraft KX3 group on Facebook had an interesting observation:
with WJST's waterfall, if the "flatten" mode is on, it produces some
unusual artifacts in the presence of sharp spectrum drop-offs, and indeed
if I turn off the "flatten" feature and manually set the zero point for the
waterfall, the artifacts go away.

It's still an open question as to why the data-a mode has a steep drop-off
at 400Hz when the PBT settings on the rig would seem to indicate otherwise,
and the same drop-off isn't there in USB mode.

I see searching on "400 Hz" that GM4JJJ had the same question here on the
last back in July 2015, but never really got an answer.  I basically have
the same question as this one:
https://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@.../msg183837.html

   Nick


On 2 January 2017 at 12:06, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'm seeing some unexpected audio artifacts when using DATA A mode with the
> latest production firmware on my KX3, on all bands.  This is something I
> observe when the PBT BW is set all the way wide (4KHz) and FC is centered.
>
> In DATA mode, there's an audio drop-off between 200 and 325 Hz, with an
> almost completely dead audio "hole" between 250 and 300 Hz.  Then there's
> some additional noise between 350 and 500 Hz.
>
> If I switch to USB mode (with no EQ or audio effects applied, naturally),
> all of these artifacts go away, and it's perfectly smooth across the
> spectrum.  No drop-off, no noise.
>
> Pictures of the waterfalls for comparison here: http://imgur.com/a/AjHu4
>
> Am I doing something wrong, or is there something I should check?  I've
> taken the usual steps, but it's plausible I've missed something.
>
> ​   Nick​
>
> --
> *N6OL*
> Saying something doesn't make it true.  Belief in something doesn't make
> it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not
> worth supporting.
>



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Re: Audio artifacts in DATA A mode with KX3

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Back when I was playing with SDR's I would notice the same thing (Deep nulls)
Sometimes resetting the software (or turning the rig on and off again) would cure it.

Something to try




      From: Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]>
 To: elecraft <[hidden email]>
 Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 6:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Audio artifacts in DATA A mode with KX3
   
Jörg in the Elecraft KX3 group on Facebook had an interesting observation:
with WJST's waterfall, if the "flatten" mode is on, it produces some
unusual artifacts in the presence of sharp spectrum drop-offs, and indeed
if I turn off the "flatten" feature and manually set the zero point for the
waterfall, the artifacts go away.

It's still an open question as to why the data-a mode has a steep drop-off
at 400Hz when the PBT settings on the rig would seem to indicate otherwise,
and the same drop-off isn't there in USB mode.

I see searching on "400 Hz" that GM4JJJ had the same question here on the
last back in July 2015, but never really got an answer.  I basically have
the same question as this one:
https://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@.../msg183837.html

  Nick


On 2 January 2017 at 12:06, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'm seeing some unexpected audio artifacts when using DATA A mode with the
> latest production firmware on my KX3, on all bands.  This is something I
> observe when the PBT BW is set all the way wide (4KHz) and FC is centered.
>
> In DATA mode, there's an audio drop-off between 200 and 325 Hz, with an
> almost completely dead audio "hole" between 250 and 300 Hz.  Then there's
> some additional noise between 350 and 500 Hz.
>
> If I switch to USB mode (with no EQ or audio effects applied, naturally),
> all of these artifacts go away, and it's perfectly smooth across the
> spectrum.  No drop-off, no noise.
>
> Pictures of the waterfalls for comparison here: http://imgur.com/a/AjHu4
>
> Am I doing something wrong, or is there something I should check?  I've
> taken the usual steps, but it's plausible I've missed something.
>
> ​  Nick​
>
> --
> *N6OL*
> Saying something doesn't make it true.  Belief in something doesn't make
> it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not
> worth supporting.
>



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real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not
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Re: Audio artifacts in DATA A mode with KX3

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Nick,

Thank you for bringing this up.

I never did get a satisfactory explanation, I contacted support too but that didn't get me anywhere either, I don't think they understood my question, which is quite simple really, why can't we get the same bandwidth in Data mode as in SSB mode? I think it's a simple oversight, but nobody seemed interested in acknowledging it or fixing it.


73 from David GM4JJJ

> On 2 Jan 2017, at 23:54, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Jörg in the Elecraft KX3 group on Facebook had an interesting observation:
> with WJST's waterfall, if the "flatten" mode is on, it produces some
> unusual artifacts in the presence of sharp spectrum drop-offs, and indeed
> if I turn off the "flatten" feature and manually set the zero point for the
> waterfall, the artifacts go away.
>
> It's still an open question as to why the data-a mode has a steep drop-off
> at 400Hz when the PBT settings on the rig would seem to indicate otherwise,
> and the same drop-off isn't there in USB mode.
>
> I see searching on "400 Hz" that GM4JJJ had the same question here on the
> last back in July 2015, but never really got an answer.  I basically have
> the same question as this one:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@.../msg183837.html
>
>   Nick
>
>
>> On 2 January 2017 at 12:06, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I'm seeing some unexpected audio artifacts when using DATA A mode with the
>> latest production firmware on my KX3, on all bands.  This is something I
>> observe when the PBT BW is set all the way wide (4KHz) and FC is centered.
>>
>> In DATA mode, there's an audio drop-off between 200 and 325 Hz, with an
>> almost completely dead audio "hole" between 250 and 300 Hz.  Then there's
>> some additional noise between 350 and 500 Hz.
>>
>> If I switch to USB mode (with no EQ or audio effects applied, naturally),
>> all of these artifacts go away, and it's perfectly smooth across the
>> spectrum.  No drop-off, no noise.
>>
>> Pictures of the waterfalls for comparison here: http://imgur.com/a/AjHu4
>>
>> Am I doing something wrong, or is there something I should check?  I've
>> taken the usual steps, but it's plausible I've missed something.
>>
>> ​   Nick​
>>
>> --
>> *N6OL*
>> Saying something doesn't make it true.  Belief in something doesn't make
>> it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not
>> worth supporting.
>>
>
>
>
> --
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> real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not
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Re: Audio artifacts in DATA A mode with KX3

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Harry,

This isn't a switch it on and off again problem I am afraid. It is simply that the KX3 Data Mode is restricted in bandwidth at the low end, unlike the SSB mode on the same radio. Bizarre but true.

73 from David GM4JJJ

> On 3 Jan 2017, at 00:00, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Back when I was playing with SDR's I would notice the same thing (Deep nulls)
> Sometimes resetting the software (or turning the rig on and off again) would cure it.
>
> Something to try
>
>
>
>
>      From: Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]>
> To: elecraft <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 6:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Audio artifacts in DATA A mode with KX3
>
> Jörg in the Elecraft KX3 group on Facebook had an interesting observation:
> with WJST's waterfall, if the "flatten" mode is on, it produces some
> unusual artifacts in the presence of sharp spectrum drop-offs, and indeed
> if I turn off the "flatten" feature and manually set the zero point for the
> waterfall, the artifacts go away.
>
> It's still an open question as to why the data-a mode has a steep drop-off
> at 400Hz when the PBT settings on the rig would seem to indicate otherwise,
> and the same drop-off isn't there in USB mode.
>
> I see searching on "400 Hz" that GM4JJJ had the same question here on the
> last back in July 2015, but never really got an answer.  I basically have
> the same question as this one:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@.../msg183837.html
>
>   Nick
>
>
>> On 2 January 2017 at 12:06, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I'm seeing some unexpected audio artifacts when using DATA A mode with the
>> latest production firmware on my KX3, on all bands.  This is something I
>> observe when the PBT BW is set all the way wide (4KHz) and FC is centered.
>>
>> In DATA mode, there's an audio drop-off between 200 and 325 Hz, with an
>> almost completely dead audio "hole" between 250 and 300 Hz.  Then there's
>> some additional noise between 350 and 500 Hz.
>>
>> If I switch to USB mode (with no EQ or audio effects applied, naturally),
>> all of these artifacts go away, and it's perfectly smooth across the
>> spectrum.  No drop-off, no noise.
>>
>> Pictures of the waterfalls for comparison here: http://imgur.com/a/AjHu4
>>
>> Am I doing something wrong, or is there something I should check?  I've
>> taken the usual steps, but it's plausible I've missed something.
>>
>> ​  Nick​
>>
>> --
>> *N6OL*
>> Saying something doesn't make it true.  Belief in something doesn't make
>> it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not
>> worth supporting.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *N6OL*
> Saying something doesn't make it true.  Belief in something doesn't make it
> real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not
> worth supporting.
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Re: Audio artifacts in DATA A mode with KX3

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It was worth a shot, l permanently loaned my kx3 to my son , else I'd test it here.


-------- Original message --------
From: David Anderson <[hidden email]>
Date: 2017-01-03  3:20 AM  (GMT-05:00)
To: Harry Yingst <[hidden email]>
Cc: Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]>, elecraft <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Audio artifacts in DATA A mode with KX3

Harry,

This isn't a switch it on and off again problem I am afraid. It is simply that the KX3 Data Mode is restricted in bandwidth at the low end, unlike the SSB mode on the same radio. Bizarre but true.

73 from David GM4JJJ

> On 3 Jan 2017, at 00:00, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Back when I was playing with SDR's I would notice the same thing (Deep nulls)
> Sometimes resetting the software (or turning the rig on and off again) would cure it.
>
> Something to try
>
>
>
>
>      From: Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]>
> To: elecraft <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 6:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Audio artifacts in DATA A mode with KX3
>
> Jörg in the Elecraft KX3 group on Facebook had an interesting observation:
> with WJST's waterfall, if the "flatten" mode is on, it produces some
> unusual artifacts in the presence of sharp spectrum drop-offs, and indeed
> if I turn off the "flatten" feature and manually set the zero point for the
> waterfall, the artifacts go away.
>
> It's still an open question as to why the data-a mode has a steep drop-off
> at 400Hz when the PBT settings on the rig would seem to indicate otherwise,
> and the same drop-off isn't there in USB mode.
>
> I see searching on "400 Hz" that GM4JJJ had the same question here on the
> last back in July 2015, but never really got an answer.  I basically have
> the same question as this one:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@.../msg183837.html
>
>   Nick
>
>
>> On 2 January 2017 at 12:06, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I'm seeing some unexpected audio artifacts when using DATA A mode with the
>> latest production firmware on my KX3, on all bands.  This is something I
>> observe when the PBT BW is set all the way wide (4KHz) and FC is centered.
>>
>> In DATA mode, there's an audio drop-off between 200 and 325 Hz, with an
>> almost completely dead audio "hole" between 250 and 300 Hz.  Then there's
>> some additional noise between 350 and 500 Hz.
>>
>> If I switch to USB mode (with no EQ or audio effects applied, naturally),
>> all of these artifacts go away, and it's perfectly smooth across the
>> spectrum.  No drop-off, no noise.
>>
>> Pictures of the waterfalls for comparison here: http://imgur.com/a/AjHu4
>>
>> Am I doing something wrong, or is there something I should check?  I've
>> taken the usual steps, but it's plausible I've missed something.
>>
>> ​  Nick​
>>
>> --
>> *N6OL*
>> Saying something doesn't make it true.  Belief in something doesn't make
>> it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not
>> worth supporting.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *N6OL*
> Saying something doesn't make it true.  Belief in something doesn't make it
> real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not
> worth supporting.
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Re: Audio artifacts in DATA A mode with KX3

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This is on the KX3 firmware list. I'll move it up a notch.

Wayne
N6KR


On Jan 3, 2017, at 12:16 AM, David Anderson via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Nick,
>
> Thank you for bringing this up.
>
> I never did get a satisfactory explanation, I contacted support too but that didn't get me anywhere either, I don't think they understood my question, which is quite simple really, why can't we get the same bandwidth in Data mode as in SSB mode? I think it's a simple oversight, but nobody seemed interested in acknowledging it or fixing it.
>
>
> 73 from David GM4JJJ
>
>> On 2 Jan 2017, at 23:54, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Jörg in the Elecraft KX3 group on Facebook had an interesting observation:
>> with WJST's waterfall, if the "flatten" mode is on, it produces some
>> unusual artifacts in the presence of sharp spectrum drop-offs, and indeed
>> if I turn off the "flatten" feature and manually set the zero point for the
>> waterfall, the artifacts go away.
>>
>> It's still an open question as to why the data-a mode has a steep drop-off
>> at 400Hz when the PBT settings on the rig would seem to indicate otherwise,
>> and the same drop-off isn't there in USB mode.
>>
>> I see searching on "400 Hz" that GM4JJJ had the same question here on the
>> last back in July 2015, but never really got an answer.  I basically have
>> the same question as this one:
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@.../msg183837.html
>>
>>  Nick
>>
>>
>>> On 2 January 2017 at 12:06, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm seeing some unexpected audio artifacts when using DATA A mode with the
>>> latest production firmware on my KX3, on all bands.  This is something I
>>> observe when the PBT BW is set all the way wide (4KHz) and FC is centered.
>>>
>>> In DATA mode, there's an audio drop-off between 200 and 325 Hz, with an
>>> almost completely dead audio "hole" between 250 and 300 Hz.  Then there's
>>> some additional noise between 350 and 500 Hz.
>>>
>>> If I switch to USB mode (with no EQ or audio effects applied, naturally),
>>> all of these artifacts go away, and it's perfectly smooth across the
>>> spectrum.  No drop-off, no noise.
>>>
>>> Pictures of the waterfalls for comparison here: http://imgur.com/a/AjHu4
>>>
>>> Am I doing something wrong, or is there something I should check?  I've
>>> taken the usual steps, but it's plausible I've missed something.
>>>
>>> ​   Nick​
>>>
>>> --
>>> *N6OL*
>>> Saying something doesn't make it true.  Belief in something doesn't make
>>> it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not
>>> worth supporting.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Saying something doesn't make it true.  Belief in something doesn't make it
>> real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not
>> worth supporting.
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Re: Audio artifacts in DATA A mode with KX3

Nicklas Johnson
Thank you, Wayne!  At least we know we're not crazy :-)

   Nick / N6OL

On 3 January 2017 at 13:45, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:

> This is on the KX3 firmware list. I'll move it up a notch.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2017, at 12:16 AM, David Anderson via Elecraft <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Nick,
> >
> > Thank you for bringing this up.
> >
> > I never did get a satisfactory explanation, I contacted support too but
> that didn't get me anywhere either, I don't think they understood my
> question, which is quite simple really, why can't we get the same bandwidth
> in Data mode as in SSB mode? I think it's a simple oversight, but nobody
> seemed interested in acknowledging it or fixing it.
> >
> >
> > 73 from David GM4JJJ
> >
> >> On 2 Jan 2017, at 23:54, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Jörg in the Elecraft KX3 group on Facebook had an interesting
> observation:
> >> with WJST's waterfall, if the "flatten" mode is on, it produces some
> >> unusual artifacts in the presence of sharp spectrum drop-offs, and
> indeed
> >> if I turn off the "flatten" feature and manually set the zero point for
> the
> >> waterfall, the artifacts go away.
> >>
> >> It's still an open question as to why the data-a mode has a steep
> drop-off
> >> at 400Hz when the PBT settings on the rig would seem to indicate
> otherwise,
> >> and the same drop-off isn't there in USB mode.
> >>
> >> I see searching on "400 Hz" that GM4JJJ had the same question here on
> the
> >> last back in July 2015, but never really got an answer.  I basically
> have
> >> the same question as this one:
> >> https://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@.../msg183837.html
> >>
> >>  Nick
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 2 January 2017 at 12:06, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm seeing some unexpected audio artifacts when using DATA A mode with
> the
> >>> latest production firmware on my KX3, on all bands.  This is something
> I
> >>> observe when the PBT BW is set all the way wide (4KHz) and FC is
> centered.
> >>>
> >>> In DATA mode, there's an audio drop-off between 200 and 325 Hz, with an
> >>> almost completely dead audio "hole" between 250 and 300 Hz.  Then
> there's
> >>> some additional noise between 350 and 500 Hz.
> >>>
> >>> If I switch to USB mode (with no EQ or audio effects applied,
> naturally),
> >>> all of these artifacts go away, and it's perfectly smooth across the
> >>> spectrum.  No drop-off, no noise.
> >>>
> >>> Pictures of the waterfalls for comparison here:
> http://imgur.com/a/AjHu4
> >>>
> >>> Am I doing something wrong, or is there something I should check?  I've
> >>> taken the usual steps, but it's plausible I've missed something.
> >>>
> >>> ​   Nick​
> >>>
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Re: Audio artifacts in DATA A mode with KX3

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73 from David GM4JJJ

> On 3 Jan 2017, at 21:46, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Thank you, Wayne!  At least we know we're not crazy :-)
>
>    Nick / N6OL
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>> On 3 January 2017 at 13:45, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> This is on the KX3 firmware list. I'll move it up a notch.
>>
>> Wayne
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>> On Jan 3, 2017, at 12:16 AM, David Anderson via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> > Nick,
>> >
>> > Thank you for bringing this up.
>> >
>> > I never did get a satisfactory explanation, I contacted support too but that didn't get me anywhere either, I don't think they understood my question, which is quite simple really, why can't we get the same bandwidth in Data mode as in SSB mode? I think it's a simple oversight, but nobody seemed interested in acknowledging it or fixing it.
>> >
>> >
>> > 73 from David GM4JJJ
>> >
>> >> On 2 Jan 2017, at 23:54, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Jörg in the Elecraft KX3 group on Facebook had an interesting observation:
>> >> with WJST's waterfall, if the "flatten" mode is on, it produces some
>> >> unusual artifacts in the presence of sharp spectrum drop-offs, and indeed
>> >> if I turn off the "flatten" feature and manually set the zero point for the
>> >> waterfall, the artifacts go away.
>> >>
>> >> It's still an open question as to why the data-a mode has a steep drop-off
>> >> at 400Hz when the PBT settings on the rig would seem to indicate otherwise,
>> >> and the same drop-off isn't there in USB mode.
>> >>
>> >> I see searching on "400 Hz" that GM4JJJ had the same question here on the
>> >> last back in July 2015, but never really got an answer.  I basically have
>> >> the same question as this one:
>> >> https://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@.../msg183837.html
>> >>
>> >>  Nick
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On 2 January 2017 at 12:06, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm seeing some unexpected audio artifacts when using DATA A mode with the
>> >>> latest production firmware on my KX3, on all bands.  This is something I
>> >>> observe when the PBT BW is set all the way wide (4KHz) and FC is centered.
>> >>>
>> >>> In DATA mode, there's an audio drop-off between 200 and 325 Hz, with an
>> >>> almost completely dead audio "hole" between 250 and 300 Hz.  Then there's
>> >>> some additional noise between 350 and 500 Hz.
>> >>>
>> >>> If I switch to USB mode (with no EQ or audio effects applied, naturally),
>> >>> all of these artifacts go away, and it's perfectly smooth across the
>> >>> spectrum.  No drop-off, no noise.
>> >>>
>> >>> Pictures of the waterfalls for comparison here: http://imgur.com/a/AjHu4
>> >>>
>> >>> Am I doing something wrong, or is there something I should check?  I've
>> >>> taken the usual steps, but it's plausible I've missed something.
>> >>>
>> >>> ​   Nick​
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Re: Audio artifacts in DATA A mode with KX3

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I've noticed the same kind of issue at times, also.  I've never known to what to attribute it to.  To be far, it's not just Elecraft rigs.  I think it may be software glitches rather than transceiver problems.  

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Re: Audio artifacts in DATA A mode with KX3

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Nick,

Help me here.... I don't see any connection.  You could still be crazy and
experiencing the Audio Artifacts as well. :)

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